FR: Approached 4 girls at the mall today.

ElStud · Jul 14, 2007

So I was at the mall today and I approached 4 girls. Here's how the sets went...

Approach # 1 "Abercrombie"

So I was walking around Abercrombie for a while and FINALLY worked up the guts to talk to this one black chick.

Me: Hey, I have to ask you a question, which store do you think is better, Abercrombie or Hollister?
Girl: Abercrombie.
Me: Yeah, but that's kind of prejudiced since you work there.
Girl: Yeah, but we mostly sell the same stuff anyways.
Me: So I was in Canada and my cousin saw this guy who looked just like Prince and I thought that was really rude because what if it was Prince...

I basically kept talking from there while she did her work.

At one point I said...
Me: Do you like McDonalds?
Girl: Yeah.
Me: But you don't look like the girl who would be good in bed.
Girl: Okay.

Basically plowed through the set until it ended with...

Me: So do you like Burger King?
Girl: Yeah, I like Burger King, but I really have to get this work done so bye.

Approach # 2 "Limited Too"

I was walking around Limited Too for a while, which must of seemed weird because it only sells girls clothes and I was going to talk to this one girl who works there, but I ended up talking to the other one. This is how it went.

Me: Hey, I have to ask you a question, which store do you think is better, Limited Too or Gap Kids?
Girl: Limited Too.
Me: Well, that's kind of prejudiced since you work there.
Girl: Yeah.
Me: But why do you like it better though? Like why do you feel it's better?
Girl: Well, I think we have a lot of cute stuff here.
Girl: We're better for girls than for guys though.
Me: Yeah, you guys do have a lot of girl stuff.
Me: So I have to tell you this funny story, I was in Canada with my cousin and he saw this guy who looked just like Prince. It was funny because my cousin said he didn't talk to him and I thought that was really rude, because come on, it's Prince! Haha, have you ever seen the Prince skit on Dave Chapelle?
Girl: No.
Me: Oh I got to tell you about that, it was really funny. So Charlie Murphy and his friends are going to play Prince in basketball and you know, since Prince is kind of gay, Charlie Murphy doesn't think Prince will be able to beat him. Haha, in the end Charlie Murphy basically gets his ass kicked by Prince and he was ashamed of that.
Girl: Yeah.
Me: So do you like McDonalds?
Girl: Yeah.
Me: You seem like the kind of girl who would be good for track.
[She laughs]
Girl: No, not really. I play volleyball.
Me: So what school did you play at?
Girl: [Schoolname]
Me: Ah, I was recently there for Excel Tecc.
Girl: Really what Excel Tecc program did you do?
Me: Ah, I did ITP. You know, basically computers and coding.
Me: So do you guys win a lot?
[She laughs]
Girl: No.
[I kino her a couple times]
Me: Well someone doesn't have confidence in their game. You got to have confidence!
Girl: Yeah.
Me: So do you still go to school?
Girl: No, I graduated.
Me: Ah.
Me: So what was your name again?
Girl: Melina.
Me: Ah, I see. I got to go, but first I want to know, do you have a phone number Melina?
Girl: Sorry, I have a boyfriend.
Me: Ah.
Girl: Yeah.
Me: Well I'll see you then.

Approach # 3 "American Eagle"

So I was at American Eagle and I see this nice white girl, with a really nice ass, who works there. I was going to wait for her to head back to the cash register, while she was moving clothes, but I said f*ck it, and just went in. Here's how that went:

Me: Hey, I have a question to ask you, do you think sincerity is a bad thing?
Girl: Uh... what sincerity?
Me: Yeah, I just wanted to know what you thought.
Girl: No.
Me: [Kind of screwed up this line here] Well then, I'm about to say something very bad then. I think you're really really hot.
Girl: Uh... thanks.
Me: So I was in Canada and...

And I basically plow from there. Telling her the Jesus story and the story about when I was in Canada.

Me: So what's your name?
Girl: Um... my name? Aleen.
Me: Aleen. I'm Mike. You may have heard of me, I play guitar. Maybe someday when I'm a rockstar I'll come around you and give you a ticket to one of my shows.
Girl: Yeah, that would be cool.
Girl: But yeah, I've got to try and get all this done by 10:00.
Me: I see. Well, I have to go, but before I go, I want to know, do you have a number?
Girl: Sorry, I have a boyfriend.
Me: I see. Well, bye.

Approach # 4 "The *****"

So I was walking in the mall, around when it was almost closed and there wasn't really anyone in there. Then I see this decent looking weight chick and I followed her until I finally talked to her.

Me: So I have a---
Girl: Uh, I have to leave soon.
Me: So I got to tell you this funny story about when I was in Canada---
Girl: Look, just leave me alone and stop talking to me.

