Greeting fellow low-lives of sosuave.

And a very few members who will understand this post.

Yes, you, the poster talking about the ONE girl that didn't reply to him, the other poster whining on he's not very good looking, and myself are a part of this. WE are the decaying matter that so suave has become. The goal is NEVER about getting women. The goal is to be INDEPENDENT of women. Not in the sexual way, as human beings are programmed to be sexual beings. But in the way that allows you to stop over-analyzing her every whim and little motion. We are MEN, we are made to conquer worlds, shatter records in sports, create civilizations, and destroy them. I’m pounding my keyboard as I’m typing this. Is the message getting across?!

We should have all been born with a dream. Something great (like Gandhi), or something not (like Hitler), but a dream none the less!!!! Women are the REWARD for our actions. They are NOT the reason we live, they are not the reason we FIGHT. Especially when you don’t even KNOW her, or when she hasn’t even told you she LOVED you yet. The only women that should REALLY matter (besides loving wife or loving girlfriend) is your biological mother, because she bought you into this world. Do you think she did so so you could whine about female problems?

Our society is DYING. Civilization is no longer civilized. The internet is infested with porn, which synomous to internet cancer [bet you 50 imaginary rep points 80% of sosuave watch porn]. Child pornography, gang violence, racism, sexism, poverty, starvation, hatred, and we are sitting here looking at ways to make women LIKE us? Are we INSANE? What is all this garbage? Why doesn’t this girl like me? Should I open the door for girls? Will being nice to women make them like me? Its ridiculous!

What happened to honor, chivalry, and manliness? You open the doors for girls because you are a man, because you are stronger than they are, because you are a respectful person. TO THE ****ING HELL IF THEY WILL LIKE YOU FOR IT OR NOT. Don’t you have moral values? Values on whether or not you should or should not do something? Do they change if it changes your success with WOMEN? If it does, then you are sad.

And to these sad people, I can predict what they think…

Ohhhh, Mr. S.U.R.F. are you going to be a nice guy?

No.

Are you going to treat women with respect and care, and act like they are beautiful and unique.

YES.

Well according to seduction theory ( or whatever **** jargon, idc), you are not going to get laid that way.

THEN I WILL LET MY **** STAY DRY. My moral values comes a LIGHT YEAR before getting laid.

Then how will you remain happy?

I have a dream, I’m almost 17 right now. I want to be a doctor. I want to cure something to help humanity.

But you won’t have women.

Neither will you…sitting on your ass, asking this **** to me on the internet.

My true mistake in coming to so suave…I believed. I believed that if being an ******* could get me girls, then I should have been an *******. I put getting women before my own MORAL VALUES. The past me disgusts me. But I didn’t know any better.

Sosuave’s idea is good. To help people improve. But for the love of god, there is a god damn thread with 10000 replies on whether or not you should masturbate or not. CHRIST! Help make so suave the hub for helping people improve themselves. Not the place where people ask pitiful problems.

What if I don’t know how to talk to women.

**** YOU, its built in your DNA. You are made to be able to talk to people. You are thinking too much.

Seriously, I don’t know how to talk to women.

Me neither. I read a ****load of psych texts and seduction theory. Only to realize, I knew how to all along…

There is a phrase “if you want to do something right, you have to do it yourself.” This is the same for happiness. If you want to be happy, you cannot depend on others to bring you happiness. You cannot depend on others for your wellbeing PERIOD. You have to do it yourself. **** implied social value, **** perceived social value. There is ONLY self-respect.

^ Oh, don’t take off your clothes and jump on tables. That is not apathy anyways, Your still trying to get attention.

So have some god damn respect for yourself. Please. Do it for me. Realize that you are putting yourself in a bad situation. You are depending your success for women ON women. YOU choose how successful you are. No women can change that.

Join me, and become THE **** with me together. Working hard, getting a good education. Cleaning our streets of druggies and gang violence. Mending broken homes and broken hearts. Stop war, stop poverty, stop racism, stop SOMETHING. ANYTHING. Anything is better then living your life for WOMEN. Its your life. If you don’t care about your life. You should care for OTHERS, because they might still care.

And when our society is great once more. Women will flock to us. The analogy is : women are flies, they always find THE ****. But then, you will enjoy the rewards of you succeeding your dream. Knowing you made the world just a tad less ****tier.

This will be effective if you READ this out loud. Except the italics and the quotes. Go back, READ IT AGAIN OUT LOUD. Feel the truth resonate in your voice, feel yourself shiver with power…the power you start to give yourself.

This is not a technique, this is a MINDSET.

