A Woman Tells You Why You Should Buy Her A Drink!!!

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Alot of people on here are extremely anti-buy a girl a drink in their thinking, however that is AFC! The reason these guys look down on it is because they expect women to reciprocate with attention or the booty, or some desired outcome. And they are usually disappointed!

The trick is if you buy a girl a drink, it should be out of sheer "gentlemanliness" not because you are bartering for "goods".

Now I have always felt like a man who will approach a girl out of the blue, should be willing to buy said girl a drink (if she is in need of one). It is just an old fashioned courtesy that implies politeness and respect. It is an easy way to say that you are generous and can provide, if you do it the right way. Do it the wrong way, and it says b!tch you owe me something now, and most HB's will not dig this.

It is a huge turn off if a man is very obviously unwilling to part with $5 or so. It implies either tightwad, or someone who is hung up on feminist issues.

Before you all egg me, here is something that happened last week. An Iqqi field report (remember those!) :p

Instance One - The non drink buyers. For instance this past weekend I was out with my girl, and some guys came up to our table. They were very well dressed in suits, and obviously had atleast ten years on us, but not bad looking or anything. One of them was downright handsome. My friend immediately started to put on the B!tch Face, but most of my friends look up to me, including her, so I took this as a chance to guide her. As the music was very loud I was able to lean into her ear and tell her quickly that a real woman knows how to be polite and converse with anyone who is not an obvious b@stard. After all, we are there to "mingle", and that is the basic idea of mingling.

The guys were very boring, they basically stared at us, made a few very lame jokes, and seemed to have no conversation skills at all, and we were making it easy! The worst part was they just stood there, almost with some kind of expectations! This actually spooked me a little. (At this point I leaned in to inform my friend that we have done what we could, and it is not our jobs to entertain bores!)

She had an empty martini in front of her, and after 5 minutes of awkard silence and stares from the men, I suggested she go get another drink, after all we did just get there and had some loosening up left to do. She got out of her chair, had to say excuse me just to get one of the guys to let her pass, and went a few steps to the bar. Neither of the men offered a drink, or to accompany her - and before any of you ask, she is beautiful, thin, extremely ladylike in style, and just turned 21. A HB7 on some ppls scales, a HBEXO on others. (NEW IQQI TERM - HBEXO is Hot Babe Extraordinary as in not scalable because she is so unique looking).

One of the men actually took her seat! And didn't get up when she came back. I had to get rude, and I informed him to please give her the seat back, and then ceased all communication and eye contact until they finally went away. Needless to say, these men lost our interest and our respect altogether.

That was a long example, and not even the main one that I am going to provide, the alter version.


Instance Two - The drink buyer. The next night I went to a club in the bigger city with two other girls. I don't like that club, and I don't like the guys they know there. I am not the happiest iqqi ever.

However something is different tonight at this club! There are tons of gorgeous men! And women of course, but the men were just eye candilious! After being there for about an hour, I left the group I was with and walked over to the bar, and ordered my second drink.

As the bartender was making it, a guy who just arrived to the club not too long ago slid in next to me, introduced himself as one of my girl's friends, and asked me what I was drinking. He then paid the bartender for the drink I already ordered that I had money out for. Then he proceeded to turn slightly and ask my friend behind me what she wanted to drink. It was last call, so she did take him up on his offer. And he ordered himself a water. While we were waiting for the drinks, he made a few observations/c+f comments about the club, and asked me a few things about myself. I don't remember what, the important things here were:

1. He was funny and intelligent
2. He did not imply that I owed him anything. Not an answer, not conversation, not a dance, not a number. A man usually asks for one of these things after buying a girl a drink.

Instead, he engaged me with wit, then after I had my drink and my friend had hers, we went to the group of ppl we were with. The Drink Buyer did not stick to me like glue. He did ask me to dance at one point, but when I told him I wasn't ready, he left it at that. He did watch me, but he did not pursue me directly. This is all in retrospect, by the way!

