FR: 5 approaches at the mall today.

So I went to the mall today and did 5 approaches. Here's how they went:

Approach # 1

I see this girl in Abercrombie and Fitch and I approach her.
Me: Hey.
Girl: Hey.
Me: How are you doing?
Girl: Good.

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Not much of an approach here. More of a warmup than anything else.

Approach # 2

I approached another girl at Abercrombie and Fitch who worked there.
Me: Hey, you know what I always found funny about Abercrombie and Fitch? That everytime I walk in here there's bumping techno music playing. Haha, honestly I hear music in here that I'd expect to hear in a club or something.

Girl: Yeah, I guess that's just our atmosphere.

Then we go along with that. And eventually I say...

Me: Yeah, I play guitar, I'm going to a rockstar one day, so maybe one day I'll give you a ticket to one my concerts.

So then I talk about the shows we're doing in marching band and she tells me how she heard of one of the songs.

Eventually I ask her....

Me: So which department store do you think is the best?
Girl: Well Abercrombie ofcourse!
Me: Yeah, but that's kind of biased since you work here.

Eventually she says....

Girl: Well thanks for coming!

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Not that great of an approach.


Approach # 3

So I'm in this store called "Guess" and after walking around a while, I approach this girl who works there.
Me: Hey, I like your green shirt.
Girl: What?
Me: Oh I said I like your green shirt. Is green your favorite color?
Girl: No.
Me: Well, what's your favorite color?
Girl: You have to guess it.
Me: Well, is purple your favorite color?
Girl: No.
Me: Is black your favorite color?
Girl: I don't wear black.
Me: Wow, your a tough one.
Girl: Yeah, I am a tough one.

So I try to change the subject...

Me: So what did you do this summer?
Girl: Oh I worked.
Me: Oh, well I went to band camp and---
Girl: Oh, I have to go, sorry.

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Another nonspectacular approach.

Approach # 4

So I'm in Sephora and this girl who works there comes up to me and asks me....

Girl: Are you okay? Are you looking for anything?
Me: No, but I was wondering, who selects the music for this place?
Girl: The music? I think the head director guy does.
Me: Sweet, because this place has got some pretty cool music in a retro 70s kind of way. Like I could see myself going up to a club and dancing to this type of music.
Girl: Yeah, we have a lot of cool music selections.
Me: So is your job fun?
Girl: Yeah, we get to do a lot of things with make up.
Me: Cool, do you guys make this stuff?
Girl: No--

And she starts telling me about the companies that actually make the stuff.

Girl: Our job is basically to put make up on peoples faces.
Me: Cool.
Girl: So are you buying anything or just hanging out?
Me: Ah, I'm just hanging out.
Girl: Cool, well feel free to hang out here as long as you want.
Me: I will, it's a cool place.

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This one went better than the other two. Had I not ejected I probably could've gotten the number.

Approach # 5

So I'm walking in Banana Republic and I see this girl with a white shirt on. Before that this girl who works there comes up to me and asks "I want your honest opinion does this look good?" and I'm like "Well, it looks okay" and she's like "Thank you". Then I went to approach the girl:
Me: I like your white shirt.
[Girl misunderstands me and says..]
Girl: What wet shirt?
Me: Oh, I said white shirt.
Girl: Oh, yeah.
Me: The bad thing about white shirts though is that it's easy to get stains in them.
Girl: Yeah, I have two already.
Me: Haha, I could see you as the type of girl who goes home, eats dinner and while you're eating dinner, you drop food on your white shirt, and get all pissed about it.
[In a very agreeing tone she says...]
Girl: Mm-hm.
Me: So what'd you do this summer?
Girl: Oh I basically worked.
Me: Worked? That's boring! I actually had a pretty eventful summer, I went to Canada.
Girl: Oh, that's cool.
Me: Yeah, so me and my cousin were in Ontario and he sees this guy who looks just like Prince and I thought it was pretty rude that my cousin didn't say anything to him. Yeah, Dave Chapelle actually has this really funny skit about Prince, have you seen it?
Girl: Yeah.