Thanks for reading…

I intentionally wanted to post a question about what makes a person the “great catch”. Then I realized. I DON’T GIVE A ****. I have dreams, I have skills to hone. I don’t really have time for this ****. I started to rage when I began reading the garbage on “discussion“.

NEVER GIVE UP.

thanks for that

Good post in principle, but the unfortunate reality is that the average man becomes sexually frustrated if he is not getting laid on a regular basis. Hence, addiction to porn, desperate AFC behavior in the hope of attracting women, etc. Unless you are asexual, you have to get laid regularly to maintain a healthy state of mind and positive outlook on the world.

All that stuff about conquering worlds, creating and destroying civilizations, and setting records in sports sounds great in principle, but you are not going to get very far with that if you're constantly worried about getting laid. For many men, unfulfilled sexual desire is the main obstacle to realizing their full potential. That's just the way nature created us. Our primary drive is procreation - and if we are not procreating, it's hard to focus on other things.

In the Byzantine empire, some of the most accomplished politicians, artists and even generals were eunuchs. One can't help but wonder if these "men" were able to achieve greatness because they didn't have to worry about getting laid (to be clear, I'm not suggesting you cut off your d!ck to achieve true happiness...)

InternalCombustion said:

Good post in principle, but the unfortunate reality is that the average man becomes sexually frustrated if he is not getting laid on a regular basis. Hence, addiction to porn, desperate AFC behavior in the hope of attracting women, etc. Unless you are asexual, you have to get laid regularly to maintain a healthy state of mind and positive outlook on the world.

All that stuff about conquering worlds, creating and destroying civilizations, and setting records in sports sounds great in principle, but you are not going to get very far with that if you're constantly worried about getting laid. For many men, unfulfilled sexual desire is the main obstacle to realizing their full potential. That's just the way nature created us. Our primary drive is procreation - and if we are not procreating, it's hard to focus on other things.

In the Byzantine empire, some of the most accomplished politicians, artists and even generals were eunuchs. One can't help but wonder if these "men" were able to achieve greatness because they didn't have to worry about getting laid (to be clear, I'm not suggesting you cut off your d!ck to achieve true happiness...)

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yes i agree wholeheartedly. But isnt a man defined as a person who will push forward no matter how great the pain, or how hard the struggle? isnt a man defined as a person who will do whats right ( no porn, e.g.) no matter the consequence?

Are you saying that porn is bad?

If thats what your implying, you make me sick.

S.U.R.F. said:

they are not the reason we FIGHT.

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Helen of Troy?

Spot on wit everything mate, well done

S.U.R.F. said:

yes i agree wholeheartedly. But isnt a man defined as a person who will push forward no matter how great the pain, or how hard the struggle? isnt a man defined as a person who will do whats right ( no porn, e.g.) no matter the consequence?

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Only a great would be capable of the feats you are describing. The average man has neither the backbone nor the strength of character to persevere "no matter how great the pain, or how hard the struggle". And most men are average men.

First of all, you're not Pook. Secondly, at least 98% of us watch porn. Thirdly, if you're really only 17, you dont know shyt about shyt yet, but that was good writing nonetheless. I'll bet you get straight A's in English.

horaholic said:

First of all, you're not Pook. Secondly, at least 98% of us watch porn. Thirdly, if you're really only 17, you dont know shyt about shyt yet, but that was good writing nonetheless. I'll bet you get straight A's in English.

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yeah that post is pookish, and my hats off to you bud
you have the balls to tell those pusies up.
i have myself clearly defined, and life will go on, girl or no girl...
yes my inner game was taken care of at 15 years old
we are living in a magical time, when so many things are possilbe, but we the next generation, affront sooo many problems. will it be up to us to make sure that mankind will have a 22nd century?
will there be wolrd peace (or an approximation) or WWIII?
its up to us

thats why bud, when my hour comes, i will proclaim to man to stand up and resolve this ****ty world! and ill round up people like you, brave souls who will face it all, who will DIE to make a diference, for i as a MAN know i can crush all opposition and nothing stands in my way, no institution will be able to stop me

i know i will change this world. first me, than family, firndes and finally the WORLD!

Did you think before posting this that women have changed as well? You talk about how men used to be, conquer worlds, built/destroy civilizations, kill etc, but how were woman when all that was happening? They were staying home waiting for someone to pick them up right? Right! Since they came out to the world and started having opinion about their boyfriend WE as men need to do better so they WILL choose as above others! I know it sounds pretty bad but that's the way it is...

Now, why, in such a forum like this, which is meant to make us BETTER MEN and not better boyfriends has so many posts about what to do with a girl instead of having posts like, my boss yeald at me today and I got pretty furious, should I act like a man and resign? (that's a terrible example I know but that's what got in my mind)! The reason is given by InternalCombustion and is: Unless you are asexual, you have to get laid regularly to maintain a healthy state of mind and positive outlook on the world.