Now I am pretty commitmentphobic at this point in my life (just ended a bad LTR), and since I am used to men expecting something from me after buying a drink, I excused myself to the bathroom. He did not follow me, or imply that I should come back even, and I was a free woman still! I did not feel obligated to him at all, and it was a nice feeling.

Once I realized he was not going to hound me for anything, and that he had just bought a drink because he is a gentleman, I was open to him. As a matter of fact, because of the combination of his manners, charm, and wit, I was intrigued! I immediately LIKED him, even. I feel the need to point out here that in a club full of HBGUY8-10's, he was not on that level. Maybe only a HBGUY6 or 7, if I am generous. And he was short. Maybe 5'8 or 5'9., but well built and well dressed. I had maybe 3 other HBGUY9's who were trying to talk to me, but I spent the last 10 minutes conversing with him, and that's when it happened.

He said "let's get out of here." And I went!!! I have never ever left the club with a guy. We sat in his vehicle waiting on my friends to get out of the club so that we could all go to an after hours spot. During this time we talked more, and it was just fun back and forth banter, but he was able to hang with the Iq's wit! I felt like a girl out of one of Senor Finger's Field Reports! He is always running off with the girl he wants, and wooing her with wit.

After that, and I don't know when exactly it happened, but we were totally married. We were inseparable, I did whatever he wanted, he did whatever I wanted, I felt completely comfortable in his presense, and I couldn't get enough of it.

I ended up ditching my friends, going to this man's home, and staying overnight with basically a stranger who lives nearly an hour from my city! I have never done anything like this before! I was not even sure who I was when I woke up the next day! And it all started with this man's Buying a Chic a Drink Mannerisms.

Discuss.
 

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After reading a couple of other posts about drinking on the first date, and women's rules about sex on the first date, I feel the need to say that we did not have sex, lol. I wasn't even going to clear that up, just to leave something to the imagination, however after reading some things, I DO want to be clear, haha.

The reason I did not "go all the way", was because I did not want to have drunken sloppy sex. I liked him and respected him too much! And realized that I liked him enough that I would love to see him again (and again!), and if it goes there, it should go there right. Or atleast not drunken sloppy.

This further added to his classiness and intrigue, BTW, because he did not try to make me do anything I wasn't sure about.
 

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But guys like me dont buy drinks for girls, If I dont need too why would I?

She got out of her chair, had to say excuse me just to get one of the guys to let her pass
*GASP*!

Neither of the men offered a drink, or to accompany her - and before any of you ask, she is beautiful, thin, extremely ladylike in style, and just turned 21.
And whats your point?.....That girl doesnt hold a candle to me .I've got a c@ck, can do 1 armed pushups and can howl at the moon whenever I feel like it.

One of the men actually took her seat!
:up: Right on, but I dont remember going out the other night.

I ended up ditching my friends, going to this man's home, and staying overnight with basically a stranger who lives nearly an hour from my city! I have never done anything like this before! I was not even sure who I was when I woke up the next day! And it all started with this man's Buying a Chic a Drink Mannerisms.
Outstanding, but thats got nothing to do with the age old "conundrum" of buying chicks drinks.
 

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I haven't even read your reply yet (as I'm sure its moot points), I just got really excited to see my old friend tits!!!

How ya been, homey!?
 

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I don't agree with any of this. There are very, very few circumstances where a self-respecting guy should buy a girl a drink. For example, if I'm with a girl who is my friend and she has forgotten her purse or her money, then I will probably get her back for the night under the assumption that she is going to pay me back some time on a different night out. Other situations might include if it's a girl's 21st birthday.

Basically, when it comes to drink buying, I don't ever give the chick preferential treatment. If it's a situation where I would buy my best guy friend a drink, then I'd probably buy a drink for a girl under those circumstances as well.

