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Well, after rubbing it in with my parents of how I like to masturbate (they dont know that I bought a fleshlight yet, it's still in the trunk of the car) all the time my dad is now really pushing me to go out and talk to girls and what not out there in public. (He distracted me from meeting someone from adultfriendfinder earlier, and is now appearantly bothered that I masturbate - whatever). The internet is out as it has proven to be a dismal failure as always.

My dad says that I just have to go up to girls, say hi to them and what not, and then ask them out for lunch (immediate/insant date) immediately, or to ask other girls out that I know in person - or anything away from the internet. I objected since I hate fluff talk, small talk, or any of that building rapport gibberish, but he said I could just cut to the chase and try it out. Ok, what is there to lose?

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If I'm doing this, I may also give a Speed-dating thing a try to, the Christian one, and see how that works out and will try working on people at my church, and see how far out I'll try this stuff. I'm wary of approaching people in public since I don't know if they are attached, or even looking for a relationship or are within my same faith background.
 
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Dude....... telling your parents you love to masturbate. I fell of my chair
I wish you the best.
 
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.....Are you for real?


Your dad seems to know what he's talking about.
 
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It's coming to Feb 20th now, and I'm determined to make some direct approaches. Thus, from now to March 3rd -- ask people out from church, ask a girl out from Herbal Magic, talk to people out in the public and ask them out.

First challenge is to fight off all mental excuses to procrastinate dealing with the issues - because these have been the number one stickling point.
I was thinking of buffering approaches with a mini-condensed bootcamp to warm up first, but think that these are just elaborate excuses to delay and make me feel good about passing opportunities of direct approaches.

If you are determined to approach and close and just do it, but miss the mark say by an inch or two - or even a mile, then you are allot further than if you are just pvssy-footing around with abstract ideas such as boot-camps. You learn more by just missing the mark after taking a determined effort than to chicken scratch around.

No - granted, most girls may have a boyfriend, so the polite way to start is if they are single (assuming no immediate guy is in the area).
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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Luke Skywalker said:
Well, after rubbing it in with my parents of how I like to masturbate (they dont know that I bought a fleshlight yet, it's still in the trunk of the car)
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If my son had the audacity to say this to me - I would kick him in his balls!!!
 
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People can say whatever they want - but March 3rd is coming and I'm going to be doing whatever I have to do prior to that date - every second counts prior to that deadline. Tommorow the race begins.
 
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Luke Skywalker said:
Well, after rubbing it in with my parents of how I like to masturbate (they dont know that I bought a fleshlight yet, it's still in the trunk of the car) all the time my dad is now really pushing me to go out and talk to girls and what not out there in public. (He distracted me from meeting someone from adultfriendfinder earlier, and is now appearantly bothered that I masturbate - whatever). The internet is out as it has proven to be a dismal failure as always.
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this is pretty funny even if it isn't real. just thinking about it makes me get bad images in my mind.
 
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Lol if you DO go to the Christian Speed dating, don't tell them you have a FLESH-Light, rofl.
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...or church, I'm having second thoughts about the Christian speed dating because the age range is 28 - 40 years, and I'm worried it's going to be older women going in there and I have to pay like $ 40. I could approach a much yonger age range for free at church. Why pay $ 40 to risk rejections from people that are likely too old for who I'm looking for anyway?

But then again....some older women could be hot.
 
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Why do I waste my time with you, Luke? Why?


Luke Skywalker said:
No - granted, most girls may have a boyfriend, so the polite way to start is if they are single (assuming no immediate guy is in the area).
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You have no clue. Politeness will never get you laid. Walking up to strange women and asking them if they have a bf is creepy and will get you nowhere. If you want to learn to talk to strangers, then just talk to them, all of them, about whatever the two of you might share or enjoy a laugh about together. There is no goal except to enjoy the conversation. Asking a woman if she is single will make her put up all of her shields immediately, plus it's creepy for many different reasons. Don't be that guy.

Every woman knows that 99.9% of the time, the reason that any given man is talking to her is because he wants to fvck her. You have to make her wonder if you might be that .1% - that will keep her engaged and make her interested in you. Tease her, have a laugh, and leave or at least begin to leave. That is how to make her chase you, making her wonder if you actually might not be interested in fvcking her. Then, if you play your cards right, she will eventually have sex with you in order to validate herself.

