It's the Holidays - STOP PICKING UP WOMEN

Hey guys:

I meant to type this up before the holidays, but was busy doing... holiday things. However, I have been keeping up with the posts on this site, and I've seen a lot of guys failing to get dates as of late with some of the newer girls they've met.

I live in Los Angeles, where studios spend the majority of the year filming movies and TV shows. I do background work on some of these things, and tend to get casted for a lot of stuff during the oh so busy TV season. However, all of that work goes away for 2 weeks, between December 23 and January 3. They call this time the "hiatus period" and the reason for it is simple: it's the holidays, and no one - not even the money making studios in Hollywood - want to work. They don't want to focus on any new projects, work on any current projects, or have to do any casting or searching for new people. All work gets put on hold so they can give their creative brains a bit of time to relax.

The dating world is the same way. During these two weeks of the year, people are trying to focus on the people already in their lives. They don't want to have to focus on getting to know new people, setting up dates or trying to impress a potentiial new suitor.

For you guys, if you've been trying to ask girls out lately and they all seem extra flakey, it might not necessarily be because they're not interested. Rather, it's because they don't want to focus any more energy this year on getting to know a new person. Dating can be a very tiring activity, and at the end of the year the last thing most people want to do is add dating stress to their lives - they just want to RELAX.

Now, when January hits it's a whole different story. Between New Year's resolutions and the search for a Valentine's day date, girls will be back to actively searching for a new beau. Until that time, thoguh, you're wasting your time asking new girls out on dates. If you just met them and they like you or are thinking of going out with you, they will still feel that way AFTER the holidays. However, if you're constantly bugging them during this two week period or insisting they go out with you during this break period, you are going to LOSE them. Show a little patience and wait til January 2 to hit these girls up - trust me, you will get better results that way.

Hope this helps!

Well winter time is when women are with their mates

And spring and summer is when women break up with them

Winter for a DJ should be for breaking away for your mate,and getting ready for new mates in the new year

I agree with Harry, jan and feb are the most you go in crunch time, women will be super clingy and desperate around that time if they are single, so take advantage

but Harry is right begenning winter months like nov. and dec. are horrible months to campaign

Gonna have to disagree. Women are super needy during the holidays. Holidays give them time to look for a mate instead of focussing on work or school.

No problem, broski. Just staying at home playing video games, like a ****ing champ. Good vacation, no drama. :rockon:

Chamber36 said:

Gonna have to disagree. Women are super needy during the holidays. Holidays give them time to look for a mate instead of focussing on work or school.

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You'd think that would be the case, but no. Usually, for women that have been busy focuaing on school or work, holiday breaks are their time to focus on other things they may have been neglecting, whether its an at home project, spending time woth close family, home renovations, etc. Ironically, I have found that girls are MORE available during the school/work year since they need a happy distraction from all the work they're doing.

But hey, I'm only basing my advice on two things: 1. My personal experience, and 2. The various posts on here I keep reading about guys striking out with girls more frequently this time of year. The reality is, if you're not already in good with a girl prior to the holidays, you can TRY to meet new ones and take them out, but it's going to be much harder simply because there are people already in her life who want to take up her time - and, if she's been neglecting them due to school or work, they're going to get priority over you. And they should.

2 new numbers were given on monday, 1 new number on christmas, and guarantee lay setup for saturday all day(not from a new number but a girl I havent banged yet). Hoping to bang a different girl I still haven't on new years(i won't count the bj she gave me the night after thanksgiving). Also reinitiated contact over text with a girl I went on 1 date with 2 weeks ago and didnt call/text her after. At first she was acting mad, that changed soon and her last text was that she will be working from home the next 2 weeks, hmmm movie at her place? Had a couple of dates last week as well.

Espi said:

Man I respectfully disagree. Never stop sarging for women.

A guy has absolutely NOTHING to lose asking a chick out during holidays. If she's too tired or too involved or whatever other bullshiat excuse she comes up with, then why wouldn't she offer her number AFTER the holidays?