This is a system that has worked for me for years, and I don't see reason why it should ever be changed. I've even seen some of the sweetest girls you'll ever meet coerce guys into buying drinks for them only to ditch the dudes within five minutes of the bar tender being tipped. This big chick I know even gets away with doing this on a nightly basis, and when I say big I mean like you want to walk up to her and say 'how far along are you in your pregnancy?' She is far from anything you'd want on your arm, and every night out it's a game for her to see how many free drinks she can accumulate. It kind of makes me sick sometimes to hear her brag about her accomplishments in duping loser guys. I've never once bought her a drink, and ironically she has been in love with me for a year and a half now.

I don't mean to be rude or curt iqqi, but buying a girl a drink is one of the foremost things I think a guy should never do. In my opinion, it violates one of the most important rules when it comes to getting women: You never put her on a pedestal. And when you buy her a drink, you're doing exactly that. So if a guy buys a random girl a drink at a bar, he is immediately starting out behind in the count (sorry for the bad baseball analogy).

There's a problem that we run into on this message board sometimes and that's over thinking and over analyzing. Often, some of the posters here will look wayyy too deeply into a situation and examine every detail of a girl's behavior looking for clues of attraction. That is the most common example. But every once in a while, someone will over think and over analyze one of the most basic rules of DJing in an effort to evolve the skill or craft. People don't just do this in picking up girls, it happens all the time in other facets of life. It's human nature to want to improve and want to evolve practices, but I think a lot of times if it isn't broke you shouldn't even try to think about fixing it.

A good example of this is looking like an AFC at a bar and buying a random girl a drink. My advice is to guys on here is to not over think this and continue to playfully brush off girls who try to get you to buy drinks for you.

EDIT: After thinking about it a little bit I guess I could see where a guy might be able to pull this off, but I think it's best to just never do this. There are much better ways to get a girl's attention in a bar.

I was thinking about it and girls quit asking me to buy them drinks probably three years ago. It makes me wonder if I'm giving off a kind of impression that I'm not a chump. I was more of an AFC when I turned 21.
 

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Lol, I shouldn't even respond, but for old times sakes...


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(about the guy not moving out of her way)

That was just retarded of him. If you are in someone's personal space, and they are obviously trying to get past you, you shouldn't need to be told to get the fvck out the way! Noone invited him to our table in the first place, the least he could do was not be retarded.


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And whats your point?.....That girl doesnt hold a candle too me .I've got a c@ck, can do 1 armed pushups and can howl at the moon whenever I feel like it.
(About my description of my friend)

Well of course I wasn't trying to compare her to you, my point was that she isn't an ugly hag or anything.




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Outstanding, but thats got nothing to do with the age old "conundrum" of buying chicks drinks.
(about the general post)


TRUST ME, him buying the drinks like that had a lot to do with how things ended up going.
 

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iqqi said:
I haven't even read your reply yet (as I'm sure its moot points), I just got really excited to see my old friend tits!!!

How ya been, homey!?
You know, the usual and stuff.

You sound well with the new man, but I'm still detecting a slight princess entitlement in the tone of your post. Tsk tsk tsk c'mon iqqi remember where you are, you know better than that.

Buying chicks drinks is still for fags and the socially inadequate btw. Alas it may change where every bozo armed with a copy of "gaming for dummies" stops buying chicks drinks, but fvck I hope not, for your sake and the small percentage of guys who "get it".

EDIT: Oh yeah and before I forget.
It is just an old fashioned courtesy that implies politeness and respect.
Your livin in the past man. So was making my bed and cleaning the skid marks from my undies, and a discipline stick (had to be no wider than 2 fingers I think it was) to keep her in check and show how much we care for her, but that went the way of the dodo.
 

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MikeYikes122 said:
I don't mean to be rude or curt iqqi, but buying a girl a drink is one of the foremost things I think a guy should never do. In my opinion, it violates one of the most important rules when it comes to getting women: You never put her on a pedestal. And when you buy her a drink, you're doing exactly that. So if a guy buys a random girl a drink at a bar, he is immediately starting out behind in the count (sorry for the bad baseball analogy).
I know this (mens attitudes here on this forum), and I usually don't try to argue with anyone here about it, I just have my own preferences, one of them being a man who is not cheap or hung up on feminist issues, as I said before. However after the other night, I thought the guy's way of handling it was so suave, I should share.