So I figure "F*ck this" and keep walking and the b*tch says "Why are you following me?" and I'm like "I'm not following you". And no I wasn't following her, I was heading towards the nearest stairs so I could leave.

Still not getting any numbers, but it's a lot better than a lot of my previous mall sets. Plus I saw an old friend of mine there, who graduated 2 years ago, so that was nice(Haha, I asked the dude where he went to college and he said he didn't go).

Chicks Just Dig Me · Jul 15, 2007

Yo Man, I don't think you take this seriously at all. I mean, you basically get blown off and you still bother that person. Did you read my approach thread? I approached two girls and got better results than you did and you do this every day. I approached my first 2 girls and got better results than you. True. no number what I didn't get ******* at and with them walking away from me. Here are some problems I see:

1. Your stories are bad. And I mean bad. Hey, I give you credit. You dropped you stupid survey, but I can tell this is so preplanned. Do you like McDonalds, Burger King? Those are boring questions...How bout What do you like to do for fun? Do you play sports? Something along those lines. But, try to find a funny story.
2. When you get blown off, **** them. Don't keep bothering them. Leave them alone and move on.
3. "But you look like the girl that would be good in bed." Thats creepy man. You wouldn't say that to some random girl who you don't have ANY rapport with. That easily scares them away and they think of you as a creepy stalker. Don't say that. Your cold reads have never been good so don't stick with them.
4. You have a regular conversation. Don't even open. Just say Hi My name is (whatever). Just try it. Your ways not working. You are like 0 for 100. Try to change it up a little.

The Positives:
1. Day in and day out, you have balls man. Your approach girls no matter how bad you do and you still keep your head held high. Koodos.
2. You sound like you have awesome self confidence. You don't let these approaches get the best of you. That's great and you are doing well with keeping at it.
3. You don't give a **** what ppl think about you. That's a great outlook on life, something I have not developed.

I thought you were done with malls by the way?

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

Chicks Just Dig Me said:
Yo Man, I don't think you take this seriously at all. I mean, you basically get blown off and you still bother that person. Did you read my approach thread? I approached two girls and got better results than you did and you do this every day. I approached my first 2 girls and got better results than you. True. no number what I didn't get ******* at and with them walking away from me. Here are some problems I see:

1. Your stories are bad. And I mean bad. Hey, I give you credit. You dropped you stupid survey, but I can tell this is so preplanned. Do you like McDonalds, Burger King? Those are boring questions...How bout What do you like to do for fun? Do you play sports? Something along those lines. But, try to find a funny story.
2. When you get blown off, **** them. Don't keep bothering them. Leave them alone and move on.
3. "But you look like the girl that would be good in bed." Thats creepy man. You wouldn't say that to some random girl who you don't have ANY rapport with. That easily scares them away and they think of you as a creepy stalker. Don't say that. Your cold reads have never been good so don't stick with them.
4. You have a regular conversation. Don't even open. Just say Hi My name is (whatever). Just try it. Your ways not working. You are like 0 for 100. Try to change it up a little.

The Positives:
1. Day in and day out, you have balls man. Your approach girls no matter how bad you do and you still keep your head held high. Koodos.
2. You sound like you have awesome self confidence. You don't let these approaches get the best of you. That's great and you are doing well with keeping at it.
3. You don't give a **** what ppl think about you. That's a great outlook on life, something I have not developed.

I thought you were done with malls by the way?

Uh... one girl b*tched at me and she was just that, a b*tch. And you said you didn't get a number, so you really didn't do all that better.

1. Maybe, but I got that 2nd chick pretty interested with my "bad" stories.
2. What are you talking about? I left the set right after they declined the numbers.
3. You say it's creepy and yet the set still went on a while after that.

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

superchill89 said:
**** like that happens... but dude I don't know if you are joking or not because the way you wrote that second convo there's no way you could possibly think that chick was even the slightest bit interested. I suspect you'er some kind of genius troll

and the fact that the set continued means nothing. she worked there and couldn't leave and she was probably too nice to just straight up blow you off right away. look admit that it sucked and just learn from it

stop focusing on little techniques like cold reading, opinion openers, storytelling, being unreactive, push/pull, etc. you are fvcking it up and making a mockery of the whole community. the reason none of that sh1t is working is because you don't know what's normal socially. you don't know how to socialize and no matter what you may say about having lots of friends at school it's so apparent from your posts that you just don't know how to talk to people. i strongly urge you to develop decent social mastery before you even try using techniques because on a scale of 1-10 in social skills you're a negaitive five

Haha, there's no way she was interested? Wow, you're not very smart. If she wasn't interested she could've gone back to doing her little job, she didn't have to stay there and listen to me talk AND respond to me. Plus, she asked ME questions, another indicator of interest. Genius troll? Obviously more of a genius then 'you'er' at spelling.

