The Don Juan Illusion --- A RANT!

I've come to realize there is no such thing as a "Don Juan." Don Juan as in a guy who doesn't just "get lucky," rather, girls "get lucky" with him.

Feel free to disagree with me but this is my perception of things right now, its probably bound to change 10 years down the line.

Now I have hundreds of friends at other schools, and I've finally grabbed my hands around the concept of the three groups of men who get laid, in high school. This carries over into the real world too, I've learned this from my time in the field. Although I haven't spent much out in the field, I have gained alot of experience in the time I've spent and I've learned alot. Either way, things all work in the same manner.

Three groups of people who get laid:
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1.) The Opportunist. When a girl opens her legs around the world, this is the guy who runs to fill that hole. He doesn't back down, any opportunity to get pvssy he will take it. Now there are extremes to these, like homewreckers and date-rapists, but no matter where on the spectrum, they take advantage of a girl's state and get laid. These are usually the guys who get girls drunk and then fvck them.

I went to a party a few weeks ago and fingered a drunk girl, at least she claimed she was, so in that particular situation, I was an "opportunist." I had never fingered a girl before.

2.) The LTR-boyfriend. Ever seen "The Naked Mile"? The main character fits in this "generalization." These are the guys who constantly get denied by their girlfriend when they try to escalate because she is "not ready." Finally, after a lot of wasted time, they finally get in her guts. Although the most noble way to get in a girls pants, they never realize that the effort put in does NOT equal the result out, unless they go through with getting married with her.

3.) Typical Jerk. Don't really have to describe this guy. Alot of my friends fit in the category. The key is to understand that these guys really aren't "a*sholes"....they could actually be really cool with you, but when it comes to women, lets just say they get what they want. This is what I aspire to be....a cool guy who treats women like sh1t because they eat that up. One of my great friends who's only 15 years old does this and he has some of the hottest girls in his fingertips...they are the alpha males.

It surprises me how much verbal ABUSE these girls take, any logical person would find another guy. But girls choose to get treated like the crap they really are and give up their pvssy to the "jerk" (though they usually aren't jerks), and constantly reject the average male.

No amount of "negs" in the DJ sense, no amount of C+F remarks, no DJ technical ability can bring out this animal in women.

This is what I've come to realize. You could be a DJ in the SoSuave sense of the word and pull numbers and have multiple kiss-closes, but would you get a girls knee's weak? NO. Would she be constantly thinking about you day and night? NO. She may give you pvssy but not in the same way as these guys. I have some friends who have fvcked virgin girls mercilessly for 50 minutes straight, and you can see how much the girl is caught up on him even though he couldn't care less about her.

Human philosophy has evolved for millenia but we are still animals.

Sometimes the truth hurts guys....I'd like to hear your opinions.

That too.

And only alphas can get that. As unfortunate as it is, a don juan can't command such dominance from a girl....she'll just leave.

A don juan puts a girl under the illusion that you are an alpha male. For as long as you can put up that illusion, she's yours.

It all depends on your definition of DJ. Everyone's is different. I think your idea of 'DJ' is what I would call a wannabe PUA.

No amount of "negs" in the DJ sense, no amount of C+F remarks, no DJ technical ability can bring out this animal in women.

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I wouldn't really associate that with DJ as much as PUA. In my opinion a DJ in a natural, in the sense of the world that he naturally attract women, regardless of whether he was always this was or learnt it.

The thing is I KNOW people that come under my definition of DJ. They are nice to everyone and especially their mates, but don't give time to people don't like. They never brag, aren't ****y, they usually are successful yet are very humble about it. Therefore they are both liked and respected, popularity while still being nice. They treat women as equals, but they ahve fun with them, and sometimes treat them like little girls playfully, they are never mean unless they actually don't like them. Yet they get girls like no one I've ever seen. That's basically what I personally would consider something of a DJ.

The thing is that's in my reality. When you meet new people your ideas will expand. You can't separate people up into just three groups in reality. Even in the community there are a huge number of different methods. Mystery, juggler, speed seduction, gunwitch, natural game. They are all fundamentally different yet I am sure they all work. Everything works if you do it right.

I think you might have been exposed to too much mystery method style stuff. And apart from obviously getting real experience, you should look up some material on natural game, sexual framing and alpha attraction.

there are people of ALL TYPES getting laid, the only thing in common is complete confidence in their own identity

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That's gold. You can do basically what you want as long as you are confident with it as well as being congruent and authentic.