Discouraging people from sarging during the holidays is the same thing as recommending guys refrain from hitting on chicks wearing headphones. A key factor in adopting the DJ mindset is to let NOTHING stop him from going after what he wants.

I personally encourage guys to never stop sarging for women--I actually find the holidays an ideal time to pick up--I know this subject's already been discussed in this thread, but in my case it's true. NOBODY wants to be alone for the Holidays.

There are a million and one reasons NOT to approach woman, but I look at those reasons as a mere challenge, a test...if I can pick up women wearing headphones, or, sarge successfully during the holidays (which I have...and will continue doing so), then I know that I can pick them up any place or any time of the year. That's a good way to boost one's confidence.

No excuses!

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I agree 100%. Let NOTHING stop you from going after what you want. Who cares if its the holidays? Who cares if its cold out? Who cares if she seems busy?

I like to look at it this way: If an opportunity is great.. people will take it. If someone comes up to you around the holidays and says: "I will pay you $100,000 to watch my dog for me on Christmas eve. But you have to say in the house." Are you really going to be like: "Duuhh.. I dunno.. I got family and stuff.." ?

If a woman is single and lonely she will welcome the attention. Some women are living miles away from family and are alone in a new city for school or work. These women have NO ONE because their friends are all with their families.

Doesn't matter if its Christmas, Ground hog day, the premier of Sex In The City 5, or whatever the f*ck. If you see a woman you want to meet, you should approach her and close her.

Don't give yourself reasons NOT to try. That is beta male talk.

Hey Harry I know this off [/LIST]subject but I noticed you said you live in Los Angeles well I was planning (am) moving there in or around June for acting do they have lots of Indie films auditions or student areas to live or avoid and any other insight would be appreciated

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I believe the point Harry is going after is to, rather than go for a date in between the holiday period, to wait and ask the girl to get out with you after the holiday has passed by.

There's merit in that. He is not saying to pass on opportunities, but merely to sit on the numbers, keep it low-key, and get her out with you after New Years has passed.

Of course, I just, before reading this, set up something with a chick for tomorrow, but, meh. She had already given me her schedule and told me she was pretty free after Christmas.

I disagree with the OP. There are a lot of lonely women out here during the holidays with a lot of times on their hands. happy hunting fellas!

There are lonely women out there during the holidays, but I honestly don't think you can put a lot of value in closing the deal right at Christmas. Perhaps earlier in December may work when you have the time to actually arrange dates to build more rapport, but the week of Christmas? Chances are slim that you'll be able to make something new work. There's way too many external factors that will make the woman go 'cold' before you can warm her up again, unless she's REALLY into you.

But I have to agree, don't stop sarging on account of the holidays. Keep your skills up and maybe try working some new things into your routines since the women are pretty much disposable at this time of year.

@ Everybody, because there's a LOT to respond to here:

As a general rule, I like to give out advice that will put guys in ideal situations as it pertains to dealing with women so tne odds of them being successful are high. Bottom line, asking women out during the holidays will, more often than not, result in you NOT getting the results with them that you want.

For example: let's say you manage to get a date with a woman for Christmas Eve, and she actually shows up. That's great and all, but the next day is Christmas - she's not going to have all her focus on you because she's thinking about the stuff she's doing for the holidays the next day and what she may still need to prepare. Or, what about that girl who agrees to a date a couple days after Christmas? You set up a lunch date and she sounds excited to go... but then, at the last minute, she finds out about a post-Christmas family get together happening at her 89 year old Grandma's house - and, seeing how old she is, she feels its important to go because she might not live much friends, so she cancels on you.

Or what about the athiest girl who doesn't celebrate Christmas - surely she would be available for a date during the holiday break, right? Sure, she very well could be! And you might go out with her, have a GREAT time, and feel like you made a connection! At that point, you might invite her to hang out with you for New Year's eve... only to hear from her: "oooh, sorry, I already made plans with some of my friends." And now you're feeling all butt hurt, wondering why she can't invite you to join them. Her reason? Because she JUST met you, and even though she may have had ONE good date with you, you don't have enough time built in with her to go to holiday events as her date or to be around her friends.

