A Tribute To The Nice Guys

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Originally posted by Heather of New York:

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and *****ing about what *******s guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl's every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they're at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn't worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing 'serious' between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: 'oh, but we're just friends!' And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.

The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative *****es. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as 'oh, he's too nice to date' or 'he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me' or 'he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn't possibly ask him out!' or the most frustrating of all: 'no, it would ruin our friendship.' Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can't figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I'm going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn't last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you're sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.

Sincerly Heather
 

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Poonani Maker said:
Originally posted by Heather of New York:

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and *****ing about what *******s guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl's every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they're at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn't worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing 'serious' between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: 'oh, but we're just friends!' And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.

The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative *****es. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as 'oh, he's too nice to date' or 'he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me' or 'he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn't possibly ask him out!' or the most frustrating of all: 'no, it would ruin our friendship.' Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can't figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I'm going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn't last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you're sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.

Sincerly Heather
Haha. I bet that Heather woman is fvcking some jerk-a$$ jock and crying later 'cause she wasn't a serious thing to him and was just a jump-off...
 

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The nice guy inside of me committed suicide. Every guy ends up killing that nice guy at some point or another....whether he's 15 and got tired of the HB10 calls him every time she gets put down by her pr1ck of a boyfriend, or he's 40 years old and realize that the one love of his life had been cheating on him for a while because sex with him isn't enough.
 

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Nice Guys are just guys who doesn't flirt. As simple as that.
 

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I was never really a 'nice' guy, well according to the DJ definition. I'm sure I definately would have been if I hadn't found this website. Hell I could barely talk to chicks when I found it. So I was never an emotional tampon or any sh!t like that. I was just a pvssy. Girls never complained to me about their boyfriends, but this nice guy thing sure does seem common. Maybe its a good thing I never had that experiance, but perhaps I might have learnt something from it. In any case I don't really have a grudge against women and haven't had to experiance to much of their bad side.... yet.
 

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I have no sympathy for the "Nice Guy" anymore.

Any and all of them are dishonest with themselves and their female friends.

If you like a girl, make a move on her. Nuff said. From what I've seen, nice guys in general lack honesty.

If you think about it, that's pretty much all most girls want. A guy who is honest about his desires, his motives, and is not afraid to risk what he has, on what he wants.
 

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Don't call me a neo-Darwinist, but I'm honestly thinking that some people are just born "nice," or they've been raised to be really polite/nice and can't really change the habit until something makes them crack and they become legit a**holes from the way women disrespect them. I think its the latter though.
 

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Reguardless how someone has been brought up they always are in control of their own lives. They have the choice to change. The thing is most of them don't see that it's wrong, they think it is right, and there lies the problem.

As for saying someone is 'born' nice, that's the same as saying someone is born evil. It doesn't happen.
 

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redspicyflag said:
I think its more nurture than nature

The way the media portrays how to treat and win a woman

and even your female friends and relatives

women think they know what they want
Right. 16? and you're on the right path already.

I sometimes have to tell my mom to shutup or "please stop" because she's telling me I should do this, I should do that. Women will ALWAYS tell you what you 'should,' what society (not common sense or thinking in tune with your natural environment to save ur a$$ in the moment!) says you should, do. They're so in tune with popular culture. That's why they are weak. I LOVE my mom. She's the best, strong, a women's rights activist sorta though, but she's always loved and 'nurtured' me to the nth degree from the cradle to the grave. But I HAVE to cut. her. off. over the phone if she starts to tell me that I should do this or I should do that. and without stopping like a broken record. Women and pop-culture like to tell you what to do.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
Right. 16? and you're on the right path already.
yeah I started really early

Two years ago every girl I asked out rejected me

So I had enough of that bvll****

And learned

I'm still learning this pickup stuff

Pook's a fav of mine:D
 

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Man, it's dangerous to believe that there are girls who want nice guys.

First, because they are VERY VERY rare. So rare that I've never found one of them.

Second, because they are so rare, that if you find one you will quickly develop oneitis on her. And oneitis leads to insecurity, fear and hesitation.

And third, because if some girl is nice to you, you will idealize her as the "girl who wants nice guys..." and even if she is nothing close to that, you will get caught in the trap, and friend, it's painful to get out of there.
(Saying this because my worst case of oneitis was when I thought that the girl I liked didn't like jerks and was going after nice guys.)
 

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dude i got this on my facebook as a note...got sum intresting reply's. both good and bad. i kno deep down tht that is rlly me. but i'm tryin 2 change it. trust me man have a better attutude and it rlly helps.
 
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