Heh, social skills at a negative 5? Nah, a person with negative 5 social skills would not be able to go up to a girl and just plow. Assuming they have the guts, they'd probably go up there with a bad frame, and be helluva lot reactive.

Infraction · Jul 15, 2007

Well you seem pretty motivated and thats really good.
You convo's don't seem natural, you start telling a story to fast to soon.
I think the best approaches are made when you start a convo about something you both see.

The whole point of picking up woem is to make it natural, if you seem creepy, weird and etc' it's a problem.

I once was in a small shop and there was girl trying off shades.
I was talking to the clerk and she started to gigle.
So i started talking to her.
And said "What's so funny?"
(with a huge smile)
she said:"I like it how you describe the hat you want".
I smile:"Thanks, are you in a look for new shades?"
She:"Umm, yeah".
I grab a set and give her to try them"Try these".
You see, thats natural.

Chicks Just Dig Me · Jul 15, 2007

Yeah man. You are defintiely relying on this website's techniques for advice. I mean if you think about it, the kids not on this website can prly real in the chicks just through their "born skill", but we won't go there.

You gotta be natural man. I mean, honestly it's so obvious your being fake through your conversations. Try approaching some women and just talk like you would to a friend. You are trying way to hard to pick up women, and not socializing the right way. Seriously, if we had a pick-up contest, I'd win even though I only approached 2 girls in my life. Why don't I approach more? Because I have plenty of friends and just female friends that will keep my occupied for the time being. Will I approach in the future? You bet. And I will not rely solely on the techniques to try to get these women.

I guarantee if you don't use the cold reads, story telling, openers for one day, you will be more successful.

confidence_forlife · Jul 15, 2007

you got bad game VIPER ur a typical white boy though,most white boys are shy like you and GOT NO GAME you need to chill wit me viper in real life ill help ur virgin cracker azz get puzzy

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

confidence_forlife said:
you got bad game VIPER ur a typical white boy though,most white boys are shy like you and GOT NO GAME you need to chill wit me viper in real life ill help ur virgin cracker azz get puzzy

Well no offense but I've been looking at your post and you haven't done anything and the one FR you do have looks completely fake.

Grand Wizzard Alamar · Jul 15, 2007

STOP USING THE SAME LINES ALL THE TIME

Also, If you're more polite you'll get better results.

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
STOP USING THE SAME LINES ALL THE TIME

Also, If you're more polite you'll get better results.

I am polite.

Eternal · Jul 15, 2007

I showed my girlfriend this thread and this was here reply...

Girlfriend said:
as a girl, that crap he says is:
1) creepy
2) trite overused and makes it painfully obvious he doesn't know how to talk to people without a script.
3) awkward as hell

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

Eternal said:
I showed my girlfriend this thread and this was here reply...

You take advice from a girl on how to get girls. Good luck with that. She'll also tell you that you should treat her like a queen and buy you gifts, good luck gaining the money for that. What you did was basically like asking your mother what was wrong here. Funny thing is I could say the same things to your girlfriend and get her. You basically asked her from a "logical" viewpoint what was wrong, guess what, "attraction" isn't really logical.

Eternal · Jul 15, 2007

ElStud said:
You take advice from a girl on how to get girls. Good luck with that. She'll also tell you that you should treat her like a queen and buy you gifts, good luck gaining the money for that. What you did was basically like asking your mother what was wrong here. Funny thing is I could say the same things to your girlfriend and get her.

Like hell...

She's the girl that treats ME like the king. She'll suggest a cheaper resturant than an expensive place. When I take her somewhere nice, a week or two later, she's calling me telling me to be ready to go out and she'll take ME out to a nice place.

If you want to generalize about someone, then I'll generalize about you...

You seem like the 17 year old know-it-all who doesn't want advice because you assume your way is the best way, no matter how many times you fail. You want to believe that you are doing good when in actuality, you couldn't be further from the truth.

With the way you talk in your approaches, I'm surprised Mall Security hasn't been called in.

"I'm busy" = Leave me alone

Be original. You go into an approach with lines planned. That is the worst thing you can do. What's next? If you happen to get a number, are you going to write out a page of stuff to say and have it infront of you when you call? I'm betting "yes."

