Stop using Internet Dating as a Buffer and grow a F@ckin’ Pair

Stop using Internet Dating as a Buffer and grow a F@ckin’ Pair


Guys who resort to Internet dating are in two main camps:

A) About 5 % - Guys who have it together and are simply using it as a way to gain access to a wider variety of women (this applies mostly to older and more experienced men).

B) About 95% - Guys who are using internet dating as a buffer (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125865) as an excuse to avoid confronting their fear of rejection and taking action in the real world.


There is nothing wrong with being in Camp A. Whereas being in Camp B is incredibly harmful to your self-improvement as a man.

To find out which camp you are in, ask yourself this question?


In the recent times you have met up with a chick from online, have you banged her the first time you met her (with this happening more than once)?


If yes, you are probably in camp A. You have nothing to worry about.

Whereas, if you answered “No” (and especially if you are in your 20’s and/or have yet to lay a girl through online dating), you are without a doubt in Camp B.


If so, you need to confront your fears and realise that at some stage, if you want to be banging a girls brains out, you have to be with her in person.

Hiding behind a computer screen is only delaying your development and causing more harm than good.

Girls online as a general rule are less attractive on average than those in real life and with more issues as well. Big beached whales (BBW), single moms, crazy b!tches, they are all there.

Stop deluding yourself that the reason you’ve given up on all those gorgeous hotties you’ve seen in bars and clubs and resorted to online is because they are “low quality” girls, and you are looking for more of a connection with a girl who also has a good personality.

We all know that is complete b/s.

The real reason why you have resorted to online is because you are afraid to approach and speak to girls in real life.

At some stage you will have to confront your fears and admit to yourself the real reason why you are online. The sooner the better, for your sake.

Guys (including some on this forum) boast about being able to spam messages out to chicks on online dating sites and get responses, and keep going on about it like it is the best thing in the world.

But you know what?

Any dude can put a few half decent pics up, spam a hundred girls and get some to respond.

It means jack sh1t unless you are meeting up with them IN REAL LIFE and banging their brains out.

One approach out in the real world will be worth the same in experience as hundreds of hours surfing online dating profiles.

Cancel your online dating accounts, man up and grow a fvckin’ pair, go out and talk to women and stop deluding yourself.

runner83 said:

Stop using Internet Dating as a Buffer and grow a F@ckin’ Pair


Guys who resort to Internet dating are in two main camps:

A) About 5 % - Guys who have it together and are simply using it as a way to gain access to a wider variety of women (this applies mostly to older and more experienced men).

B) About 95% - Guys who are using internet dating as a buffer (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125865) as an excuse to avoid confronting their fear of rejection and taking action in the real world.


There is nothing wrong with being in Camp A. Whereas being in Camp B is incredibly harmful to your self-improvement as a man.

To find out which camp you are in, ask yourself this question?


In the recent times you have met up with a chick from online, have you banged her the first time you met her (with this happening more than once)?


If yes, you are probably in camp A. You have nothing to worry about.

Whereas, if you answered “No” (and especially if you are in your 20’s and/or have yet to lay a girl through online dating), you are without a doubt in Camp B.


If so, you need to confront your fears and realise that at some stage, if you want to be banging a girls brains out, you have to be with her in person.

Hiding behind a computer screen is only delaying your development and causing more harm than good.

Girls online as a general rule are less attractive on average than those in real life and with more issues as well. Big beached whales (BBW), single moms, crazy b!tches, they are all there.

Stop deluding yourself that the reason you’ve given up on all those gorgeous hotties you’ve seen in bars and clubs and resorted to online is because they are “low quality” girls, and you are looking for more of a connection with a girl who also has a good personality.

We all know that is complete b/s.

The real reason why you have resorted to online is because you are afraid to approach and speak to girls in real life.

At some stage you will have to confront your fears and admit to yourself the real reason why you are online. The sooner the better, for your sake.

Guys (including some on this forum) boast about being able to spam messages out to chicks on online dating sites and get responses, and keep going on about it like it is the best thing in the world.

But you know what?

Any dude can put a few half decent pics up, spam a hundred girls and get some to respond.

It means jack sh1t unless you are meeting up with them IN REAL LIFE and banging their brains out.