Also, I don't think guys are putting women on pedestals when they buy her a drink. I think if it is done with the wrong mindset, then they are expecting something. If they are doing it with the right mindset, they are just being a gentleman, and courtesious. Which is very attractive. Atleast to me.


MikeYikes122 said:
My advice is to not over think that and continue to playfully brush off girls who try to get you to buy drinks for you.
I agree with you here, and about your girl friends who do this. Never buy a chic a drink who assumes you will just because she asks! I would never ask a man to buy me a drink!

There are definately women out there who try to take advantage of true gentlemen. these women are *****s, and should not be treated with the respectful courteseous act of drink buying that I described!
 

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Buying chicks drinks is still for fags btw.

Yeah, I don't disagree.

But I have to point out that the guy was at least smart enough to do it at last call. Then there's no way he has to buy another, and the women are mostly drunk, and they are all about to leave the bar, and thus easy to extract. The guy rolled the dice in a calculated way, and it payed off, at least to some extent. Although if he was that great with women in the first place, he would have gotten laid.

I once had an AW gf in college who was so proud of getting chump guys to buy her drinks that I would take the drink from her and make her go get another. I never had to pay for drinks when I was out with that girl.
 

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MikeYikes122 said:
I was thinking about it and girls quit asking me to buy them drinks probably three years ago. It makes me wonder if I'm giving off a kind of impression that I'm not a chump. I was more of an AFC when I turned 21.

I agree with you here that its a good thing women are no longer asking you to buy them drinks. However keep in mind that the point of my post is not that you should buy a woman a drink who asks, or who expects it. Expectation is the root of all AFCdom.

As a matter of fact, just as I said that an AFC quack who refuses to buy a woman a drink due to feminist bullsh!t is a huge turn off, I'd expect a DJ gent to likewise be turned off completely by a woman who asked for him to buy her a drink in some kind of expecting or belligerent way.

As a matter of fact a girl like that should not even be worth chasing or impressing at all. tell her to buy you a drink first!
 

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I buy women drinks, BUT.

I only ever buy them a drink when i have repoir going and i feel like buying her one!

I never buy a girl a drink to get in the door that is for loosers and 9/10x the bitc* will just take it and say 'thanks' whilst thinking 'another smuck who cant resist my good looks'.

But i have no problem getting a girl a drink who i am getting along with, not to impress but simply because i dont give a fuc* either way.

On the other hand most chumps buy women drinks expecting something back, i buy them a drink only when i feel like it, but it WILL NEVER BE to please the PRINCESS of this world, WHO expect Preferential treatment simply because she has a puss*, which no offence seemed to be a large % of the OP post.

Buying women drinks is in my opinion buying one of the lads a drink, if guys want to have the fantasy that its curtious to by some women a drink, well fanstasy states MOST WOMEN will take THAT DRINK and WALK AWAY and not give YOU A SECOND THOUGHT.

So in closing FUC* WOMEN and buy them a drink when and only when you want to.

Also Iqq you say you dont pander to the feminist, sorry your post has so many feminist brain washed shi*e in it, its almost making my skin crawl.

You also sound like women pretending to be a guy!
Edit re-read the full thing, figures your a girl 100%. i thought i read 'you was a guy' in one of your replies.

Still the post is expected from a women on what 'she expects from a guy'.

Why not buy the MAN a drink?

