Wiping out the competition

Ok I need some help here from the big guns.

I met this girl last week who was totally into me, we really hit it off, which is rare for me. I have every reason to believe that she has a big crush on me, however she is very attractive, and has alot of other men vying for her attention, and giving her what she wants. She is 19, I am 28. She is very intimidated by my "experience" as an older guy, but we hit it off so well, you know how it goes...

I made her earn and practically beg for my number, and she called the next day, which I missed. She left a message, apologizing for being so "all over me" the previous night, and I have not called back, waiting to see if she would call again. (Lol, testing the waters, I know I will run into her again.)

Its been exactly a week since she called, no second call, I know she might think that I am not as interested because she was so obviously the one smitten (really I was the smitten one, I just know how to play it cool).

Like I said I know I will run into her again if she doesn't call, so besides just feeling very impatient, I only have the issue of how to wipe out the competing joes.

I know I have atleast one serious competitor, I am sure there are more...

When I say competitor, I mean the someone I know SHE is into.

So help me out! I need some support, and some good tips.

Call her back ask her out this week. Seems to Gamey to me, or 1 week is a long time espically if she is waiting for a return call..

vitor said:

Call her back ask her out this week. Seems to Gamey to me, or 1 week is a long time espically if she is waiting for a return call..

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Well I know this might sound strange, but I am setting it up for her to ask ME out. She already did before I gave her my number, but the message she left was more of an apology for being on my nuts the previous night, not the ask out I wanted. Understand? It's definately game here, but mine tends to work. If she didn't have other options, then she'd definately have called again by now. But she does have other options to distract her, and I know this. But I am still going to make her "work" for it, she already has the mindstate that I am out of her league, and that is the mindset I want her to keep.

The only problems are my impatience, and the DAMN COMPETION.

So if you don't answer her calls, don't call her back, and don't make any move to see her . . . how is this seductive?

I wanna know where you get this crap. Some people say "wait a week to call her", some say "call her whenever you feel like it". Okay, either way makes sense on some level.

But who says "don't call her or talk to her at all"? I mean, really, who ever suggested that was a good idea? That's just crazy talk.

(BTW, did she say, "call me back"?)

Your best shot is to call her right away, and ask her out somewhere low key.

I am setting it up for her to ask ME out.

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It happens, but you can't depend on it. Wether it's starting to date, starting to have sex, or breaking up, women will just drop hints until YOU do something.

Your biggest problem is yourself and a lack of any balls. You have this hot 19 year old throwing herself at you and you don't have the stones to return her call. Your the reason guys have a bad rap for a hit & run but you didn't even hit it.

When you run into her again, she's not going to ask you out. She's gonna think what a d1ck, he didn't even return my call, now I'm going to show him what he missed out on and flaunt my hot bod to him and not give him sh1t.

Be a man and call her already. Say sorry for not returning the call right away but you had a hectic week. Ask her out. You got her in the perfect position, she's throwing herself at you. Your going to toss it away if you don't smarten up.

a 19 year old is good for one thing and one thing only - getting laid.

so i dont know why you are beating around the bush and trying to play it all cool when she basically is ready to f*ck you now.

what are you waiting for?

its not like you plan (at least i hope not) to develop this in to an LTR and therein are attempting to lay the ground work that will shape how the relationship unfolds over the course of months / years.

she's good for one thing and one thing only, so close the deal already.

You seem to be playing hard to get for no reason at all. Sounds like if you dropped your drawers right in front of her she'd fall to her knees before your belt buckle hits the ground. Like joekerr said, you're beating around the bush for nothing.

Waiting that long decreases interest level if she has other options. Women crave drama. Within the first little while, she may think "what if," but after an entire week, you are completely out of her head.

Yo Bigstik,



Take a hint from your screen name soldier, and whip it out, and TAME her. lol

A woman's interest level is a fragile thing. Raising or lowering it is something that needs to be calibrated CAREFULLY. Always make the strategy fit the girl.

Knowledge of her personality, her OPTIONS, and her age should ALL go into your choice of the manuevers that you choose to run on her. And YOU have ALL of these three variables at your disposal.

You KNOW already that this little chick is an aggressive personality, plenty of other options (ONE you're well aware of), and she is 19 years old. My strategic assessment of your situation is that you are dealing with a woman who can go "Attention Whhore" on you at the drop of a hat. In other words, if YOU don't give her the attention (the BIgstik) that she wants, she will DEFINITELY get a big stick from somebody else.

So therefore, as my fellow soldiers here in the Sosuave Army have already advised you, waiting too long to "engage" this girl will have the opposite effect on her than the one that you want. She has ALREADY practically offered to deliver you the cootchie in a silver-lined To-Go bag-----and WITHOUT you even having to have placed the order.

So dispense with this "I'll make her WAIT, I'll make her BEG, I'll make her CRAWL" tactic, because there's NO need for it. Don't let your own ego get in the way of what could be a thrilling experience.