What you learn from here is to stand confident amongst women, which makes you stand confident amongst men too cause that's how your character involves and staff like that ! If you read the bibble you'll understand!

Anyway I know you won't accept it as an answer, but you're only 17 and it's really difficult to understand how strange/hard/painfull is for some people not being able to find a sexual partner! At least that's what I get from this forum and these people here...

Read the bibble... You will see that when learning how to face a woman, you actually learn how to face everyone... (not in every aspect )

DonJuanit0 said:

Did you think before posting this that women have changed as well? You talk about how men used to be, conquer worlds, built/destroy civilizations, kill etc, but how were woman when all that was happening? They were staying home waiting for someone to pick them up right? Right! Since they came out to the world and started having opinion about their boyfriend WE as men need to do better so they WILL choose as above others! I know it sounds pretty bad but that's the way it is...

Now, why, in such a forum like this, which is meant to make us BETTER MEN and not better boyfriends has so many posts about what to do with a girl instead of having posts like, my boss yeald at me today and I got pretty furious, should I act like a man and resign? (that's a terrible example I know but that's what got in my mind)! The reason is given by InternalCombustion and is: Unless you are asexual, you have to get laid regularly to maintain a healthy state of mind and positive outlook on the world.

What you learn from here is to stand confident amongst women, which makes you stand confident amongst men too cause that's how your character involves and staff like that ! If you read the bibble you'll understand!

Anyway I know you won't accept it as an answer, but you're only 17 and it's really difficult to understand how strange/hard/painfull is for some people not being able to find a sexual partner! At least that's what I get from this forum and these people here...

Read the bibble... You will see that when learning how to face a woman, you actually learn how to face everyone... (not in every aspect )

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self+control

self-con·trol   /ˈsɛlfkənˈtroʊl, ˌsɛlf-/ Show Spelled[self-kuhn-trohl, self-] Show IPA
–noun
control or restraint of oneself or one's actions, feelings, etc.

^ this is my reply to the porn comment. self control is hm... a part of being a man right? Cuz after all, on a cold winter night, the woman whine, while the man grinds his teeth and move the **** on

really, jacking off infront of a pixelized screen to women who probably dont even want to be in front of the camera. jeez. porn is bad. so is alcohol.
enjoy that **** in moderation! i used to fkn masterbate 3 times a day, watching porn. ( some , hell, the majority of, ppl here must do that too) THAT IS NOT NORMAL.

I'm talking about the MAN spirit that alot of MALES here on sosuave lack (at the sosuave part of the reply)

"Now, why, in such a forum like this, which is meant to make us BETTER MEN and not better boyfriends has so many posts about what to do with a girl instead of having posts like, my boss yeald at me today and I got pretty furious, should I act like a man and resign? "

No, im not saying that sosuave should be about that. I like the idea of sosuave as something to help ppl get better with women. But for god's sake. we have ppl who have topics like "durrr, should i ask for this girl's phone number". "hurrrrrr this girl gave me a hug, what do i do?!"

Thats not NATURAL, people got laid 40000 years ago, and they had no sosuave. Talking to women should be natural, no calculation and **** like that. Being good with women is a MINDSET. Not a series of TECHNIQUES. Sosuave should focus on the MINDSET. All these pitiful (and frequently reposted) topics come from the belief that "SEDUCTION IS A METHOD", women are like locks, you do this, turn that, spin this, click, clack, bam, her legs are open!??

Fk no...I'm so brainwashed from all of this crap that everytime I talk to a girl. I say something genuinely nice, my brain goes "OH NO, YOUR BEING NICE, YOUR NOT BEING AN *******. BAD BAD." And this is to a girl I dont even like..that way.

This method **** is crack. Emphasize on the lifestyle. Teach the lifestyle. Breathe the LIFESTYLEEEE. Mods should delete every whiny one-incidence topic on this site.

thanks everyone else who commented.

horaholic said:

First of all, you're not Pook. Secondly, at least 98% of us watch porn. Thirdly, if you're really only 17, you dont know shyt about shyt yet, but that was good writing nonetheless. I'll bet you get straight A's in English.

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lol....

I agree he should of never said his age. All that tells me is hes just starting to learn about what being a man is.

Definitely a good writer though.

Hi surf - well written post...

I just wanted to say that I am enjoying my average life regularly banging chicks while watching porn.

Wars and all that great 5hit is for folks who can't get laid.

I'm pretty sure that one night a collegue of yours is going to catch your lonely, horny a55 with your d1ck in a beaker.