Real women (my idea of the term) actually dont give a toss about getting men drinks either, but they do it, not to get in the door they do it simply because they want to get the HOT guy a drink who is giving them company! which is always nice, the prissy princess can kiss my as8 in all fairness, there more trouble then there worth :D
 

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Look, if I have been chatting a girl up for the more then 20-30 minutes, Im going to offer a drink when its my round. I would do the same for a friend of a friend who someone in my group bumps into. If she runs off and gets herself one without offering me a drink, then she has set the standard, and I wont be offering. If her mates offer only her a drink on her round, Ill be sure to exclude her is she does not offer me one along with hers

If they are participating in conversation with the group as a whole, and my round comes up, im going to offer a drink. I would expect my mates or colleagues to if its their round. Will I offer her entire crew a drink? Of course not. But to flat out ignore either a man or a woman when you go to the bar or the waiter comes around is nothing other then bad manners if they are part of your social circle, no matter how long you have known them.

Hospitality extends outside your living room folks. Offering strange women drinks is a sign of weakness. Offering someone you just met and whose conversation you are enjoying a drink, man or woman, is polite.
 

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I don't know fuzz maybe the guy is looking for something longer term rather than a one night F? There are guys out there like that ya know... :).

I don't see any harm in what the guy did. If he went into it with no expectations other than talking and seeing where things went? Fine. However I do agree that just buying a bunch of random drinks for women as a way to "hit on" a girl or to try and get in her pants is all kinds of wrong.
 

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You guys are missing the point.

iqqi said:
The trick is if you buy a girl a drink, it should be out of sheer "gentlemanliness" not because you are bartering for "goods".
It's true that most men DON'T, or rather, CAN'T (not out of personal failure, they just don't have the art down) buy a girl a drink without expecting something in return. So it's best if you don't.

I don't believe for a minute that this guy wouldn't have bought you a drink if he didn't want something in return, Iq. But he fooled you somehow, so kudos to him. It's not necessarily a bad thing, since you enjoyed your time with him, but no one does anything "out of the goodness of their heart" or out of "pure gentlemanliness". It IS possible he just didn't give a damn if it didn't work...which is an attitude most guys can learn from...but don't act like he wasn't trying something. :p
 

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iqqi said:
"gentlemanliness"


:confused: It may be just me but this trait doesn't sound like one that is attractive to women other than those who feel that men should put them on top of a pedestal?
 

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Let me ask you this, Iqqi:

Have you ever bought a drink to an unknown man, in a bar or club, without expecting annything?
 

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iqqi said:
I have never done anything like this before! I was not even sure who I was when I woke up the next day!
Haha....that's what they ALL say.....

You went with this guy because he pushed your buttons and made you feel comfortable, NOT because he bought you a drink.

I buy drinks for friends. I don't expect them to reciprocate, but at the same time I don't buy drinks for people who MOOCH.

You are implying that a man should buy a drink for a woman, just because she's a woman. Sounds like SOMEONE has a sense of entitlement. Personally, I don't care for women like that.

And I got news for you....if a guy buys you a drink in a bar he DOES want something. He just played it cool and made you THINK he didn't want anything, and it worked.

In summary- Typical female sense of entitlement, coupled with the typical incorrect female analysis of the situation.
 

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I am sure if he looked like Ernest Borgnine you would have woke up the next morning in post coital bliss.
 

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Lol at some of the critiscism. Its all good in the hood! I understand many men are AFRAID of how they might look if they buy a girl a drink. It is worse than calling a girl too soon, or saying something they really mean, in FEAR that she might think something and run the other way. Thus he is a chump. Ha ha at that thought process.

This post was to help you see that it is not always a bad thing to do.


jonwon said:
On the other hand most chumps buy women drinks expecting something back, i buy them a drink only when i feel like it, but it WILL NEVER BE to please the PRINCESS of this world, WHO expect Preferential treatment simply because she has a puss*, which no offence seemed to be a large % of the OP post.
I said it more than once, you should not buy a girl a drink because she expects it or demands it! That is just as bad of behavior/ thinking from the women, as men having some lame rule against buying a girl a drink. One and the same to me.

I am pretty sure that in my OP I was buying my own drinks...


jonwon said:
Also Iqq you say you dont pander to the feminist, sorry your post has so many feminist brain washed shi*e in it, its almost making my skin crawl.
The breakdown of many common courteseous practices between men and women is feminist.