Then I start describing the skit and she agrees with me.

Me: So what's your name?
Girl: Claudia.
Me: Cool, I'm Mike, handshake?

[She shakes my hand]

Me: Well see ya.
Girl: See ya.

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Probably the best approach tonight.

yo stop taking your appproaches so seriously Dont thinkabout waht your gonna say just go up to her and say the first thing that comes to your mind.The trick is dont think about it just talk. If a girl starts acting *****y just keep going dont actlike your intimidated turn it into something funny. In your convos i can tell your deffinitly trying to build attract her your worrying to much about ****ing up. The thing is man its impossible to **** up with a girl if your confident if you speak with confidence and you are comfortable evrything you say no matter how stupid it is will be music to her ears. Remember women are only attracted to sexuality notanything else you can be the most retarded wierdest out of this world kid if your sexual every girl will like you. Look at all those wierd ass rock stars unless its your thing we all think their wierdos until you see them with hot ass girls. All those wierd ass movie stars have girls it just goes to show if your an animal and you show your sexual women will jump you.

I also wouldn't mention anything about the marching band...but that's just me.

Your better off just saying...

"Nice shoes, wanna ****?"

yo stop taking your appproaches so seriously Dont thinkabout waht your gonna say just go up to her and say the first thing that comes to your mind.The trick is dont think about it just talk. If a girl starts acting *****y just keep going dont actlike your intimidated turn it into something funny. In your convos i can tell your deffinitly trying to build attract her your worrying to much about ****ing up.

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Worrying about f*cking up? Nah, I talk about whatevers in the environment. Her shirt, the music, it's called being situational.

But hey, I'm getting better, had I pushed it further tonight, I could've very well got some numbers. I don't even see most of you guys commenting going out into the field/getting success so I'm not even going to take the comments seriously.

at the mall if u talk to any workers they should be the first ones u approach and the only. like u said, just to get warmed up. u get nowhere with them. they get paid to talk to u.

miniPIMPIN said:

at the mall if u talk to any workers they should be the first ones u approach and the only. like u said, just to get warmed up. u get nowhere with them. they get paid to talk to u.

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Yeah, but as you can see in the 3rd approach, that's really up to them whether they talk to you or not and if they're truly not interested they can just leave.

My analysis of your approach

El: Warning… This post is extremely dense

1st approach:

You should've pushed it a bit further...but anyways good for a warm-up....

2nd approach:

Never approach girls who are working. They are busy... they are tired of guy’s hitting on them all day long... plus they can't stay and talk... they're working... ok....

Moving on:

Opener: excellent
In the rock star thing you talked about... start talking in terms of "we"... see your self together... go in for future advanced projection... excellent stuff...

I don’t think you should go back to talking about “which departmental store you think is best” ... you're literally back to square one...

Start moving ahead.... and get the number....

Even when she says thanks for coming you can say " you seem like an interesting girl to know... gimme your number..."

Approach 3:

Again... same thing... dont open girls who work...

Plus when she said... "You have to guess (the color)”... a better response would be... "Tell me the answer ... your color tells a lot about you"

Don’t jump through her hoops...

Plus when she said... "Yeah ... i'm a tough one".

False disqualify her... tell her “you know... you and i can never be together... we both have a strong need to dominate"(say it with a smile... you're teasing her...this is false disqualification... that means it isn't true...).

Plus reassess your conversation, after you tried to change the subject:

When she told you she worked in summer... you started telling about yourself... WHY??? Your saying "and--" signifies you spoke a bit too much about yourself..... Ask about her experiences... What did she do? Etc etc...

I'll tell you this think bluntly.... People don’t want to hear about others. Most of them are looking for an ear who will listen to them...
Think of this one overall... you didnt make her laugh, youdidn't tease her, you wre abrupt in your convo... no wonder she left you soon..... Capsice??