Ta-ta...

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lol....

I agree he should of never said his age. All that tells me is hes just starting to learn about what being a man is.

Definitely a good writer though.

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Well I was hitting a bong when I was 17 and could not care less about anything. So he's doing fine by me lol.

i used to fkn masterbate 3 times a day, watching porn. ( some , hell, the majority of, ppl here must do that too) THAT IS NOT NORMAL.

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i like how 98% of the majority is "not normal" in your opinion. :crackup:

Might wanna look up the definition of 'normal.'

Three things I need to clear up:

1.

Why is porn bad?
a) You are watching two/or more people have sex while your sitting on your chair infront of a screen. Does that sound NORMAL? Porn itself isnt too bad. Hey, heres an idea. Porn is NORMAL. Try not watching it for a while. A day? Three days? What...You can't? Its okay, thats also NORMAL. Self control is for keyboard jockeys anyways (proud to be one). Its not like porn is heroin anyways, you can give up porn anytime you want...can't you?

b) Who do you depend on in this world? Your parents, your friends? Do you suck the energy out of these people or others? A man should depend on noone but HIMSELF. So when you cannot stop watching porn... hold up, why do we even watch porn?

SIDENOTE: We watch porn because we enjoy watching good looking attractive WOMEN pounded as they squeal in pleasure? Riiight? Right...

So we watch porn because we like women AND sex. That is normal(no sarcasm). So how do we get sex? We get it from WOMEN. Now... that means if we love sex, we need women. So when we watch porn, we want sex/women. With me so far guys? Its only logic.

Now what happens when we CANNOT stop watching porn? Isn't it the same as being addicted to women/sex?

The analogy is : we are the heroin addicts, women are the dealers.

What happened to depending on only OURSELVES? Porn makes us depend on women. Aren't women suppose to be depend on US?!

My point is : Porn is NOT bad. When you can't control yourself, you have a problem. (You will also notice that you start caring more about what women think, say, etc.)

Guys, you control your hands. They do not magick themselves into your fkn boxers.

So if 98% of you guys watch porn 3 times a week, and I did too once. It is normal, I change my mind, because everyone does it. (thanks horaholic) It's not MANLY.

2.

Which is my second point, Sosuave is not fkn manly. Masculine men get laid, Masculine men get successful. Masculine men are what we are BORN to be!!! Not this ***** ****. People these days (my age, highschool forums, or even older) have no ambition, no spirit, no dreams, no masculine energy! ALL(literally)they want to do is play Halo and smoke Weed like the useless shts they are.

Think I'm lying? Then, please, explain to me, my fellow sosuavers. Why the post "She didn't respond, I have no idea why. Any thoughts? " Gets the same amount of views/replies as this one. That's what I thought.

3.

People might be asking this one day...I'm a total keyboard jockey. I have NEVER gotten laid. Hell, I have never even kissed a girl. Do you know why?
No, its not because I'm ugly
No, its not because I'm short
No, it has nothing to do with my physical appearance, I'm not handicapped.

I always cared what girls said. I had no self esteem. 5 years of highschool, I wasted on getting girls. I neglected my parents, my schooling, my hobbies.

I would hop on MSN everyday at 4 in the afternoon waiting for girls to talk to me, or talk to them, w/e. I watched porn everyday, twice a day, sometimes even three times a day.
I'm proud to say this, I have even watched it FIVE times a day.

As a result, I was a male, but with the brain of a girl. I cared too much. I grew bitter, sad, depressed, angry, destructive. Whatever. I even hated women. But now I realized... what being a man is all about. And thankfully, I still managed to get into a good college. My friends and family are still okayy

I will do everything I wrote in the first post. To the letter. I do not CARE if I do not get laid. I'm not watching porn anyways right now. At least I will have my honour and integrity (dont you guys feel dirty after you watch porn?).

Thats all. I see no reason to continue defending my points, so this will probably be my last post on this thread. Thanks for reading.

Child pornography, gang violence, racism, sexism, poverty, starvation, hatred, and we are sitting here looking at ways to make women LIKE us?

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Pretty ****in true there.

I see your point, bro, but keep in mind that this site is about...well...becoming better with women. To do that you have to stop letting your life be defined by them, but if you're not actively going out and looking for them, you'll probably still not get laid by too many of them. We are all sexual beings, and we all get sexually frustrated if we're not getting it regularly. (Anything below your standards doesn't count.)

Remember that Issac Newton changed the world hundreds of times over, and died a virgin. While I admire everything that the man did, that doesn't mean I would want to be him. Middle grounds are a good thing.

bump, im sad this thread isnt getting more views.maybe the name is off?