The FEAR of doing this or doing that is the result of feminism!


jonwon said:
Still the post is expected from a women on what 'she expects from a guy'.
It is not. I am pretty sure it is a post on what happened when a guy did something UNEXPECTED. That impressed me.


jonwon said:
Why not buy the MAN a drink?
I have! I buy ppl drinks all the time. I had alot of loot that night, but he wouldn't even take me seriously. Which was sexy.


jonwon said:
Real women (my idea of the term) actually dont give a toss about getting men drinks either, but they do it, not to get in the door they do it simply because they want to get the HOT guy a drink who is giving them company! which is always nice, the prissy princess can kiss my as8 in all fairness, there more trouble then there worth :D
Well hell, I agree. Same with real men.


jonwon said:
I only ever buy them a drink when i have repoir going and i feel like buying her one!
You said this. This is exactly right! When men do this with me, I can tell why they have offered a drink, and it always makes a favorable impression. I think they have manners and class. Rare these days.


AgonyUncle said:
Hospitality extends outside your living room folks. Offering strange women drinks is a sign of weakness. Offering someone you just met and whose conversation you are enjoying a drink, man or woman, is polite.
Agreed 100%. On both accounts.

Fuzzx said:
As far as I'm concerned you devalued this poor sun of a ***** and showed him that his time was worth nothing as he was obviously trying to isolate you for more than talk. Conversation is free, you can get it on the street, I've never heard of any guy going to a bar or club in hopes of getting a good conversation and respect from a girl. Then again maybe he was gay.
Your response is all about how all he got in exchange for buying a drink was conversation.

1. The post is about how he did not expect anything at all.
2. There actually was no meaningful conversation. Witty back and forth exchanges and chemistry is actually more exciting in the beginning, and may lead to that eventually.

Not that it is any of your business what all happened and didn't happen, (since the post isn't about that), it was in fact mostly "an action date", lol... When I think back on that night... huge amounts of blushing begins to occur...

And yes I was attracted to him, and yes there is an excellent chance I will "do him". I just didn't want to be so drunk when I did! We were WASTED by that point.


squirrels said:
I don't believe for a minute that this guy wouldn't have bought you a drink if he didn't want something in return, Iq. But he fooled you somehow, so kudos to him. It's not necessarily a bad thing, since you enjoyed your time with him, but no one does anything "out of the goodness of their heart" or out of "pure gentlemanliness". It IS possible he just didn't give a damn if it didn't work...which is an attitude most guys can learn from...but don't act like he wasn't trying something.
This is correct! I never said he didn't WANT something. Of course he did! However he never imposed his wants onto me. He never viewed the drink as any kind of unspoken CONTRACT. He merely did it as a way to break the ice with me, and show that he was interested/could afford to/did that kind of thing without a second thought to what other men might think was a pvssy afc move. Which impressed me. Which turned me on.



Frannie said:
It may be just me but this trait doesn't sound like one that is attractive to women other than those who feel that men should put them on top of a pedestal?
Which trait are you talking about exactly? A man who buys a woman a drink out of good mannerisms, or a guy who buys some random chick a drink hoping to get booty or attention?

seth said:
Let me ask you this, Iqqi:

Have you ever bought a drink to an unknown man, in a bar or club, without expecting annything?
I would NEVER expect anything after buying someone a drink, the truth is I don't even understand how men got around to thinking that way to start with. When I buy someone a drink, it is manners/flaunting/flirting/icebreaking, and that is IT. And of course it is usually impressive, to both men and women. I have another girlfriend who always buys drinks for ppl, but she is trying to win ppl's friendships (another example of buying drinks w/ expectations), and they can see right through it.

However it is not that bad because she doesn't get mad if ppl don't do what she hoped. She doesn't get bitter either. She is on the in between line of Buying Drinks for someone the right way.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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