In any case, going out with a chick during this time isn't ideal. Yes, you can do it, but it's not going to allow you to have the maximun positive effect you're looking for. There is too much other stuff going on in her life during this time, and you won't be made as much of a priority as you will be after New Year's Day, when girls are more willing to try out new things, including dating YOU and giving you more of a chance. Remember, I'm an odds maker: the odds of you being successful with a new girl is better if you wait til after the holidays, people!

Why would you invite a chick to hang out on NYE? NYE is a time where you go to a house party or a club and bring a drunk girl back to your crib afterwards. Save the dates for after the new years. January is a good time for seasoned players to get their feast on.. Women are looking to get snatched up for Feb 14th Vagina day and will give up the goods if they think it will lead to a romantic dinner on that day. Happy Hunting Boys!

Harry Wilmington said:

For example: let's say you manage to get a date with a woman for Christmas Eve, and she actually shows up. That's great and all, but the next day is Christmas - she's not going to have all her focus on you because she's thinking about the stuff she's doing for the holidays the next day and what she may still need to prepare. Or, what about that girl who agrees to a date a couple days after Christmas? You set up a lunch date and she sounds excited to go... but then, at the last minute, she finds out about a post-Christmas family get together happening at her 89 year old Grandma's house - and, seeing how old she is, she feels its important to go because she might not live much friends, so she cancels on you.

Or what about the athiest girl who doesn't celebrate Christmas - surely she would be available for a date during the holiday break, right? Sure, she very well could be! And you might go out with her, have a GREAT time, and feel like you made a connection! At that point, you might invite her to hang out with you for New Year's eve... only to hear from her: "oooh, sorry, I already made plans with some of my friends." And now you're feeling all butt hurt, wondering why she can't invite you to join them. Her reason? Because she JUST met you, and even though she may have had ONE good date with you, you don't have enough time built in with her to go to holiday events as her date or to be around her friends.

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Harry my man you could be right, but these excuses could be made by a girl at any time, not just Christmas. Her friend could have a going away party at the last minute in Feb when you feel like you've made a connection, there could be too much going on in her life in April with her best friends wedding in Hawaii. Her boyfriend could be coming back in town in June. Any excuse could be made at any time any place, Christmas is just one that everyone knows about and can use.

Also, if she doesn't give a priority because her sisters boyfriend is in town on Dec 22, she's already doesn't care about you and is getting some action elsewhere. As Rollo said, a girl who wants to be with you will find a way to want to be with you. If she doesn't because of the holidays, she is getting laid nicely elsewhere.

I feel like its too cold for me to be outside trying to pick up new women but i did get a message back from ocupid from one. If the opportunity presents itself, i'll take it

this is kind of true.... but after xmas the cheating and dumping goes into full swing an the hos start hoping heavy

Chamber36 said:

Gonna have to disagree. Women are super needy during the holidays. Holidays give them time to look for a mate instead of focussing on work or school.

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The only times I've chicks I know getting into relationships during the holidays it was with men they already knew and already went out with a few times before. A chick's not likely to bring some dude she only met a week or two ago to meet the family at Christmas dinner.

I agree with Harry. He's just saying don't have high expectations around this time of year. The ladies are spread a little thin with everything that's going on, especially as pertains to family.

I have noticed that online dating site activity increases during every holiday except Christmas and New Year's. I also find women are less prone to get back to me in a timely manner during this holiday, whereas even on Thanksgiving they can't wait to talk to me.

I think Harry's saying don't put a lot of stock into how women behave this time of year. It's definitely downtime for women now right before the big ramp-up.

Interestingly, we here at SS discussed a few years ago that in December there is a huge spike in female-initiated breakups.

'Tis the season to be wary...

Went to the mall and sarged today in direct protest of this sh1tty thread. Got one real solid #

sageproduct said:

Went to the mall and sarged today in direct protest of this sh1tty thread. Got one real solid #

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Good.

And its only going to get easier now. V-day is coming up. Went to a party last night and got a few numbers. Approached another girl today outside my friends apartment complex. She was pretty friendly and had amazing tits.

Women who want to get pounded don't give a sh!t about the date on the calender.