Approach 4

Again, you backed down in first instance...

When she asked you: Girl: Are you okay? Are you looking for anything?

You should've replied... "Yeah... I’m looking for cool girls.... in believe they hang around here... where do you think i can find them??"

Very rarely... and that’s only a girl with low self esteem would say... elsewhere... (Name a place).

When she said: Yeah, we get to do a lot of things with make up.

You could've said... no way!!! I hope you don’t turn guys into girls by that... gosh I’m scared... [] (Has to be said with a smile)

Approach 5

Girl: Oh I basically worked.
Me: Worked? That's boring! I actually had a pretty eventful summer, I went to Canada.

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Why are you negative??? DONT... STOP IT...

In fact ask her about her work..... You shot down any positive experiences she may have had.... hence YOU will be associated with negative though patterns...

Me: Yeah, so me and my cousin were in Ontario and he sees this guy who looks just like Prince and I thought it was pretty rude that my cousin didn't say anything to him. Yeah, Dave Chappell actually has this really funny skit about Prince, have you seen it?
Girl: Yeah.

Then I start describing the skit and she agrees with me.

Me: So what's your name?
Girl: Claudia.
Me: Cool, I'm Mike, handshake?

[She shakes my hand]

Me: Well see ya.
Girl: See ya.

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You talk too much... let her speak about herself... just guide her...

Plus the "handshake?"... Don’t ask her. Just lay your hand in front of her...you’re supplicating too much...

Plus go for number... it applies to all the approaches above

Finally some good advice. Yeah, I'll try to not so much open to girls who work there, I'll however try to talk to girls who shop there and aren't paid to be nice. I'll also take your advice on overall what to say in a conversation.

yup...

talk togirls who aren't paid to be nice...

plus learn to tease, legpull.. make them laugh..

certain questions ,like "what did you do in summer?" may not be appropriate .. because the first question is .. "why are you asking them??"

dont interview them.. relate to them ..(useful for dealing with both guys and girls..)

or as godfather(the book) says : rejoine with them .. rajione with them

Dude your convos are boring as hell your not willing to let lose yet once you let lose you'll be ok it took me maybe 70 rejections to let lose lol

Well if those so called "boring convos" will get me numbers I'm not sure I even care. Maybe they're just boring TO YOU.

You're doing all right, but you gotta make your conversation more smooth and interesting. Humor is always good, use more C+F.
Also you should ask for some numbers, because whether you do or don't get it, chances are you'll never get another oppertunity to ask for her number.

Cool, yeah, I'll try to implement more of that into my convo. But the thing is is that I'm not a naturally funny guy.

"I'm not a naturally funny guy."

THAT's WRONG!! You're a funny guy man. I always LMAO when I read the thread you created. Probably the only one I read nowaday.

their boring man they souind like 21 questions. Their just trying to be polite They didnt laugh once. I know what your trying to do your just to worried about akwars silences and what she thinks about you forget about those things and just be yourself.

Well if those so called "boring convos" will get me numbers I'm not sure I even care. Maybe they're just boring TO YOU.

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Hahahahah lol if those convos are really the real you then by all means keep doing what your doing dont change it because of what i think but if you know that there boring cause your afraid of being rejected then you better take my advice man and Just free yourself im just trying to help you out and these convos are Borin as **** to me

I don't think he's afraid of being rejected, though I do think he is not being creative enough and is asking boring questions like a trainee interviewer.

maybe.. and in a restricted sense only ... jtrain is right..

your convos may be boring cuz your speaking too much about yourself... she is not being involved in the conversation....ask about her.... involve her...

oh dear god. i miss coming to this site. threads like these... threads like these...

Michele said:

oh dear god. i miss coming to this site. threads like these... threads like these...

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Haha welcome back man always good to see you come through:rockon: