Thought I knew what I was doing

future_strongguy

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Hello, this could be a long post but I dunno yet, and please excuse me because my arms are shaking from my workout I just did.

I'm a skinny young guy who is more concerned with building strength than mass, though I am of course not afraid of gaining mass. A year ago I used to work out during my sports program in a pretty large group. This large group was pretty lazy and rushed through the exercises but I made the best of it. I got a little stronger and bigger and learned good form and stuff.

I spent some time on the internet researching and learning about getting stronger. I realize that you need to train with heavy weight and low reps to get stronger. I came up with this:

Sunday
Heavy Squats, leg extension superset
Seated Calve Raises, 4 strips sets
Crunches (4 sets of 20)

Wednesday
Flat bench press, incline dumbbell flyes superset
Shoulder press, side raises superset
Tricep pushdowns
Crunches (4 sets of 20)

Friday
Wide grip pull-ups, latbar pulldown superset
EZ bar bicep curl, incline dumbbell curls superset
Crunches (4 sets of 20)

All of them 4 sets of 4-6 reps at high weight, unless specified otherwise.

I recently signed up for Lifestyle and began my workout. I did my standard leg workout (though I went lighter on the weight and only did 3 sets instead of 4) and felt great with it. I just wanted to take it slow getting back into the working out scene. I'd say I am pretty near perfect on the form and that is what my old trainers used to tell me.

A couple days later I had my "Part 1" of my free thingy that Lifestyle offers. Basically they try and see my goals and recommend me stuff. Some of it was good, but at times it felt that he was just trying to sell me something. He told me that I needed to eat protein bars or shakes at some specific times that I liked, but what I did not like is that he said my workout routine was flawed. He said that doing this I would burn out my body quickly. He told me that I could not go straight to the "strength" phase and that I needed to take it in steps. He told me the steps are as follows:

1. Tone/hypo trophy
2. Strength
3. Power

He told me that with the special training programs that they had to offer I could achieve my goals (which is to gain 20 pounds of weight in 3 months), but I would need to take it complicated steps.

Maybe he thinks I will give up on it. I know that if I don't get those 5-6 meals a day I will not gain, I know how to push myself, I know how to work out

But now I am confused... If I do these exercises, with perfect form, eat right, sleep right, stretch, etc... will I get the results I want? Or is he just trying to get me signed up to their 2 thousand dollar program?

I'm really confused now because what I thought before was simple has all of the sudden turned out very confusing.


By the way, please don't give me a workout specifically for getting puffed up muscles. I do play a sport that I need to maintain my full range of motion. I don't care if I look how I do now but I can bench 300 lbs (meaning, I don't care at all about getting the girls, I want to play my sport better).


Edit: and I forgot to mention, after our talk we went out and did my workout plan (Wednesday's plan). The only difference is that he had me do reps of 10-15 instead of what I wanted to do (4-6). I felt more and more tired as the workout continued and in the end was not able to finish it. I had barely any time to rest, and he couldn't really make that many recommendations on my form (yea I'm that damn good :p)
 

Warboss Alex

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I dunno what Lifestyle is but it sounds sh!te to me. I can't take any workout plan seriously that doesn't have deadlifts of some sort in it.

Tell the guy to stick it, lift some weight, eat some food.

Post your diet for a critique of that, otherwise choose a routine from 'Where To Start' (in the Vault) and have at it.. none of this superset nonsense. there are some fine strength routines in there
 

BluEyes

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I'd get a gym membership and pocket the $2000 you're about to let him steal. Take a trip to vegas and have the time of your life instead.

You'll get the same benefit for free by reading the resources in the h&f forum, and using a little bit of willpower to apply it all yourself.
 

EFFORT

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2000 bucks for a workout plan? Are you serious? Don't let them sucker you like that man thats insane.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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future_strongguy

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It isn't 2000 dollars for a workout plan. It is 2000 dollars for 36 one hour lessons. I don't feel I need this though. But, I have another question:

As I said earlier, I am not concerned with muscle size. I am more interested in muscle strength. This is the Don Juan forum, so a lot of the people here are more interested in building size (to look sexy for the ladies), but I want to improve in my sport. I looked at the "where to start" post and I see the rep ranges are around 10-15. Surely this is more for hypertrophy than strength right? Would it be smart for me to do the workout I have listed above with reps of 4-6 and sets of 4? I've seen skinny guys at the gym bench way into the 200's. Sacrificing speed, agility, and range of motion for good looking puffy muscles is not what I want at all.

I think it's better to be stronger than I appear than appear stronger than I am!
 

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future_strongguy said:
He told me that with the special training programs that they had to offer I could achieve my goals (which is to gain 20 pounds of weight in 3 months), but I would need to take it complicated steps.
wait a f-cking minute here, you want to gain 20lbs in 3 months? (not gonna happen btw) or you want to get stronger?

it is controlled with calories as Espi said.

I have trainees who wanna get big and trainees who wanna get strong, their routines are 90% the same.. just a LITTLE less volume for the strength guys and obviously less calories
 
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