I'm starting to get p$ssed

Those who read my last post about the girl I couldn't f-close will know what I"m talking about.

I'm just getting really pissed about this whole situation. I feel like the girl is running game on me better than I'm running game on her. She's lying to me. She tells me she doesn't fool around with guys she doesn't have a relationship with. That's obvious bullsh$t because we fooled around the first time we went out and she's got a crazy reputation.

We see each other more than I'd prefer given that we're on the dance team at my school. And so that in and of itself is making it hard for me to put space in between the 2 of us so that if she's actually attracted to me, she can miss me.

One of my fellow sosuaver's suggested I was playing the game too cleanly and needed to make a few mistakes to help shut down her anti-slut defense. I might not be explaining his suggestion correctly, but those who are confused can refer to the aforementioned thread. So she's sick (the b$tch made me sick too) and I decided to be all nice and buy her a get well flower. I also brought some of my cologne because she's been going around wearing one of my American Eagle Hoodies everywhere and sprayed it all over.

We made out after class on Monday. Skipped Tuesday because we both felt like crap. I wasn't supposed to see her today, but my buddy called me up and asked me to join him at this dance club tonight. She was there. And I read people pretty well, and she was colder tonight. Very slightly, but there was definitely a vibe change. I would put my arm around her and she acted distracted. It would take her a few moments to settle in. And then she'd walk away quickly. It was like she was only halfway passing IOI tests. And it's not like there's anything specifically I can point to that makes me think something is amiss, but I still feel that way, and I'm usually not wrong.

So I left. I didn't even kiss the girl goodbye. I gave my friend a big hug, shook hands with the other people I met, walked up behind her, put my arms around her and breathed down the side of her neck and smelled her hair for a second. And left. I did not kiss her. I also did not look back at her.

The guy I was with was my wing, and on my way out I texted him to call me on his way out and made sure not to mention the girl. I said something about him returning a flash drive to me (which he still needs to do). I guess she was very interested in the message exchange when she saw it was me. She kept taking his phone and looking through his messages (which I assumed she'd do) and that's why I made sure to say nothing about her. In fact, I feel like I should have said something about another girl.

My wing and her ended up bouncing to another bar and he said he's getting the feeling she's been in to this guy there for a long time, but nothing has been happening with that.

And I'm pissed. I'm legitimately pissed for a few reasons.

- I broke a big rule. You're not supposed to develop feelings or the target. And I have. It's especially bad with this girl because she's a ***** I will never be able to trust or take seriously. Why do I find myself so attracted to girls like this (if anyone can give me insight, I will be very happy with you). I am spinning other plates. But I have begun spinning them to greater priority and will be looking for new plates.

- I am a better guy than 99% of the guys out there. I have my sh$t together. I look great. Girls tell me that all the time. I'm in excellent shape. I have great body posture and carry myself well. I'm going to be a rich specialist surgeon. I have money. I dress well. I'm confident, and when I'm not, I can fake it very well. I'm an ex professional rock musician.

And I can't get in this girl's pants. It's not even about the girl. It's about her saying no. I f$cking hate the word no.

- The biggest reason I'm pissed is that I thought I was better at this than to let a broad like this get to me. She shouldn't be getting to me. I'm 24 years old and a freaking hot thang (yes, I just went there). She's 33 years old, starting to show her age, and the other girls on my plate are young, sexy and.... why the f$ck am I even interested in this girl? I am always attracted to the worst type of girls. She's an attention *****, a slut, a liar, and even though she'll make out with me, tell me all kinds of sweet nothings about myself... I can see it in her eyes that she likes me.

It's freaking confusing me!!

I think this is a control thing. I don't know wtf it is.

So she's sick (the b$tch made me sick too) and I decided to be all nice and buy her a get well flower.

You should have given her a get well slap on the ass at most.

She's 33 years old, starting to show her age, and the other girls on my plate are young, sexy and.... why the f$ck am I even interested in this girl?

Girls over the hill (30+) need to really step their game up if they even want a real playa to have anything to do with them. Her game is wack and you shouldn't mess with her because shes obviously categorized herself in the hot 22 year old girl category and assumes you need to scratch and paw for her affections. Her value is low so you really don't need to expend the type of effort you might for a 20 year old HB9.

She is just an AW and she frankly isn't worthy of your time. Draw back and pursue other girls. She'll either show her true colors by finding some other guy to annoy or be at your place at 2:30 AM sometime with no panties on...

Rubato said:

- I am a better guy than 99% of the guys out there. I have my sh$t together. I look great. Girls tell me that all the time. I'm in excellent shape. I have great body posture and carry myself well. I'm going to be a rich specialist surgeon. I have money. I dress well. I'm confident, and when I'm not, I can fake it very well. I'm an ex professional rock musician.

And I can't get in this girl's pants. It's not even about the girl. It's about her saying no. I f$cking hate the word no.

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Narcissism anyone?

I'm just getting really pissed about this whole situation. I feel like the girl is running game on me better than I'm running game on her. She's lying to me. She tells me she doesn't fool around with guys she doesn't have a relationship with. That's obvious bullsh$t because we fooled around the first time we went out and she's got a crazy reputation.

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Borederline anyone?

That's exactly why you are so attracted to her. You want her goodies, but she's smart enough to know you will abandon her afterwards. She wants to get you enticed. She knows clearly that she is. It doesn't matter about your text message game bullsh!t, she can see through all of that. She wants you on a hook, and then she will crush you.

It doesn't really matter what I say. I can tell you to avoid her, and so can a million other posters, you're going to do what you want. You clearly have feelings for some game playing, life sucking succubus. You barely know her and she is already consuming half your thoughts and time. What do you think she will do if you actually began dating her? Idk why you are so interested in this girl. She is clearly bad news. But I do understand you won't listen and are going to do whatever you want regardless, so prepare yourself for a very hard lesson. I will see you soon. I will try and show as much sympathy as I can without telling you "I told you so".

-Scars

The way he says he is better reminds me slightly of the type of mindset people have if a girl dumps them, "Oh come on b1tch, you know noone will love you as much as me, noone is as perfect for you as me, nobody will make you as happy as I do, stop playing musical d1cks and get over to me PLEASE,"

Not sure if he'll post back but I'm sure he'll know to just fire her azz and go find something better.

Scars said:

Narcissism anyone?



Borederline anyone?

That's exactly why you are so attracted to her. You want her goodies, but she's smart enough to know you will abandon her afterwards. She wants to get you enticed. She knows clearly that she is. It doesn't matter about your text message game bullsh!t, she can see through all of that. She wants you on a hook, and then she will crush you.

It doesn't really matter what I say. I can tell you to avoid her, and so can a million other posters, you're going to do what you want. You clearly have feelings for some game playing, life sucking succubus. You barely know her and she is already consuming half your thoughts and time. What do you think she will do if you actually began dating her? Idk why you are so interested in this girl. She is clearly bad news. But I do understand you won't listen and are going to do whatever you want regardless, so prepare yourself for a very hard lesson. I will see you soon. I will try and show as much sympathy as I can without telling you "I told you so".

-Scars

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Listen to Scars^^^

Scars said:

Narcissism anyone?



Borederline anyone?

That's exactly why you are so attracted to her. You want her goodies, but she's smart enough to know you will abandon her afterwards. She wants to get you enticed. She knows clearly that she is. It doesn't matter about your text message game bullsh!t, she can see through all of that. She wants you on a hook, and then she will crush you.

It doesn't really matter what I say. I can tell you to avoid her, and so can a million other posters, you're going to do what you want. You clearly have feelings for some game playing, life sucking succubus. You barely know her and she is already consuming half your thoughts and time. What do you think she will do if you actually began dating her? Idk why you are so interested in this girl. She is clearly bad news. But I do understand you won't listen and are going to do whatever you want regardless, so prepare yourself for a very hard lesson. I will see you soon. I will try and show as much sympathy as I can without telling you "I told you so".

-Scars

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You're right. Thank you.

I would disagree with you on one point however. She is not consuming anywhere near half of my thoughts and time. It probably sounds like she was based on what I said.

I'm not going to argue with your assement of me as narcissistic either. That's something I need to work on. What happened last night was the result of me killing myself over studying for a series of tough exams (that I have been acing, btw), being super tired and coming off of my ritalin. I woke up this morning with a much better perspective and need to learn when I start feeling that way to disconnect and either go to sleep or leave the rest of the world alone until I figure out a better way to manage things.

I think I've already learned "my lesson". I have a bad frame when it comes to things like this and make interactions with women principally about whether or not I can have sex with them. And when I start successfully gaming a girl and don't, it starts making me mad because I feel like I'm failing somewhere. You said I am "so interested in the girl" and that's not really accurate. I'm interested in proving to myself that I am able to attract her (or anyone I think has a good body) effectively enough to sleep with me. Last night, I started getting confused about things. That's obviously a bad frame, and to be honest, I didn't realize that's where I was coming from.

