Dealing with girl with AFC boyfriend

Jesus, Im sorry guys...i know this topic has been discussed lately but i cant find any posts that relate to my specific situation.

So theres this girl ive had my eye on in one of my classes. i sat by her for the first time maybe 4 classes ago and got her number 2 classes ago. (this is longer then it sounds because this class only meets twice a week and we've had spring break and easter break and i might have missed a class here and there.)
So one day i see shes on facebook and i chat her up.. the conversation goes something like this..

me:hey freckles
her:i hate my freckles!
me:ha..freckles can be cute
her:yea..they can be, but not on me
me:yea, your right
her: thank you
me:lets hang out soon
herkay! when?
me:sometime this week
herk!
her:wait...are you from here(the town that our college is in)
me:yea
hermg..please hang out with me!! i want to know what people from here are like..everyone i hang out with is from STL
me:were awesome
.......something something something
me:do you smoke?
her:yes i do
me:well you might be able to come smoke with us tonight
herkay! i have a study session at 5:30 . when will it be.
me:later tonight
herk, just text me!

so i dont text her all night, while she texts me probably 3 times asking if we are still on. i call her around 1030 and tell her ill pick her up outside her dorm in 10 min.

so my friend and i pick her up and go back to my place. i joke around with her a lot and she laughs at almost everything i say. i use c&f and kino once we are at my place on the couch together.

she digs my crib and thinks my friend is really funny(i purposely introduce him to girls im interested in because they all love him. he a big black dude ive been best friends with since 7th grade and always makes me look good when im around girls)

so we proceed to smoke the chronic and are all high off our asses. we all watch tv and talk a lot. her and i go outside and talk by ourselves(although i couldnt really recall what we talked about) i have a test at 8 am so i really just want to go to bed by now..its already 1 am its going to determine my grade. i take them both home and when i pull up to her dorm she gives me a hug and then gets out..

the next morning around 10 she sends me a chat on facebook saying "hey (my full name) but i wasnt around my computer so i didnt reply. didnt try to contact her the rest of the day.

she also 'liked' my status which was part of a song we had listened to in the car the night before. (nothing to do with her, it was an inside joke between my friend and i.

this morning she texts me 5 min before our class asking if its cancelled or not(which we had already discussed) i told her i thought so but wasnt positive.

so heres the deal..this girl has a boyfriend, but he is from her town 4 hours away. i checked him out on facebook and he is a total AFC. hes out of shape, has a unibrow, wears whack ass clothes, and is always commenting on her facebook *****ing about how she doesnt care about him and that she needs to turn her phone on and answer his calls. she will say something back telling him to **** off and how shes done with his ****, yet later in the day the conversation will be erased. this leads me to believe shes not really that into him. however, her status with him is "married"(which they arent really) and her 'about me' states how much she loves him. thats as much about their relationship as i know. now, i am NOT putting this girl on a pedestol, but she is out of his league from what i can gather. not out of mine at all.
i know i am the better catch. i am way better looking, i drive a nice car, have my own place, am in school, have money etc... please dont think im bragging, because im not...im just saying.
so how should i go about this? i dont know if she is LTR material yet as i have just began testing her, however, i would LOVE to **** her right now. whats the best way to deal with this chump? her and i have a lot in common and i can tell shes into me...this is just something ive never tried before and would like some advice before i go any farther.

Continue hanging out . We don't have a magic pill or spell. Continue meeting her . Get some wine for next time she comes over. Strike while the iron is hot.

falconslax89 said:

hes out of shape, has a unibrow, wears whack ass clothes,

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this doesn't mean sh!t and has nothing to do with being afc.

and is always commenting on her facebook *****ing about how she doesnt care about him and that she needs to turn her phone on and answer his calls.

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this however is afcish. and sad. but is the state of a lot of men/boys.

she will say something back telling him to **** off and how shes done with his ****, yet later in the day the conversation will be erased.

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and so, let it be known - she is crazy. you don't care though... you're gonna change her world eh? show her a real man! a real american hero... captain planet and sh!t....

this leads me to believe shes not really that into him.

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She's not. But she's into the drama he creates with his neediness. which will be problematic in the future.

however, her status with him is "married"(which they arent really) and her 'about me' states how much she loves him.

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none of this surprises me.... this is the way of the insane b!tch.

now, i am NOT putting this girl on a pedestol, but she is out of his league from what i can gather. not out of mine at all.

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If you factor in her mental makeup/maturity - she's probably not out of his league.

i know i am the better catch. i am way better looking, i drive a nice car, have my own place, am in school, have money etc... please dont think im bragging, because im not...im just saying.

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being a better catch for what? a relationship? doubtful... women like having AFCs as BFs and PUA/DJs/Womanizers as FBs.

so how should i go about this?

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you can already fvck her if you want to go down that path. nothing more to it. try it... and i bet you she opens those legs quick...

i dont know if she is LTR material yet as i have just began testing her,

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She's not! But she'll do a damn good job in loring you in and convincing you she is.... what tests do you plan to do on a girl who's drawn to drama, will cheat on her bf, and likes the attention of practically strangers???

i would LOVE to **** her right now.

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you can 4 star her right now! no doubt in my mind about it. unless you're a total fvck up! this is beyond easy.

whats the best way to deal with this chump?

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to worry about your motherfvcking self and not be facebook stalking girls boyfriends to find out how much better you are than them!

this is just something ive never tried before and would like some advice before i go any farther.

