If you are American you know about the womens liberation movement. Now this movement brought women to a level of power that is equal to men. Women now can get the same jobs pretty much as men as seen in the business world and women have the same legal rights. But women's idea of a confident man hasn't changed since the stone age. Now back in the old days women were seen as less then men and were treated differently. That is where chivalry came from, holding doors etc. The fantasy of treating a woman like a princess (yes it is a fantasy that men have) came from the times of the great depression when money was not around at all. Men dreamed of taking a girl out to a restaurant and buying her flowers. This fantasy is still held by many men, However times have changed a lot. The breed of men have changed. Now instead of keeping our manliness we are influenced by the media to act more wimpy and today we are more wimpy than ever. Romance is an idea that is flaunted around too much these days. Girls who are your number ones are girls who respect you and do stuff for you, are the only people who deserve romance. if a woman doesn't respect you for who you are then she doesn't deserve you. If there's any thing you should take from this post it's this. You can't argue with this at all because it much sense. You have to put value in yourself to have others put value in you. Confidence is not only essential for living a happy life but is also key when building relationships. I'm not flaunting the idea that you should be an ******* but you i won't let you believe that you should be a door mat that you let women walk all over you. to quote somebody i don't really know "Mack from your mind not from your waistline"
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I have no problem with being a gentleman. I will open doors and such for my girl whenever I can, but I don't go out of my way for it. I'm not an ******* to her, but I'm not a wuss either. She's a wonderful person and she does respect me and I respect her. I totally agree with the media influencing guys now. I mean, I watched that movie "10 Things I Hate About You" with my girl a week or so ago and that is the definition of being a wimp. I don't want to explain it right now, but the movie is funny and it's funny for the DJ that likes making fun of wimps. I'm not a door mat for anyone. I used to be. But not anymore. I don't put up with bull**** like I used to. I don't allow it in my reality.
rakishness
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nice guys dont want pvssy
They don't want to be aggressive. They don't want to be sexual. Someone here a little while back was trying to tell everyone on this board to stop cold approaching. How girls don't like it..LOL!!! Just an excuse to stay TIMID. They want all bad guys to get all the bangin chicks.
They don't want to be aggressive. They don't want to be sexual. Someone here a little while back was trying to tell everyone on this board to stop cold approaching. How girls don't like it..LOL!!! Just an excuse to stay TIMID. They want all bad guys to get all the bangin chicks.
KingBeef
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THAT'S FREAKIN NONSENSE!!!rakishness said:
It's not that "Nice Guys don't want to be aggressive" it's just that "NICE GUYS ARE SCARED TO BE AGGRESSIVE.....SCARED IS FEAR"
Whether because the fear of rejection, not knowing what will come next, single mother and/or repressed upbringing, etc. It all comes down to layers on top of layers of REPRESSED FEAR....FEAR OF NEGATIVITY, THE UNKNOWN AND FAILURE.
THAT'S THE ROOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS....THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO ELIMINATE.
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KingBeef said:
Calm down.
I was being sarcastic. Every man wants pvssy. It's just the nice guys is too pvssy to go after it. To take the initiative.
The other thing that guys have to avoid is chasing after girls. if you want to get her phone number thats fine but next time give her yours. Then she has to deal with the anxiety of calling you. Also she is calling you so she does the chasing
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High quality women will NOT call guys.
Even if a high quality woman likes a guy, she will require you to take the initiative and then do things to try to disqualify you.
Guys DO need to create at least an illusion of chasing. This should be thought of NOT as needy groveling, but as confidently breaking down her resistance.
Approach the act of chasing as though you know the girl deep down wants to get with you--you just need to get her to that point. Of course, you never verbalize this.
The REALLY smooth DJ's are the ones that keep all our principles in mind while appearing to "court" their target. This combination of traditional "Disney"-ish courtship and non-needy, assertive masculinity is unstoppable--it gives them a "fairy tale" story while triggering their attraction switches. Unfortunately, lots of guys can only do the courtship part.
Even if a high quality woman likes a guy, she will require you to take the initiative and then do things to try to disqualify you.
Guys DO need to create at least an illusion of chasing. This should be thought of NOT as needy groveling, but as confidently breaking down her resistance.
Approach the act of chasing as though you know the girl deep down wants to get with you--you just need to get her to that point. Of course, you never verbalize this.
The REALLY smooth DJ's are the ones that keep all our principles in mind while appearing to "court" their target. This combination of traditional "Disney"-ish courtship and non-needy, assertive masculinity is unstoppable--it gives them a "fairy tale" story while triggering their attraction switches. Unfortunately, lots of guys can only do the courtship part.
Yea it just a lot easier than doing all that **** plus it it 'll make her nervous when she calls you making her want you more. And if she doesn't then you have the rejection isn't even there. and you still have your confidence. this is of course for guys starting out. when you get game then you can pretty much do what ever you want.Jeffst1980 said:
what ever it is thats fine we can't take it back from them but we can overcome this focking wimpy guy idea that has been placed on boys in our society. focking boys pushing baby carriages around and ****. this is our time men to claim our birth rights and ****ing become men!!!!!!!
MavenMI6Agent009
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no more mr nice guy by dr. glover was a good read but not enough for me to personally change my schemas. anyways, im a nice guy because i believe the social programming that society emphasizes on. as long as I have my health, energy, and will power to change im good.