I believe the 10% rule must be revised

I'm referring to the belief that 10% of the men gets most of the chick while leaving the others without.

I believe even those in that 10% dont have it that easy anymore and I'm referring to the particular cultural/psychological/media phenomenon for which girls get much more aroused and turned on from exercising power and rejecting men than actually enjoy them.

I lost the count of how many hot guys (tall, muscular,blonde,handsome face etc) which are used as toys from women, it seems like that the more they can make a man believe or being invested and the more they get satifaction from rejecting him or play with him as a toy.

Its not longer the faking interest to suggest the approach and then reject, its more like keep going untill the guy really start to develop a belieft and feelings.

I guess that there is something overwriting natural social interaction, not sure if are the infite options for women or the influence of the sex and the city culture which push most of them to consider men as soulless,brainless pigs.

It seems girls are on a girls night out 24/7 even alone.

Observing this from almost a year actually, in many place of western europe.

nooo of course the 10% rule shouldn't be changed, i mean all hot women only end up dating tall, good looking medical students who are rich and give lots of their time to the poor. I mean when's the last time you saw a hot girl with a tattoo covered ex-prison inmate or a douchebag? Like never!

The fact that men are being pussified more and more in this country doesn't help the cause either. Gotta get like those old school eastern Euro Nico Bellic dudes where their HBs grow on trees and not give 2 ṣhits about them, their even dumber moms, their cats, friends or pills she's on.

Time to buy some wife beaters and track suits, boys lol.

Just because 10% of men get MOST of the azz doesn't mean its easy for them to KEEP that azz

the GETTING is in the looks

the KEEPING is in the money and status

combine those two elements and that is not 10% of men but 0.10% of men

And far as 'women' does the word ladylike even exist anymore :crackup:

nope...women aspire to be nothing more than common gutter cvm slvts...so we treat them as such

Who Dares Win said:

I'm referring to the belief that 10% of the men gets most of the chick while leaving the others without.

I believe even those in that 10% dont have it that easy anymore and I'm referring to the particular cultural/psychological/media phenomenon for which girls get much more aroused and turned on from exercising power and rejecting men than actually enjoy them.

I lost the count of how many hot guys (tall, muscular,blonde,handsome face etc) which are used as toys from women, it seems like that the more they can make a man believe or being invested and the more they get satifaction from rejecting him or play with him as a toy.

Its not longer the faking interest to suggest the approach and then reject, its more like keep going untill the guy really start to develop a belieft and feelings.

I guess that there is something overwriting natural social interaction, not sure if are the infite options for women or the influence of the sex and the city culture which push most of them to consider men as soulless,brainless pigs.

It seems girls are on a girls night out 24/7 even alone.

Observing this from almost a year actually, in many place of western europe.

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women get rejected too , and they try to revenge by rejecting other men , but there are a lot of women still want to have sex .
rejecting a good looking guy is a big win to a woman to boost her ego , but that doesnt mean all of them are like that .
some of them are men haters and they enjoy putting me down in every way they can

Generally women even warpig HB1s to HB5s will only fukk a L6+ male. Of course men who are L7-10 will get a lot more women and better looking women. Women who are HB6+ will more willingly hook up with a guy who is only 1-2 points better looking or even looks matched. As will women pair with a guy only 1 to 2 points better or even looks matched for a relationship if the male is at least L6.

The problem is most women are really only sub 6's and there are a lot of men who are in shape and work hard to be over L6. So even among men who are L6-10 there is a lot of competiton especially for the fairly rare HB6+ females.

Don't let that confuse you and think that a man's looks and apearance doesn't matter greatly or that the top 20% or so of men don't get the majority of hook ups.

I played around with a spreadsheet for a few minutes to generate some rough figures.

Let's say that half of all women are HB0, a quarter are HB1, an eighth are HB2, and so on. That's 1.76 billion HB0s, 882 million HB1s, and on to 1.7 million HB10s. My experience is that greater beauty is more rare, so this seems to make sense as a rough approximation.

Or count it the other way: 1.7 million HB10s, 3.4 million HB9s, 6.9 million HB8s, and so on.

Even without the absolute numbers, just looking at the ratio of HB10s to the rest of women, it's a no-brainer. For every HB10 there are 2,046 less-attractive women. OK. So let's crunch the numbers on down the scale.