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advice = guard your soul and don't let her drain it....

regardless of how much better you are than this man (and therefore use it to justify her actions towards you) - you will eventually run into problems of not trusting her. because those fvcking amazing feelings you have around each other don't last forever... and when they fade and she starts acting out of character - your past with her will blow up!

the catch is - it doesn't matter if she's cheating on you or not - you will still question her every move...

and since she is taken - she will lore you in with flatery.... treating you like you're a real fun guy (because her boyfriend is so boring)... and like you're the best fvck ever (because her boyfriend is so boring).... and that sh!t will get you quick...

experience = i've fvcked over 20 women who were married, engaged, taken in some way... i once got flamed by 80% of this board for posting about fvcking a woman while she talked to her fiance on the phone about buying dishes for their new house....

im not a good guy... and neither are these women...

bukowski_merit said:

im not a good guy... and neither are these women...

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and the difference between men and women is this, a bad man will most likely admit that he's a bad man (unless he's delusional in some way). A bad woman on the other hand will justify all her bad behavior so she feels like she's a good woman.

thanks bukowski...i think you told me what i needed to know!

spot on!
the spot is on you OP, don't get attached to her at all, but keep flirting and attracted if you can, it it happens great, if not, then that's ok too.

With or without BFs, girls will be willing to be seduced.

Agree with B-Merit. Married or "with a boyfriend" they will eventually cheat on you too. F*ck Buddie her and have fun with her as a new regular c*m dumster. NOT LTR material. Over and Out.

boomerick said:

Agree with B-Merit. Married or "with a boyfriend" they will eventually cheat on you too.

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I would go as far as to say it's not a given that she will 100% cheat on you.

HOWEVER, it does not matter!

Once a cheater always a cheater is true, BUT not because a girl will ALWAYS cheat if she has in the past. But because once you view a girl as a cheater - she will always be one in your mind.

Same can be applied to men who are cheated on and take the woman back. In their mind - they will always be questioning every little flag that shoots up.

It's not a healthy way to live... it's not a healthy way to start a relationship. But, like i said - their pull is hard.... Women who are being neglected at home by their men have VERY STRONG feminine energy to release. They can make a man feel like the greatest man walking the planet.... it just doesn't happen as much with single women... mainly because, they get attention by being single....

But yeah... i try to avoid their pull these days.... i'd almost rather be single and not getting anything than be tangled in their web.

Hey man... I really like the way you started talking to her on facebook chat, it's such a modern way of doing things.

I think you should just keep meeting her, watch a dvd together, escalate.

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Hey man... I really like the way you started talking to her on facebook chat, it's such a modern way of doing things.

I think you should just keep meeting her, watch a dvd together, escalate.

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ive come to realize there is nothing bad about using it as long as you keep the conversation short and to the point...you can still joke around and stuff just dont get into some long, random, pointless conversation with the girl.

Ohh so you just keep it short, a bit of banter, then ask her to hang out.

Do you ever do this with girls you don't actually know?

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Ohh so you just keep it short, a bit of banter, then ask her to hang out.

Do you ever do this with girls you don't actually know?

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well to facebook chat them you have to atleast be friends with them on facebook. but like in the conversation above, i had only been around her in class, so i didnt really know her.
sometimes i will see a girl on my friends list that i dont recognize and start chatting her up and do the same thing to her...it has worked several times. just at the end through out a "well i gotta run, let me get your number" and then dont hit them up for atleast a few days..

falconslax89 said:

well to facebook chat them you have to atleast be friends with them on facebook. but like in the conversation above, i had only been around her in class, so i didnt really know her.
sometimes i will see a girl on my friends list that i dont recognize and start chatting her up and do the same thing to her...it has worked several times. just at the end through out a "well i gotta run, let me get your number" and then dont hit them up for atleast a few days..

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Thanks for the response, you seem a cool guy.

Facebook intrigues me, everyone is on it.

Reps to Bukowski for his near-perfect advice in this thread.

The only thing I have to add is my total agreement with a point he touched on... a married or taken girl who is unhappy with her relationship (staying with it out of convenience/comfort) WILL find someone of high value to, as b-merit said, release her feminine energy on. I am saying this from 100% life experience. She will lure you in and make you feel like the absolute man. Then she will do one of two things - either she'll never actually do anything with you, and she just loves the attention/ego-stroke of knowing she's "still got it"... or, she'll get with you and create drama hell because she's either idealized you, or eventually she can also actually demonize you (as a projection of her own guilt) and you can find yourself out on your ass quick.

Proceed with caution, but if you're young and she's hot, I would personally advise you to go for it. Just continue escalating as if she didn't have a boyfriend... if she doesn't really want it, you'll find out soon enough. And if she does, nothing else needs to be said.

so...****ed this girl last night. soooo easy

Nice nice!!!! Don't catch oneitis now.

no way...its not gonna happen haha. just gonna keep screwing her and keep on gaming!

Nice work brother. You struck while the iron was hot.

Now keep her as a fvck buddy and your set.

I miss college man - I used to be able to have those random convos as well and they would always lead to hooking up.

Sorry, a tear just fell from my eye. lol.

tinctrar said:

Nice work brother. You struck while the iron was hot.

Now keep her as a fvck buddy and your set.

I miss college man - I used to be able to have those random convos as well and they would always lead to hooking up.

Sorry, a tear just fell from my eye. lol.

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i feel ya...the next 3 years are for you haha

falconslax89 said:

so...****ed this girl last night. soooo easy

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lol, hard to believe you made a thread asking how to go about it, huh? Young girls are pretty slutty anyway, just keep staying as a cool guy, that's what these young ones want.