One approach out in the real world will be worth the same in experience as hundreds of hours surfing online dating profiles.

Cancel your online dating accounts, man up and grow a fvckin’ pair, go out and talk to women and stop deluding yourself.

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so very very true, sadly Im a 95% er, was always a fairlyconfident guy, took a hammering over the last year or so, oneitis big style.
need to get my arse out there

Ye but runner, I’ve seen you on this site give advice on internet dating, so what’s the go???
Are you a hypocrite?

I've had 3 stages of online dating in my life.

1) 1999-2000 era - Yahoo Personals
Yahoo personals used to be 100% free, unmonitored, and SWARMING with women (i would say back in this era there were 2 women for every man). Truly the golden age of online dating for men.

I had sex for the first time when i was 13 (with an 18 year old). I didn't have sex again until i was 18, with a very sexy 30 yo milf i meant on yahoo personals who was cheating on her husband. Over the next few months - i had sex with 3 more women i meant off of yahoo.

At the time - It was a HUGE confidence boost to go from having sex with one woman when i was a teenagers - to having 5 partners after only a few months. This was before i had ANY kind of game, before i knew who David Deangelo was, etc.

Don't recall why i stopped...

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2) 2007-2008 era - Myspace experiment

I live in a college town and during the summer time - the place becomes a ghost town. I decided to see how successful i could be on myspace, and i kept track of my progress on sosuave. I cannot find most of the threads i remember posting (perhaps they have been lost in the various maintenance updates). The only thread i could find - has been butchered by time. There's only one response to it and i know it was like 4 pages long originally. It also seems to have merged my part 2 with my part 1, as well as duplicated itself into the official myspace thread (probably how it ended up getting changed). But here it is: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128883

My conclusion was as follows:

overall, i rate my myspace experience as a C+.... i've invested probably 200 hours in it over the last 3 months, and have gotten only 4 girls... that's not very good... but at the same time... i can see how long-term contact could make that number sky rocket...

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In my part 2 (which only a piece of it still exist, as i know it was longer than it is now)... I wrote this:

i think women are becoming a lot more skeptical of people online than they were even a year ago...

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And this is true! Women online suddenly started being a lot more cautious about talking to strangers. I also learned that A LOT more men were hitting on random women online (i do believe this started to occur in the 07-08 era.)

This is when women started getting snobby ONLINE. No matter if they were 5's or 10's - the same level of snobby existed. Women that would piss their pants if you kicked game to them in real life were suddenly acting like men weren't worthy of her words.

So i left online pickup in the dust.

Until...

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3) 2010-2011 era - Craigslist & Plenty of Fish Sluts

There was a guy on here back in the day who used to RAVE about how many women he was hooking up with off of Craigslist. MOST people on here did not believe him, because we would go on there and get NO success. I believe what he was leaving out is that he was posting pics of his body to land the women. How could i know that? Because you HAVE TO! And you MUST have a nice body to even consider this an option.

I started doing it because i buy and sell on craigslist for extra $; and i just found my way browing "casual encounters" one day.

Went through similar experience i had with myspace. Just experimented with all different types of things. Lay 1, Lay 2, Lay 3, Lay 4, Lay 5, Lay 6, Lay 7 LATER! I find craigslist to be ALMOST as easy as yahoo personals. Just post a picture of your body, and post a really mean message about how you don't want fat, ugly, hairy, etc. women. And you should get 2-3 REAL responses (don't feel like going into detail on how to tell if it's real, but it's all in the email address.) Now - you can be picky.

Craiglist women have NEVER flaked on me and all i've ever done it meet them for sex. 7 lays, and an 8th coming today at 2pm, in a hotel room that SHE'S paying for (im providing the drinks).

As far as POF - - -

I mainly started there because on here and another site - that seems to be what people ask for, and i like to have 1st hand knowledge on everything people ask on here. On Plenty of fish i've had less success with than any dating site i've ever been on, but i enjoy the challenge that comes with it (truly). I've laid 2 women off of there. But have got the numbers of about 50!!!! Women on there tend to be wayyyyyyyyyy more fake about their intentions of meeting. But my limited success has encouraged me to not just quit completely...

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I mainly do online pickup because going out every night is not practical to me. I do go out though...

I agree with the premise that if you aren't having success - you should just try something else. Unless you're purely using it as a sharpening tool!

There used to be a popular tool people said you should use to get used to cold approaching. This tool was chat rooms/ims. Overtime, people decided that telling guys to do this made the guys use it as an excuse to not go out and do the real thing, so people stopped advising guys to do it (and in fact - turned completely against the idea). I however, never truly saw the problem with that. And think guys looking to sharpen their tool set (and gain confidence) can certainly use online dating as a resource to do so. But it should NOT be used AS A REPLACEMENT/EXCUSE to never go out though!

Just my $.02...

Some people will never grow balls in the first place and look at this as a way to try to get a women/girl.

Someone I know tries to use Facebook to meet *****es...found out he has like 200+ people he knows and thinks hes some kind of god with women.

FInd out later that he was suppose to meet this girl at a bar...he was all hyped up for it. Needless to say he did it over FB and she flaked saying she was uncomortable being alone with him....he drove 1 hr to the bar.

Meeting people in person is awesome..I've never tried online dating though.

I'm in that first 5%, but boy let me tell you although I'm successful with the medium, 99% of them are loonies.

I've yet to find a decent woman who does not turn out to be seriously demented (BPD, HPD, etc.).

I think virtually everyone coming out of an LTR these days finds their way online. Just a couple of years ago the number of online dateables (age and location) in my area might have been a few hundred max, now it might be a few thousand.

56andre said:

Ye but runner, I’ve seen you on this site give advice on internet dating, so what’s the go???
Are you a hypocrite?

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Not at all brah.

Online dating is still very valid and a good way to meet chicks UNLESS YOU ARE USING IT AS AN EXCUSE TO AVOID MEETING CHICKS IN THE REAL WORLD.

This thread was mainly aimed at dudes in their 20’s who are using it as a means to avoid approach anxiety.

For me, I’ve probably had about a 50 / 50 ratio of lays online to real life, and I go through periods of using it or not.

I would generally regard myself as in camp A, but in the past there have been times when I have found myself drifting towards camp B. It is then that I usually delete the profiles and just go back to real world only for a while.

For older blokes who may not have the option of going out and finding pvssy galore, online dating is still a great resource.

Online dating is only bad if you never actually make the effort to go out on dates with the girls you are talking to on the site(s).

yeah well even if you are a man and you have a ****in' grown pair of balls, you are still going to get rejected, which is why I feel like punching a woman's brains out for rejecting me, eventhough that ****in' ***** did not owe me ****!

initiatorhater06 said:

yeah well even if you are a man and you have a ****in' grown pair of balls, you are still going to get rejected, which is why I feel like punching a woman's brains out for rejecting me, eventhough that ****in' ***** did not owe me ****!

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You've got some serious issues.

SharinganUser said:

You've got some serious issues.

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Agreed.

For fvck's sake dude, go out, get some experience approaching chicks, then report to us on what happened.

Until then, we can't help you.

runner83 said:

Agreed.

For fvck's sake dude, go out, get some experience approaching chicks, then report to us on what happened.

Until then, we can't help you.

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yeah well it just pisses me off getting rejected

initiatorhater06 said:

yeah well it just pisses me off getting rejected

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we all get rejected to a greater or lesser degree, you have to learn to accept in and roll with it, Im going out in town tonight...I'll get rejected, it wont feel good but there is zero benefit in getting angry or upset about it, if you are getting angry, you need to do some work on yourself

initiatorhater06 said:

yeah well even if you are a man and you have a ****in' grown pair of balls, you are still going to get rejected, which is why I feel like punching a woman's brains out for rejecting me, eventhough that ****in' ***** did not owe me ****!

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Then why are you thinking violence? Rejection is a part of life my friend, it is there to separate winners from quitters, boys from men.

Let's reverse the scenario. So you are willing to bang any girls that comes into your life, interested as F@CK and DTF only because she asks ? HELL NO

Why ? because you have girls coming to you that are ugly, fat, major AW, gold-diggers etc. So dating is you way to filter those girls you don't want. They are doing the same thing too man.With so many filters, why would anybody wanna add that huge @ss filter call: internet dating ?

Internet dating is like porn: It all a big fantasy, if it happens, it's just a bonus and you've been lucky