Iron and the Soul – By Henry Rollins

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Iron and the Soul – By Henry Rollins

I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself.

Completely.

When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me “garbage can” and telling me I’d be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn’t run home crying, wondering why. I knew all too well. I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy.

I hated myself all the time. As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn’t going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside. I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you’ll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn’t think much of them either.

Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class. Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no. He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring. On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn’t even drag them to my mom’s car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly.

Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.’s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn’t looking. When I could take the punch we would know that we were getting somewhere. At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing. In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn’t want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in.

Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn’t know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.

Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away. You couldn’t say **** to me.

It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I was wrong. When the Iron doesn’t want to come off the mat, it’s the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn’t teach you anything. That’s the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will always work against you.

It wasn’t until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can’t be as bad as that workout.

I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn’t ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you’re not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.

I have never met a truly strong person who didn’t have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone’s shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr. Pepperman.

Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart.

Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.

Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn’t see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness. To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.

I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you’re made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it’s some kind of miracle if you’re not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.

I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.

Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind.

The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it’s impossible to turn back.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
 

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One of the most amazing articles I've read. Bookmarked.

Sad thing is, most people won't even read it.
 

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*bump*
People need to read this.
 

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A lot of truth in that, but nothing new really. Yeah, people doing white collar work should definitely balance it with some form of physical exercise, though it does not necessarily have to involve "the iron". I have seen climbers, swimmers and soccer players with great bodies and relaxed minds.
The "romantic thoughts" you had during work-outs is probably just the testosterone flowing through your body. I have that too. Nothing mystical about it.
What is kinda negative about the whole gym thing is that some people (not all !!) use it as a substitute for a social life. I know I do. You can't be a lonely nerd, because you work out and have a good body, right? Not necessarily. When you find yourself doing it on Saturday nights while other people go out and have fun with friends, you are probably still a nerd.

Not meaning to be negative here. Working out and sports in general is something great. Just don't use it to compensate for poor social skills.

btw. It's funny imagining a teacher punching his student in the guts.
 

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Damn, awesome story. Really makes me want to start working out.
 

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ThreeStorms said:
A lot of truth in that, but nothing new really. Yeah, people doing white collar work should definitely balance it with some form of physical exercise, though it does not necessarily have to involve "the iron". I have seen climbers, swimmers and soccer players with great bodies and relaxed minds.

What is kinda negative about the whole gym thing is that some people (not all !!) use it as a substitute for a social life. I know I do. You can't be a lonely nerd, because you work out and have a good body, right? Not necessarily. When you find yourself doing it on Saturday nights while other people go out and have fun with friends, you are probably still a nerd.
Activities like this are not replacements for being social. They are important parts of your individual life and spiritual growth. These experiences can be shared with others, but without the individual value you are being the "nerd" you speak of, but at the opposite end of the spectrum, focused solely on being social. If you feel the need to be away from people for a night, even if its a Saturday where all your friends are partying, go do it!!! You seem to want to tell yourself, "I must go out, other people are going out and having fun, I can not miss out on this or I will be the nerd/loner/etc!"....Essentially, your being a social "nerd", leaning to far towards the social end of the spectrum. Don't get me wrong, it's equally as important to be social and share experiences with others, but be careful not to neglect the things that make you an individual.


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The "romantic thoughts" you had during work-outs is probably just the testosterone flowing through your body. I have that too. Nothing mystical about it.

Also, just something to think about...your subjective experience of consciousness, your whole conception of "you" even existing, can be boiled down to a few neurons firing and some liquid getting pumped around, so does that mean there's nothing mysterious or mystical about that either?
 

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Really dude??? I'm disappointed by everything said here. I'd say this is a rather unique perspective on weightlifting. This is something that got him completely in touch with himself and literally dug him out of the deepest pit he has ever been in. I completely agree that it doesn't have to be weight lifting....in this particular instance it was but it can be anything....you know swimmers and climbers who both lose themselves and find themselves in their respective passions.