But as JOEKERR has indicated, a 19 year old is not a bankable candidate for and LTR, so PROTECT YOUR HEART. So having been forwarned, and if you still really want to get at her, proceed with your emotional armor fully fastened on.

So go ahead and whip out your bayonet (but make sure you keep the head of it sheathed, soldier...lol).

If you WANT her...TAKE her...

...she's YOURS.

And oh, ONE more thing, soldier:

NEVER ever worry about the competition. BECOME a man of decisive ACTION and you will find that the competition will instead start worrying about YOU.

I will expect a full, field report on the success of your mission by the end of THIS week.


March on.

Why not put a trail of breadcrumbs from her front door to yours? Do you want to go out with her or do you want "street cred" on the varous PUA blogs and forums? It's your turn buddy. Do SOMETHING.

The only competition that it appears you need to wipe out is that bigstik brain of yours.
When a woman throws herself at you, respond? You did your part already and got results, wth are you doing now? BTW you said you are waiting for her to ask you out, but then state that she already did. AGAIN, WTH???
I am kind of on a tear lately being pissy with people on here, but sounds like you have been reading "the Rules" forum and not so suave.

I admit, my game is really off. Just ended a four year LTR recently (she was an attention *****, who cheated, so I kicked her ass out of my house and my life).

All your advice is right on, I realized this a few days ago. So I texted her with a silly low key message yesterday. She waited like two hours to text me back, and my response was pretty lame now that I think about it. She asked me what was up, and I basically replied "nothing much, bored.", lol.

I am such a tool right now. She didn't respond, so now I think I am just going to not think about it until I either see her (she WILL come to me), or get that random call, now that she does have my number.

And as far as this chick goes, I actually connect with her more than anyone I've met in years, and she comes across as more intelligent and mature than my ex, who was a year older than me! So yeah, I was trying to lay the ground work for something serious, maybe not even now, but down the road. I rarely connect on a deeper level with most biotches, ya know. I can get ass from any chick any night I go out, that is a given for me.

But you are all right, I realized that I am thinking too hard about all this, and I know it is because my game is all jacked up from that LTR.


Thanks for the advice, I will probaly be on here alot now that I am walking the line of AFC.

Well I know this might sound strange, but I am setting it up for her to ask ME out.

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That's stupid. A man is supposed to call a woman. You want a woman to ask you out? You may as well date MEN. You will only find masculine women that way, and even then it won't happen very often.

Take your destiny into your own hands. Say no to hors.

And don't be a prick. Ignoring someone's phone call is lame (like you said, she was just apologizing and not asking for you to call her back -- so you can probably still salvage he situation).

By the way: Read the Book of Pook. Your soul obviously needs some purification from his holy and infallible words.

Obsidian said:

That's stupid. A man is supposed to call a woman. You want a woman to ask you out? You may as well date MEN. You will only find masculine women that way, and even then it won't happen very often.

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No, no my friend. Before my LTR fall from grace, I was THEE Don Juan, I could make YOUR girl take me out to a candle lit dinner, then devour me on the beach in moonlight. We'd send your ass a message in a bottle, saying "Obsidian, don't wait up."

It's just a technique I got, and when it goes that way, they are pretty much mine to steer. It isn't even very hard, to be honest!

She is 19 and doesn't have the wherewithall to be in a good commital LTR.

Joekerr and Victory are right on, you have to strike when she's wet, otherwise it is in one dude's door and out the other, just not yours. She knows it will be a sex no-strings attached based situation. This is why she apologized for being all over you, she doesn't want you to think there would be an LTR between you.

You had a good chance to respond like:

"Yeah, i was thinking about yelling rape with you were draped over me like that"

This is what she was expecting (for you to be sexual).

haha, you're patronizing me about how to pick up feminine women when you admit that your horish girlfriend cheated on you with other guys? Wake up, man; the hor Matrix has you!

It is possible to get a girl to ask you out, but you should never count on it. And if she does ask you out, she may be good-looking, but she's probably still not the type of girl you ought to date. (There are exceptions, but this is a definite trend you should be aware of.) It takes ballz to ask someone out; you don't want a girl with ballz. Look past beauty and search for real femininity.

If I was that girl, I would think that you weren't really interested, and that you didn't take me seriously because I was too young. So out of "fear of rejection", I wouldn't pursue.

You aren't as courageous, without that "liquid courage", eh!? LOL!

What is with that playing hard to get and acting like a princess? How about growing some nuts and taking action?

If a girl is not ready for sex, then its a good idea not to be pushy, but if a girl is looking to be taken, and it is obvious you want to hit it, just do it!

Actually what Bigstik is doing is very effective from my experience. Especially if they get a lot of attention from guys. I think you might be over doing it though. It's either going to pay off for you in full or going to bite you in the ass.