For every HB9+ there are 681 less-attractive women.
For every HB8+ there are 291 lesser.
For every HB7+ there are 135 lesser.
For every HB6+ there are 65 lesser.
For every HB5+ there are 31 lesser.
For every HB4+ there are 15 lesser.
For every HB3+ there are 7 lesser.
For every HB2+ there are 3 lesser.
For every HB1+ there is one less-attractive woman, which is approximately the same as the original premise.

A startling pattern emerges. There are NOT as many HB1-to-5s as HB6-to-10s. Half of women are NOT in the upper half of the rating system. To the contrary: less than 2% are HB6 and higher. And, according to our original premise, there are as many HB6s as there are HB7+. If you go after only HB6+, 50% of the women you bag will be bare-minimum HB6. This will be true for whatever minimum you set: half the women you choose will barely meet your minimum standards.

An average-looking HB4 is in the upper 8% of feminine beauty. Even a middle-aged HB2 warpig is in the upper 25% of attractiveness.

Maybe it's overstating the rarity of beauty to say that there are only half as many women for every +1 in the scale. Maybe the correct ratio is not as steep. But I think it is. Men tend to ignore old women and children. We notice the ****tail waitress, but don't even think about the hag in the back running the dishwasher.

Regardless of the actual ratio, women compete with other women. Everything else aside, an HB1 is more attractive and more rare than an HB0. Understanding female entitlement in a hypergamous society could be as simple as crunching the numbers. The horrible fat c0ck carouser sure looks ugly to you, and there are hundreds of millions of women as ugly, but she beats out half the women. She made the upper half. That's all that matters to her.

I've never believed this statistic, it's utter nonsense.

There's 7 billion people in this world, are you seriously telling me that only 10% of men have created these 7 billion lives?

perseverance said:

I've never believed this statistic, it's utter nonsense.

There's 7 billion people in this world, are you seriously telling me that only 10% of men have created these 7 billion lives?

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It's reported that only 40% of men reproduce while 80% of women do. This would jive with the idea that women are only reproducing with L6+ males.

But where the 10% or 20% of men get all the women rule of thumb refers to is that the top looking 20% men get most all of the hook ups with women that have any attractiveness above the HB5 level. The remaining 80% or so of men are fighting tooth and nail for sub HB5s.

If a society doesn't require marriages with pregnancies, monogamy and pairing off one-to-one, then a minority of men can sexually monopolize multiple women. And conceivably even 5-10% of men could impregnate virtually all women. If you had a harem of 10-20 women you could impregnate all of them. It's just a question of how hypergamous women want to be and how hypergamous society allows them to be.

It all sounds like a Giant Rotschild Lizard Conspiracy to me.

Pretty close Brad .

Maybe just delete the word "skinny."

Some hot chicks F (and date) fat douchbags only because he's big.

good point mike32..

All hot women invariably desire and tend to hook up with top 10 percenters, but 90% of the time they actually end up dating douchebags.

Well done!

Does anyone else have any more input/suggestions for change before we pass this bill?

bradd80 said:

ok fellas, arguments regarding statistics aside, here is how i propose the new 10% rule be worded:

All hot women invariably desire and tend to hook up with top 10 percenters, but 90% of the time they actually end up dating skinny douchebags.

How's this?

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It's cuz the skinny guys wear their skinny jeans, put gel in their hair, ride their mopeds to work as a barista and are otherwise feminized metrosexual fvcksticks. Times are a changin'.

Turns chicks on.

bradd80 said:

ok fellas, arguments regarding statistics aside, here is how i propose the new 10% rule be worded:

All hot women invariably desire and tend to hook up with top 10 percenters, but 90% of the time they actually end up dating skinny douchebags.

How's this?

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I agree with the concept but disagree on the target, its not skinny douchebags, actually I observe that they toy around with guys they can control, somekind of upper orbiter which clean their mess and fix their emotions and day planning.

Plenty of girls I saw dragging around guys which was obvious they didnt craved but provided enterteinment and validation plus drinks and stuff.
All of this while doing those tricks to hot guys and such...I know it sounds messy but Im sure you got the point.

Imagine a guy who has low consideration for women, so he has a good nurturing girl around for his human needs while at the club approach hot girls only to fake the kiss and leaving them thereafter.

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ok cool the bill has been amended to read douchebags instead of just skinny douchebags. Who Dares, are we not in agreement that most hot women WANT a top ten percenter, but they invariably end up actually dating total scumbags?

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Yes 100%

most chickz do end up with less that optimal dudes

...but here is the thing to consider

....those women usually have nothing but open contempt for those less than optimal dudes (the type of contempt that allows the women to let their men rot in prison without a care)

...oh they will still use those lesser dudes to provide houses, mortgages, and children but those women have nothing but hatred for the lesser man she believed she settled for...even if she is a 3 and he is a 6....the 3 warpig still wants a 9 and is deeply pissed at her 6 dude who is probably clueless about her state of mind.

..and that is the thing most men should be wary of.

if your woman is into you as a backup or fallback dude and not truly in lust with you....you are in a real uphill battle...your woman is openly using you and you will find little happiness....but sadly most men's inherent arrogance and false pride doesn't allow them to see themselves as any less than a 10% man even if they are in the 80% brackett.

5string said:

It's cuz the skinny guys wear their skinny jeans, put gel in their hair, ride their mopeds to work as a barista and are otherwise feminized metrosexual fvcksticks. Times are a changin'.

Turns chicks on.

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Exactly. Ƒuck that! Oh the many times I've wanted to pull up their skinny, saggy jeans with a swift vertical kick of the ole Timberlands!

I see those skinny barista type bastards everywhere around me.

All they do is to be security blankets for the HB9's around them. There's a

reason women invented the LJBF concept.

Women are still women and they still want men.

Brad is spot on.

5string said:

It's cuz the skinny guys wear their skinny jeans, put gel in their hair, ride their mopeds to work as a barista and are otherwise feminized metrosexual fvcksticks. Times are a changin'.

Turns chicks on.

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My theory on this is women are primarily attracting to males with a good looking face (and hair) who are not fat and look youthful.

Now throw in the fact that women are attracted to what ever the media and public opinion says is popular, so a Justin Bieber look-a-like clone becomes attractive to most women.

It's really all about the face and appearance, and personality is really just being a media caricature.

I imagine if the media promoted an older, masculine rugged looking man as desirable, that would be the next hot comodity.

The rule sounds right, but the implications are ghastly.

I ran some numbers about men. Let's say there's a MB scale for men. Let's further say that male beauty isn't quite as rare as female. Instead of 1/2 as many for every +1 on the scale, let's use 1/1.9 (about 53%).

Guess what? There's 2,731,545 MB10s to only 1,702,511 HB10s (using world male and female totals according to the US Census Dept.). That's a 60% surplus of men at the same level!

9+ . . . 55% surplus of men
8+ . . . 49% surplus of men
7+ . . . 43% surplus of men
6+ . . . 37% surplus of men
5+ . . . 30% surplus of men
4+ . . . 24% surplus of men
3+ . . . 18% surplus of men
2+ . . . 12% surplus of men
1+ . . . 7% surplus of men

And the numbers are downright depressing if we assume that male beauty is even less rare. Adjusting the ratio from 1.9 to 1.8 gives us:

9+ . . . 141% surplus of men
8+ . . . 123% surplus of men
7+ . . . 105% surplus of men
6+ . . . 87% surplus of men
5+ . . . 69% surplus of men
4+ . . . 53% surplus of men
3+ . . . 38% surplus of men
2+ . . . 25% surplus of men
1+ . . . 13% surplus of men

Men age 27 and on are outnumbered by women who are 10 years younger. So mature men should be the prize. However, we live in a society of cheap hookups determined by superficial beauty. Good-looking men are in excess.

A large number of men must fvck women less attractive than themselves. It's often noted that women see themselves as worthy of men +2 compared to themselves. I ran the numbers and found that a male 1/1.5 ratio, with men going after women -2, gave these results:

MB10 with HB 8+ . . . . 73% surplus of men
MB 9+ with HB 7+ . . 102% surplus of men
MB 8+ with HB 6+ . . . 86% surplus of men
MB 7+ with HB 5+ . . . 56% surplus of men
MB 6+ with HB 4+ . . . 26% surplus of men
MB 5+ with HB 3+ . . . . 1% surplus of women
MB 4+ with HB 2+ . . . 31% surplus of women
MB 3+ with HB 1+ . . . 71% surplus of women
MB 2+ with any . . . . 125% surplus of women

The tide turns at HB3. Just when women are getting old, ugly, fat, and desperate, the numbers turn against them as well.

While the actual numbers are probably different, and should be more accurately calculated to take into account age and local population numbers, the raw figures at least give us a model for discussion.

Why the hate for Skinny jeans? I wear them and I wouldn't consider myself 'feminine' or 'metrosexual'. I don't gel my hair or ride a moped.