Some chicks will like you and some won't. Shocking! I know.

Exactly.

I blame the pickup artists for brainwashing guys into thinking that they can get ANY girl with proper "chess moves" such as c&f, negs, push-pull, kino, and maybe some crazy routines thrown in.

Many posts talk about OBVIOUSLY low interest level. The guy doesn't want to hear that though. He wants some magic steps to turn things around and get her to drop the panties. Good luck with that.

Just accept she's not interested and move on.

Good post. Simple message and spot on. You will NOT get every woman you are attracted to, and if you think you can you are simply deluded.

Wait...but all you need to do is go to the gym and learn some "game" lmao.

I personally like the way I look (minus my hair thinning.) I have insecurities, but my looks aren't one of them. It used to get frustrating hearing the words "creepy" used to describe you just based on your face...but I personally take the opinion of the cute girl my type that made out with me last month more seriously than immature women who want to criticize random strangers that they've never talked to.

In fact, on pof, some girl called me "creepy looking" and said "I'm only telling you the truth man," I said, "No, you're telling me your personal opinion and assuming every other woman feels the same."

I personally don't understand why the guys on here deal with women that have low interest/no interest. I mean where's your dignity? Begging one girl out of millions that probably isn't that great to begin with to pay attention to you? I just don't get it.

Great advice!

There is so much advice out there that claims any man can get any woman if he just uses this routine, or that method, or act in this way to be more "alpha". Really, success with women is much more simple and straightforward than many guys think (having high self-confidence, using common sense, and gaining experience), but many guys have been convinced by the "seduction community" that you have to follow some specific set of rules to attract women, as if women are some strange extraterrestrial species that one needs to learn how to interact with.

Great Post!

Mmh good stuff here. Some alpha stuff here is legit though. You just need to build your self up. If you know watt I mean.

It's very basic and very obvious, but a good point that needs echoing.

I think too many guys come to forums like this or study PUA material expecting to learn some kind of enchantment spells to attract all women. They keep persisting with the same girls or get confused that it's not "working". But knowing that some girls will and some won't be into you can really help you move forward.

I used to be terrified of rejection because I always took it very personally. To me it suggested I wasn't good enough or something was wrong with me and would totally throw my confidence. I'd start thinking if one or two girls aren't into me, then no girl will be into me. But then I started playing the field, stopped getting hung up on each rejection, and I soon found that for every one girl who rejected me, there was another girl who was obsessed with me.

Good post Ninja.

this is a nice post. One which I (and more people on here maybe) should re-read a few times to get it to sink in!

I thought it was common knowledge around here that no man can be universally attractive. There's some women that don't like Brad Pitt, for example.

It should also be common knowledge that a woman can be either receptive, neutral, and non-receptive, and that there's NO point wasting time trying to change a female from non-receptive to neutral or receptive.

Many noobs come here on the premise that they can change a female's mind. That's Sisyphus work. It's another form of trying to qualify yourself to a female. A man has to qualify his girl to see if she is up to par to deal with him. I like a girl with a swift mouth-piece. Not a girl who has no game, or who likes to play games. I just want good conversation from a female, and a nice body.

Most guys need to think about what they want from a girl besides a vagina. If a guy's whole screening process consists of: "do you have a vagina? Good!", then he's not going to get anywhere. A man needs to set standards. And if has high standards(like me), he has to work on himself in order to get these high quality girls.

That's why I'm glad I came here. It's like failing with women forced me to look at the flaws of my personality and realise that I have to focus on my future entirely, if I plan on living the life I want to live, in the future.

Learning how to deal with women has also helped me deal with men, like my boss for example. So that's how a female can help bring out the best in a man. The female doesn't have to be in a man's vicinity for this to happen. That's why I only want to settle for an LTR with a female who believes in me.

If I want a female to believe in me, I have to believe in myself.

So there. I think that sums it up.

This is important because it's easy to think that if a girl doesn't like you, that she represents some type of ceiling.

My oneitis was 36 and had fertility issues, but she said I was too old for her (at 40). Then I met a 19 year old who is so fertile it's not funny, and she said I'm not too old (at 41).

This is a good post. The funny thing is, when you don't worry about rejection, you will actually become more desirable in their eyes.

It is tough though, because rejection feels like a loss. If you put a spin on it and tell yourself, "That wasn't the girl for me anyway, and now I know that." You can get some positive out of a negative situation.

And if she acts like a stuck up ***** when you ask for her number, you wouldn't want to hang out with that kind of person anyway.

A rejection isn't even a loss really, just look at it as a win that you even took a chance.

Master Blunt said:

A rejection isn't even a loss really, just look at it as a win that you even took a chance.

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This is a key point as well. What stings is when I decide not to "go for the close" (for whatever reason--no chemistry, feeling weak, etc.); when I ask for the number or date and don't get a positive answer, I don't feel so bad...because I asked for the sale. And there is victory in that.

A lot of guys these days (AFCs?) would rather play video games than take a chance on asking for a date, so the girl who turned you down may spend the next several months wondering why nobody else has asked her out. I have seen that first hand. It didn't change her feelings for the guy (me) that did ask, but whoever else she was waiting for never bothered. Yes, she's still single.

Brian Drake said:

A lot of guys these days (AFCs?) would rather play video games than take a chance on asking for a date, so the girl who turned you down may spend the next several months wondering why nobody else has asked her out. I have seen that first hand. It didn't change her feelings for the guy (me) that did ask, but whoever else she was waiting for never bothered. Yes, she's still single.

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That's another thing: when a girl has her sights set on one guy in particular it won't matter how much game you throw at her in the meantime as she won't be paying attention anyways. You might even have more of what she wants than the other dude but the timing is just off, it's not like chicks can't get oneitis as well.

I've often preached this myself.

Women can be universally attractive, because we are attracted to female affectations. They have painted faces, nail polish, clothing, all sorts of contrivances that enhance the pysical tmplate that most of us are attracted to.

Not so with men. They are much more attracted to our personalities. There is no real template. Some like "artsy" guys, some masuline, some metro, some blue collar, the list goes on.

Here's what's universally attractive in men:
Looks-wise, a sense of neatness and style. Show that you VALUE yourself.
Personality-wise, usually power and her sense that you are more valuable than she.

It's all about YOU knowing that you're the sh!t in her presence. If YOU know it, she will know it.

If some women don't like you, chances are that 90% of women out there will not like you as well. Just though I would add a touch of cynism.

PapiChulo said:

If some women don't like you, chances are that 90% of women out there will not like you as well. Just though I would add a touch of cynism.

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Your cynism is not required, thanks. That statement is false and contrary to everything that has been said on this thread.

Serg897 said:

Your cynism is not required, thanks. That statement is false and contrary to everything that has been said on this thread.

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Don't worry, the 10% that might like you are the fat ones, single moms, and the ones that think you are funny

This rings true, when you manage to meet a group of girls that you never met before. You're the same person to all of them. 3 of them liked me, but the one I was most into , didn't. She preferred my cousin.