And for crying out loud, move out of your Mom and Dad's place. Living at home after 30 is something women laugh at. You are disqualifying yourself for a majority of women before you even meet them.
 
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Very well, B_belt, you may be wasting your time.

My goals is to disprove my dad (approaching at mall, asking people out without any fluff or rapport or game and it will go somewhere), go to Christian speed dating, and ask some girls out in church. I predict an absolute disaster. I just have to go through the motions and prove it.

I have until March 3rd to do so.

I will explore any further game on this at another date-interval. Maybe I'll hire someone on a day-approaching seminar if I get desperate enough, seems that would go further than any advice would since I cant model behaviour after words.
 
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I predict an absolute disaster.

Maybe you want to be right, which is why you insist upon doing everything the wrong way.

If you want success, then at least work a higher percentage routine. None of this 'are you single' needy loser crap. Talk to a girl by teasing her in a good-natured way, make fun of her purse or shoes or something trivial, and never let her know for sure that you like her. Then go for the number because she is fun or you have more to say but have to go. None of this, 'Do you have a bf? ok, good, can I take you to dinner?' That routine sucks, and you will fail with it. The test of whether you actually want to succeed will be which routine you use.
 
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No - granted, most girls may have a boyfriend, so the polite way to start is if they are single (assuming no immediate guy is in the area).
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I usually just present my masculine self over a moderate period of small-talk. I ask them questions about themselves, etc. If the subject of their boyfriend doesn't come up, I assume they don't have one.

And I'm usually right. Generally, if I talk to a girl who is unavailable, she magically lets me know pretty quickly that "her boyfriend" really likes...blah blah blah. They use that as a shield to let you know politely to back off, because they see you as a threat.

unless you're just a wimpy non-threat
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Bible_Belt said:
I predict an absolute disaster.

Maybe you want to be right, which is why you insist upon doing everything the wrong way.

If you want success, then at least work a higher percentage routine. None of this 'are you single' needy loser crap. Talk to a girl by teasing her in a good-natured way, make fun of her purse or shoes or something trivial, and never let her know for sure that you like her. Then go for the number because she is fun or you have more to say but have to go. None of this, 'Do you have a bf? ok, good, can I take you to dinner?' That routine sucks, and you will fail with it. The test of whether you actually want to succeed will be which routine you use.
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Luke, B_B has given you the best advice I could imagine without him being there to show and tell you in person.

Another thing I don't understand is what's with this deadline thing? Your plan should be to keep trying at full effort and not stopping until you get a girl.
 
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You have the balls to tell your parents you love to jerk it, yet you can't ask a girl to have a coffee with you?

I am baffled.

There is enough material that is tried and true on this website, all the tools are in front of you.

You don't always have to succeed, heck you rarely have to succeed with women to have personal success... But you have to try.

If you don't try this time around, then I'm inclined to agree with other replies here.

Also, have you considered just forking out the dough and attending one of Mysteries workshops? Sure it's expensive, but what is the cost on your soul of not having success with women for so long?

I wonder, if we started a fund here to pay for your workshop on the contract that you had the entire thing videotaped... I'm willing to bet we could fund it for you ;)
 
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Why don't you listen to your dad? The man who has a wife and created you? Yet, you still won't listen to us about going out and approaching girls!!? I would say you are hopeless in getting pvssy. You might as well go out and pay a hooker!! Or listen to us and your FATHER and APPROACH WOMEN!!
 
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Quiksilver said:
Also, have you considered just forking out the dough and attending one of Mysteries workshops? Sure it's expensive, but what is the cost on your soul of not having success with women for so long?

I wonder, if we started a fund here to pay for your workshop on the contract that you had the entire thing videotaped... I'm willing to bet we could fund it for you ;)
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That's an awesome idea! Except I would chose another "guru" then Mystery. Maybe Juggler would fit his style more.
Or we could just hook him up with one of the guys on this site. I'm sure someone would be willing to take him out a couple of times for a laugh.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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