Touchout · Jul 15, 2007

ElStud said:
You take advice from a girl on how to get girls. Good luck with that. She'll also tell you that you should treat her like a queen and buy you gifts, good luck gaining the money for that. What you did was basically like asking your mother what was wrong here. Funny thing is I could say the same things to your girlfriend and get her. You basically asked her from a "logical" viewpoint what was wrong, guess what, "attraction" isn't really logical.

LOL did you really just try to lecture Eternal? This is KBJ at it's best, in fact I feel like I've read this before somewhere.

I'm going to be honest, your approaches are getting better, but that's not saying much. You need to have an entirely different frame when your talking to these girls, I feel like your giving off nervous, socially awkward vibe when you should be feeling like your just out to have fun, talk to some new people and make some new friends.

Well I know you won't listen to me or anyone else on here, so why don't you post your FR's over at RSD and let Tyler have a go at them?

I'm a frequent visitor over there, so if you post them up PM me here with your username.

Man Man · Jul 15, 2007

ElStud said:
You take advice from a girl on how to get girls. Good luck with that. She'll also tell you that you should treat her like a queen and buy you gifts, good luck gaining the money for that. What you did was basically like asking your mother what was wrong here. Funny thing is I could say the same things to your girlfriend and get her. You basically asked her from a "logical" viewpoint what was wrong, guess what, "attraction" isn't really logical.

Wow.

Eternal · Jul 15, 2007

superchill89 said:
LOL!!! so you're gonna steal eternal's girlfriend by asking her if she likes mcdonalds

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Dude, if you are going to try and steal her, atleast ask her if she likes Arby's Olive Garden better. Show some class.

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

Yeah, you give a lot of advice, but I hardly see you actually 'consistantly' getting any. I would love to argue with you over a girl who was obviously interested, but I see no worth in it. She gave eye contact, she responded, she asked me questions, I don't think you should be calling anyone stupid. My statement stands, she could've just gone back to doing her work, she didn't have to stay there and listen. And she DEFINITELY did NOT have to respond or ask questions, that was coming from her.

You're the same person that said the Jesus story was bad, but then I proved you wrong by getting a ton of interest.

confidence_forlife · Jul 15, 2007

ElStud said:
Well no offense but I've been looking at your post and you haven't done anything and the one FR you do have looks completely fake.

LMAO!

Viper you seem fake also,i just dont believe people's game are that bad i think your trolling and here for entertainment.

You use the same lines all the time and give exuces when people here give YOU good advice which you wont EVER apply to it in real life.

Chicks Just Dig Me · Jul 15, 2007

Sorry El Stud, but their are many levels to be classified on this site? BAFC, AFC, RAFC, PUA, and guess where you fall? Not even in a category. You are below everyone else man. Do you even have friends or female friends? If you do, hang with them for a while and stop wasting your valuable time at the mall, getting rejected and rejected each time. Seriously, you may think you are getting better, but you are not. You are actually getting worse.

Your beliefs are wrong. You are relying on girls ot make you happy. How about you improve yourself. Do a hobby. I like to lift and play sports, hang out with my friends...Do that and stop relying on girls to make you happy.

This is gonna be hard to understand, but stopped the canned material. DO NOT do any of this in the list below--

1. Use an opener (Just say Hi, how you doing, or can you help me with something. You do not need an opener at all!
2. Stop with the interview questions. Do you like McDonalds? Burger King? You fu**in serious man! Who the heII asks that!!
3. Leave the women alone and stop approaching for a while. Be yourself cuz you are way below the normal range of human social skills.

ElStud · Jul 15, 2007

So your going to personally attack me, how mature. You guys haave got to understand your not always right. It's YOUR way and if someone doesn't attract girls YOUR way then they're wrong. Don't even try to lie. You want to rationalize stuff? Then rationalize for me how I got a ton of interest using the "bad" Jesus story or going to up a girl and talking about throwing up. What you can't rationalize it? Yes, because it's not YOUR method of getting women, so if I'm not getting numbers you use that as an excuse to attack me. No matter whether or not I'm getting interest.

"Your beliefs are wrong" yep, just like I said, it's YOUR WAY or it's wrong. Well guess what? I learned it a different way that guys who get consistantly laid use. Don't even give me that "she wasn't interested" bull. She could've just said "Yea" "No" one word answers. You don't seem very intelligent because it's common sense that if a girl responds to what you say with more than a word answer OR ask YOU a question, she's somewhat interested. Don't give me that "she's paid to be nice" bullcrap, she could've walked away and done her job and just listened to me go on. OBVIOUSLY she was interested in what I had to say. You say I'm at the bottom of this so called "Social Calender", and yet I've had long conversations with women before and have gotten interest using sh*t you would label "Socially retarded". Add to the fact that I have a lot of friends and you pretty much lose.

FR: Approached 4 girls at the mall today.

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