Activities like this are not replacements for being social. They are parts of your individual life and spiritual growth. These experiences can be shared with others, but without the individual value you are being the opposite of what you called a nerd. Essentially, your being a social "nerd". Don't get me wrong, it's equally as important to be social and share experiences with others, but be careful not to neglect the things that make you an individual.
Can't argue with what you said, and I did not mean to diss the OP, who may very well have found some form of enlightenment in his gym sessions.
It was more of a general rant by me. I see and read posts from so many dudes that invest so much energy, time and even money to craft that perfect body. Their dedication surely is impressive, but one should double-check their motives. Is it about the sport, or rather some kind of compensation for bad luck with girls, lack of respect from other guys or the aforementioned bad social skills? A guy with a normal body who is open, friendly and has a distinct personality will do so much better with women and people in general, than the dude working out six times a week, who is bland. Yeah, it seems like common sense, but you wouldn't believe how often men don't get that.
I have seen guys like that, all jacked up, waiting in the club on the side of the dance floor, desperately hoping some chick will notice his sculpted biceps and come over to talk to him (it never happens), while others are having the time of their lives, dancing like hell and flirting like crazy.

Many dudes who plan to improve themselves decide to start with getting a better body. That's OKAY. However, the problem is when they suddenly feel this is the one thing that will turn their life around, and never try to improve in other areas. Working out is a nice addition. But it should not be the basis of your improvement.
You know why many nerds prefer their lonely gym sessions to any social activity? Because it is easy, in comparison. Being on their own is tested ground for them. It does not involve the fear that comes with being outgoing and socialize.

I only say these things because I am so guilty of all of that (except the dance thing, I am usually the first to make a fool out of myself on the floor :p)
 
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You're both working out and dancing wrong (btw you completely missed the point of Henry Rollins' most excellent essay), and I'm saying this as a competitive powerlifter and a dance instructor. All you said is pure projection. Men who are dedicated and passionate about what they do are attractive, and having good social skills and being dedicated to working out are not mutually exclusive.

You said a normal guy with blah blah can do better than the jacked dude waiting on the side of the dance floor. How do you think your normal guy will go against a muscular guy who is getting on that dance floor and can actually dance AND can talk to women just as well?

I used to assume that people make the effort to go to this website to become Don Juan, the complete Renaissance Man who's great at everything, and not some normal average guy who's happy with merely "doing better with women". I guess I assumed wrong.
 

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While I may have missed Rollins point, you completely missed mine.
Of course, the guy with social skills AND good body wins over. My whole point is that there is the danger that one mistakes working out as some kind of substitute for a social life. At least you don't sit around playing Warcraft, right? No, you sweat in some big anonymous gym.

It's no miracle cure. Compare it to a chronical unhappy person who thinks getting a girl will turn his life around.
 

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Jitterbug said:
I used to assume that people make the effort to go to this website to become Don Juan, the complete Renaissance Man who's great at everything, and not some normal average guy who's happy with merely "doing better with women". I guess I assumed wrong.
No you didn't. We are on the same boat. If getting that hot bod is part of your rich life, that is perfectly fine. But there IS a trend among lonely, socially awkward people trying to compensate for it with a gym addiction.
 

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My whole point is that there is the danger that one mistakes working out as some kind of substitute for a social life.
There is never that danger if you work out right in the first place.

There is a danger in everything if you do it wrong.

The big anonymous gym is from your projection.

I train at a powerlifting club. It's a team environment where nobody trains on his own in a corner talking to nobody else. Nobody is on iPod. We talk, exchange ideas, coach lower level lifters, spot & load for each other etc. I have made good friends there. That's what a good gym is like and that's what gyms used to be like.

You're obsessed with the body. That's where you're doing it wrong, just like those mirror athletes you brought up. Henry Rollins' essay is not about those people. Henry himself isn't one. His training isn't that bullsh1t bodybuilding you see in commercial gyms. He trains for strength and masculine energy, not a hot bod to attract club chicks (so do I). A better body is just a side effect.

You're also obsessed with a social life. It comes through very clearly in your posts. Again, this is not what Henry Rollins' essay is about. His resonates with us because we understand that our masculinity sometimes seeks solitude, a kind of man cave, or an environment where our masculinity is forged and our natural aggression is unleashed (in a socially acceptable way!)

A lot of guys go to the gym hoping that if they build some muscles and flex them in front of the mirror, some hottie in lycra pants may catch a glimpse of their toned biceps and smile at them. Those guys are the same ones who don't actually have much interaction with women in their lives. Henry is different. As a rock star, he's surrounded by women. His training time is his escape from them. I'm the same (well I'm no rock star but there are too many bloody women in my social life), my training times are when I get to be around men and away from socialising with women. Men in the past all understood this need, that they should have a place where they were not distracted by women, where they could be with their brothers and be men. Men these days think that if they're not hanging out with women, they're not having a social life.
 

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ThreeStorms said:
No you didn't. We are on the same boat. If getting that hot bod is part of your rich life, that is perfectly fine. But there IS a trend among lonely, socially awkward people trying to compensate for it with a gym addiction.
No mate - you really don't get it. Getting a "Hot Bod" is a mere fraction of the reason you work out...and it certainly shouldn't be the focus that you work out to get a "Hot bod for the chicks".....listen it aint about that.
You do if for yourself. Just like a mountaineer climbs a mountain for himself, just like a F1 driver drives a car at breakneck speeds for himelf ..............
Arnold uses a great analogy in Pumping Iron where he responds to a question about isnt what you do Strange and he said something to the effect of that a race car driver timing himself around the track is for him a strange thing to be doing.
Sure its a nice little bonus to have a chick compliment you on your body or whatever...but it goes way deeper than that.
You can apply the essence of Rollins' essay to anything in your life - he just happens to apply it to weightlifting.
 

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Jitterbug said:
There is never that danger if you work out right in the first place.

There is a danger in everything if you do it wrong.

The big anonymous gym is from your projection.

I train at a powerlifting club. It's a team environment where nobody trains on his own in a corner talking to nobody else. Nobody is on iPod. We talk, exchange ideas, coach lower level lifters, spot & load for each other etc. I have made good friends there. That's what a good gym is like and that's what gyms used to be like.

You're obsessed with the body. That's where you're doing it wrong, just like those mirror athletes you brought up. Henry Rollins' essay is not about those people. Henry himself isn't one. His training isn't that bullsh1t bodybuilding you see in commercial gyms. He trains for strength and masculine energy, not a hot bod to attract club chicks (so do I). A better body is just a side effect.

You're also obsessed with a social life. It comes through very clearly in your posts. Again, this is not what Henry Rollins' essay is about. His resonates with us because we understand that our masculinity sometimes seeks solitude, a kind of man cave, or an environment where our masculinity is forged and our natural aggression is unleashed (in a socially acceptable way!)

A lot of guys go to the gym hoping that if they build some muscles and flex them in front of the mirror, some hottie in lycra pants may catch a glimpse of their toned biceps and smile at them. Those guys are the same ones who don't actually have much interaction with women in their lives. Henry is different. As a rock star, he's surrounded by women. His training time is his escape from them. I'm the same (well I'm no rock star but there are too many bloody women in my social life), my training times are when I get to be around men and away from socialising with women. Men in the past all understood this need, that they should have a place where they were not distracted by women, where they could be with their brothers and be men. Men these days think that if they're not hanging out with women, they're not having a social life.
Jitterbug gets it.
 

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Rollins post is what I've figured all along. As was Jitterbug's.

So glad I've found an independant gym, away from the Goodlife's and EXTREME!~!~ FITNESS nonsence of the 'fitness' world.
 
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What a fantastic read this was, very articulate, well thought out and flavored with Philosophy, Spirituality and Mental Awareness. +1 Many thanks for sharing this with us and I hope many people get to read this!

Threestorms, however cynical he may come across, makes a good point. It was not the point of the thread at all but nevertheless he makes a point for some people to consider.

I also find the male ego rather funny. When one makes a post and another "disagrees" it is immediately 'clash of the titans' and a literally fight to the death:trouble:
 

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supremacy said:
What a fantastic read this was, very articulate, well thought out and flavored with Philosophy, Spirituality and Mental Awareness. +1 Many thanks for sharing this with us and I hope many people get to read this!

Threestorms, however cynical he may come across, makes a good point. It was not the point of the thread at all but nevertheless he makes a point for some people to consider.

I also find the male ego rather funny. When one makes a post and another "disagrees" it is immediately 'clash of the titans' and a literally fight to the death:trouble:
Awww no mate - Threestorms has his point of view and thats ok - certainly not a 'Clash of the Titans' as far as I am concerned.

I guess as you get older you realise everyone has a different take on things - its all good because it would be quite boring if we all had the same view.
 

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Agreed - it's just a discussion.
By the way, I managed to crawl out of the hole I've been in for the last days (a result of being 10000 miles away from my friends and girl), and can say now: working out rocks! LOL still, I do have the same opinion as before (do not use it as a substitute for a social life), but I could have said it in a more optimistic tone.
 

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OK let me say it one last time, because you still don't get it:

Working out and being social are not mutually exclusive.
 

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And who exactly SAID THAT? Damned.
Seriously, please show me where I wrote that.
 
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