I don't know you Scars, so I don't know if your message was an attempt to use reverse psychology on me, basically telling me you already knew I wasn't going to listen to you in an attempt to get me to listen to you. Or maybe that's just your general expectation from people (which is realistic). But regardless of your motives, it doesn't matter because as I said in the beginning, you're right.

And I thank you for your honesty.

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The way he says he is better reminds me slightly of the type of mindset people have if a girl dumps them, "Oh come on b1tch, you know noone will love you as much as me, noone is as perfect for you as me, nobody will make you as happy as I do, stop playing musical d1cks and get over to me PLEASE,"

Not sure if he'll post back but I'm sure he'll know to just fire her azz and go find something better.

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That's not really the mindset I had at all. That is the mindset of a person who doesn't really believe any of it and says it to justify themselves.

I actually believe what I said.

You can't get hung up on one chick, no matter who she is.

With all due respect, you sound like the hot girl who finds that ONE guy that isn't drooling over her. He's the guy she becomes obsessed with.

She's playing a power game with you. Ignore her for a while and get other hotter chicks so you can turn the tables and take back your power.

Rubato said:

I decided to be all nice and buy her a get well flower. I also brought some of my cologne because she's been going around wearing one of my American Eagle Hoodies everywhere and sprayed it all over.

She was there. And I read people pretty well, and she was colder tonight.

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No need to spend any mind reading skills here... I see that happening over and over. There should be rule: flowers should be given to spouses only, so that after 30 years of marriage they know you still care a bit.

Giving flowers is so cheesy, that it screams desperation. Any half-wise girl will know that she's in complete control when she receives flowers. Besides saying 'i love you' there's NO other worse way to mess things up.

So I left. I didn't even kiss the girl goodbye. I... walked up behind her, put my arms around her and breathed down the side of her neck and smelled her hair for a second. And left.

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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you do need to get your act together ASAP if you want to have a shot in nailing this girl.

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No need to spend any mind reading skills here... I see that happening over and over. There should be rule: flowers should be given to spouses only, so that after 30 years of marriage they know you still care a bit.

Giving flowers is so cheesy, that it screams desperation. Any half-wise girl will know that she's in complete control when she receives flowers. Besides saying 'i love you' there's NO other worse way to mess things up.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you do need to get your act together ASAP if you want to have a shot in nailing this girl.

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To both of the people who said the thing about the flowers:

I don't think you actually read what I said. I bought flowers, but the whole point of doing so was at the suggestion of someone who said I was playing my game too clean and needed to make a mistake to help build comfort. I thought, what the hell, this girl is a low value girl and someone def worth experimenting with. Ergo, I tried something different.

I hardly ever buy flowers.

Second, I could have nailed this girl last night. I realize things with women don't typically happen on the order of a day, but I took Scars' advice to heart and nexted this girl. She showed up with a box of condoms with her to dance class. And I refused to go with her.

Yes, that could have just been bait in an attempt to string me along further.

But I think she really wanted me. 90% of the people out there give tells when they're legit disappointed but they try and act like they're not. But I saw who freakin gives a crap? I am done with this girl. I'll be seeing at least 1 new one tonight.

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I don't think you actually read what I said. I bought flowers, but the whole point of doing so was at the suggestion of someone who said I was playing my game too clean and needed to make a mistake to help build comfort. I thought, what the hell, this girl is a low value girl and someone def worth experimenting with. Ergo, I tried something different.

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I did read everything (BTW I don't think the suggestion made much sense but I digress). Buying flowers is not a minor mistake, it's a major blow to your chances.

A minor mistake would be letting it out that you enjoy her company or something at that level. Buying flowers is building a huge barrier to overcome in the future.

Just because you did overcome it, doesn't make it any more logical IMHO.

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I did read everything (BTW I don't think the suggestion made much sense but I digress). Buying flowers is not a minor mistake, it's a major blow to your chances.

A minor mistake would be letting it out that you enjoy her company or something at that level. Buying flowers is building a huge barrier to overcome in the future.

Just because you did overcome it, doesn't make it any more logical IMHO.

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Point. I agree about the flowers.

Rubato listen to this....

She is playing you big time. Women are masters of intuition. She knows you dig her therefore she is pulling the strings.

Rule #1 The one who cares the least wins.

Rule#2 Shes being a jerk to you and its human nature to love jerks because they have great confidence, lie, are selfish, create highs and lows, and know how to get you hooked like a drug.

How to turn the tables on her? Block her out of your mind completely. Focus on spinning more plates and on your career. Be the most successfuly (with a confident attitude) and ALL WOMEN will be chasing you. I have gamed the hottest women and have been gamed by the ugliest women. Some women are more confident than others.