Problems With Girls I'm Meeting

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Guys, I just want your opinion. I don't know if I have a problem with closing or what. But to continue a previous post, I meet alot of girls online as well as in person.

Well, within the last month I have formed I would say close to 18 close relationships with girls from an online site I meet girls on (not myspace). I have their numbers, we have done some phone sex also.

I can tell the girls are into me, the problem is that I hear these statements:

"When we meet up for the first time, I have to bring my friends with me for the first time."

"You seem like a player, I bet you say *xyz* to every girl you meet."

"You seem like the type that alot of girls like."

"You seem like you sleep around with alot of girls."

Most of our conversation is light convo, alot of sexual fluff talk, and alot of freaky talk also. We also discuss other general things, but most of the time it's light sexual fluff talk. Not in a weirded out way, but more of a light cool type of way if you know what I mean. It's not off-topic or out there.

There is no rejection, no LJBFs, or anything like that. But the problem is that when it comes to meeting these girls in person they say the above or they try to delay it in some fashion. It's almost as if they are attracted but are not attracted enough, or they are attracted and scared of something, or they are really not attracted at all and just using me to fill up time in their boring lives?

They also don't call me first as much. Usually, I call them first or text them first and then we have our conversations. They don't call me on my birthday, call me just to see how I am, or nothing. And these aren't women you would consider to be slvts, they are regular women between the ages of 20 to 35.

I want some of you guys' opinions because I'm really confused. It seems like the girls are into me, yet, they do not show enough of the signs of a person that is into somebody in my opinion. I've never heard of a girl being into a guy and not calling him or texting him to see how he's doing.

Some of my internal insecurities tell me the following:

1.) They don't really like you, you are just entertaining and they are bored so that's why they are talking to you but they don't seriously like you.

2.) You are not *gangsta* enough and the girls only want gangstas. (This is coming from a common theme in my area where alot of the girls my age typically date the extreme thugs and gangstas in the area. I'm not talking about guys with just *confidence or assertiveness* I'm talking about real life gangstas. Yes, it's a common theme around here and me being a professional guy/college guy, even though I have a lot of street-ness to me and am in no way a non-assertive guy or in no way a bad-dresser or anything like that, it's obvious I don't sell drugs and I'm not a gangsta and maybe that's the reason??)

So guys I really don't know what to do. I haven't honestly gotten a rejection from a girl in a long time. I'll meet a chick online or in person, hit it off, we flirt back and forth alot. and we usually have strong phone game. But it for the most part never makes it past the telephone, and I'm sick of this. The entire "vibe" I get from the women is that they are into me, I know they are because they openly flirt back with me and go along with all of the advances and other stuff I do.

I do have a great sense of humor, so I could see why a girl might use me for entertainment purposes if she's bored, but why wouldn't a girl want to be around a guy that's not boring and she's sexually attracted to?

I'm just lost over here. I should have a girlfriend by now and everything. I don't have none of that. And I just don't know what to do. Hell, if I was getting rejected then I would know the problem but because I'm not getting rejected and the girls are very openly sexually attracted to me, I have no idea why it never gets past the telephone?? And how can you like somebody but never call them?? And how can you like somebody but have no rushed intentions of being with them in person??
 

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Maybe your talking too them too much on the phone. How long/often do you talk to them on the phone?
 

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im not sure but i can say it sounds like a ****load of over analyzing is going on

maybe the sexual talk makes them think you're only interested in sex?
 

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Well first of all you seem to believe women want some specific kind of guy. Women disagree on what kind of guy they think they like, and they like guys they don't imagine they would and so on and so forth. So there is no magic formaula of 20% gangta + 40% CEO + 1 Harkey and 2 vodka martinis...

Second of all, there is no specific thing u do to get girls. It just happens. It's actually so much easier than u imagine it to be, that you're never going to believe what I am going to tell you. You don';t have to do anything to attract women, they will just be attracted like flies to **** when you allow it to happen and clean up your own personal issues and insecurities.

but guys never believe it, they think they need a boat, a technique, a guru, a mysterious vocal command that women can't ignore, and other garbage. They will pick up on this lack of confidence and often it's enough that they won't be attracted despite a near heroic effort to gain their interest.

So the first step is to stop shooting yourself in the foot. Fix whatever keeps you from believing 100% that you are the ****ing **** and women want some. Have an interesting life, pick things u always wanted to do and go do them right away. Climb those mountains, hang out in Tibet, the more off the wall the better, it doesn't matter too much what it is. Dress like a cool, guy who realized whether he looks like a tool or not (ask women if you don't know how to do this). Be honest with people and don't be afraid to tell them straight up where they stand with you. Be aggressive, always assume she wants u regardless of what some bull**** guru says about the direction her leg is pointed. You do that and then they will be attracted and you will do nothing but say whatever comes to mind and the women will want to sleep with you. Either that or you listen to gurus who are full of balony and set your progress back a few years tinkering with all the tricks and wasting time that could be spent effortlessly attracting women.
 
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Guys thanks for the replies. My issue though is not that I'm not attracting them, sometimes it just feels like there's something else in the middle of the relationship that's out of my control.

In one thread of mine on here, I said I think I might be cursed.
In the back of my head, I think it's because I'm not a literal gangsta.

We all know why girls in general like bad boys right? I mean, confidence, assertiveness, a real overall guy, etc. etc. I don't call that a bad boy I call that a real Man, wouldn't you?

Okay, but it seems like certain types of girls want what I described above and over and beyond. I mean, the guy needs to break the law, sell drugs, literally be apart of the local gangs.

I used to be a gangsta and I actually found that women loved me more. Now that I've turned my life around, in school and running a business, I still have my same *traits* but I'm no longer that street gangsta.

And idk, I just feel like there's something else out of my control. If majority of the girls (black) really only want literal gangstas, what am I supposed to do?
 
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I'm thinking about going back into the technique mode. I'm more of a natural inner game guy, but for the most part like I said the attraction is there, we are really close. It's just I want them to move off the dime faster.

I really like women, alot. But not like an AFC, but more like a natural man is supposed to. I can't stand the delays lol.
 

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I'm pretty sure I know where you're coming from and experience tells me you really don't want those girls. You wanna fvck em a couple times, but in the long run you two will have very little to talk about, and she's always gonna have some personal problems she's complaining about that she created by being irresponsible in the first place, but refuses to accept culpability for and needs your advice, time, money, or help to fix. Say hello to Future Single Mothers of America.

Its essentially limbo - you feel your too good to be gettin turned down by the hoodrats (and subconsciously feel the need to prove your better than them, so you still chase), but you've not yet come far enough from where you were to comfortably holler at and bag the upper class women.

Lastly, you probably also have difficulty finding upwardly mobile middle-class women with similarly humble beginnings and long-term goals that are physically attractive to you, as these women often have more of the "Plain Jane" appeal rather than the exotic "Ride or Die Chick" appeal that B.E.T. (Black Execrable Television) has programed (brainwashed?) us young black males to covet.

In a nutshell, when we're used to living in environments of adversity, we often find difficulty in finding motivation and meaning in environments were adversity is much less common and not nearly as intense, and hence have more difficulty and take more time (for lack of better terms) assimilating.

The solution? Meet women in different places and continue to Do You. Continue to build your business, get involved with organizations your business acumen and contact list will benefit from, and most importantly, look at you then, look at you now, and don't let this cold world bring you down. You'll soon notice that the more time and passion you put into doin you, the more that women will begin chasing you, leaving you notes, overtly asking to spend time with you, etc.

You gotta grind to shine so keep it pushin like baby labor. Holl@

P.S. - All the women
 
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