"Final Advice"

Latinoman

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My time is relatively short and after next week my visits (if any) to this forum are going to be reduced considerably to the point that I might not be able to post again. If the "worst" happens and I don't come back then I don't want the last several months to become a waste. I decided to create this thread for you attention. Let's say that if I was to give a farewell advice, this would be the one for this particular room that is visited by younger men and kids.

I choose this particular room for this thread because this thread is designed for the younger members. I have noticed something that in a way I find funny and at the same time pathetic.

I strongly believe DJism (as defined by several of us) is very important in life. Much more important than becoming a PUA or “player” or anything else that relies on tricks or whatever to get a woman’s attention. It is good to have some PUA and player skills as they can come handy in other facets of life. But it is more important to work on self improvement as those tend to be long-lasting.

What would you rather be at 35? The type of man that has to make up a story about his status? Or the kind of man that does not need to even talk about his status, because he ALREADY knows how far in life he already is?

The type of man that is concerned that once the woman gets to know him better she will either dump him or get bored with him, because the "relationship" was built on a misconception about him? Or the kind of man that knows he is the prized and has little concern about this issue?

A man that CLAIMS to be ____ to a woman to gain her attention? Or a man that IS ___ and gets a woman attention?

Always remember come down to one thing: Respect.

Avoid Robotism

What makes men fascinating to women is our ability to improve with age. We already know that most men have an advantage over women in the genes, hormonal, testosterone and any other biological term you would like to use. Therefore, we can reach as young as we can possibly want. But what give us that long range? Genes? Testosterone? No, in reality is our ability to self improved.

I am afraid that the younger generation of “m”en (and with younger generation I am referring to under 30) are learning to become “robots”. And instead of truly learning how to take advantage of the information provided here, men are simply learning how to imitate other men. Disregarding their own path of self-improvement for future generations.

It does not matter how many girls you manage to pick in High School or in College or in your 20s if by the time you are in your 30s…you lose your edge over the ones that managed to have some level of fun WITHOUT jeopardizing their health, fitness, education (or journeyman skill), profession, and career.

Remember, anyone can get laid. But takes a lot of work to sustain the stamp of Prize. I am in my upper 30s and I am currently working on how to move from what I consider male prime years (35-45) into my next level.

Do not misunderstand. It is fun to have girls in high school and in college. But it is a waste of time to obsess over ONE particular woman. It is good to self improve your image and your ability to socialize with people, especially of the opposite sex. It is stupid and ridiculous to try and get the attention of a woman (girl) that has not even given you a second look. And it is sad to taste success for the opposite sex to only see as you reach your 30s and 40s that the best years of your life were short lived.

Be well rounded…and you will become part of the 3-5 men out of one hundred that can live with the understanding that you are the prize.

On advice from women

Going to the issue on making you more attractive for women (you can even call it, “picking women up”). I strongly believe that when it comes to having an understanding of menstrual cycle or dealing with teenage daughters or pregnancy that women are excellent source of information.

But getting information from a woman on how to pick up women? It simply makes little sense. Especially when men and women have a different view and approach to things. Now, I am not saying that some women are bad at giving this kind of advice. In fact, some women are much better at giving this kind of advice than completely inexperience men. But, we have plenty of experience men out there. Interestingly enough, men tend to give some good advice to women on how to understand men motivations. But once again, this is because of the way we (men) approach things.

The best advice comes from those that are successful in the field. Those are men. If you are a medical student, you should not get advice on the correct method of how to treat a patient from the actual patient. Instead, you should get it from other more mature and successful doctors.

My experience is (after years of visiting forums and reading women magazines and dealing with women) is that many women give advice on relationships following one of the following premises:

1-They give the advice based on how she (the one giving the advice) would like to be treated. Completely ignoring that very rarely you find two women to be very similar.

2-They give advice for the purpose of trying to justify something about herself (that could be her age or her status as a single mother or past cheating or etc.)

3-A handful manage to be right on the money because they were either raised with lot of men (brothers, uncles, etc.) and understand male behavior from a more pragmatic point of view, managing to separate emotionally from the question on hand. Very rarely you will find a woman to be consistently giving good advice or for that matter falling in this particular group.

4- And some truly try to help, but simply are as clueless as many men.

All that said I am not against females posting in here. I want to make that clear.

Conclusion

To the younger generation, you are given an opportunity (due to technology) to see what was denied from the more mature generation. That is, forums such as this. You have information. Information is power. But also can be damnation. I do believe much more men can get laid today due to the information and technology provided. But I also believe that “robotism” might take effect. If you come in here asking us how to talk to A particular woman that you saw in the library and is “hot” and has not even given you a second look…then you are not learning anything.

Remember, this could be the equivalent of a High School football star getting all the cheerleaders and then growing up into becoming an overweight loser with no-sex life and no-career. A short-lived experience.

Your choice.
 

Fortunate_Juan

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I hope that you do come back, it would be a shame to lose some one with this kind of insight forever. With wise words like these, we can all take something home. Great post!
 

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Fortunate_Juan said:
I hope that you do come back, it would be a shame to lose some one with this kind of insight forever. With wise words like these, we can all take something home. Great post!
Thanks man.

By the way...my career is the reason why I might not be able post again as I'm moving on to "greater and better" things. ;)
 

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Latino man good luck in your career and your pursuits. I hope you still come by and post once in a while. Your views on woman and life are solid. You are one of the best posters on sosuave. It is a sad day today at sosuave. Latino man is leaving.


Younger guys such as DJF and SKIP can learn a great deal from threads like this.

LATINO MAN YOU WILL BE MISSED.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Latinoman, I disagree with a lot of what you post, but what you've said here is very good stuff.

The forum needs more posters like you!
 

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Many times we disagree with each other on this forum....however, we miss the point.

Many times we believe that some on this forum aren't what they say they are...however, we miss the point.

We miss the point that we all have made it. We all have found WISDOM.

For wisdom is THE key to success, in any field. The hardest part of life is not running on the treadmill, it's knowing how fast and how often to run on the treadmill.

It's discovering the PROCESS. It's discovering the "What To Do."

For we already possess the will "to do" it's just that we lack the "What To Do."

This site provides that system. That system of, "What To Do."

The only thing left is for us to "Do It."

But see, this system that this site gives us...is different from other types of systems.

In the other types of systems, the system requires the guy to try and become like another.....instead, the correct system should be to try and make the guy be more like his SELF.

His best self, his true SELF.
 

DJF or John

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For the quality posters that have come and gone, and have contributed to my life like, Latinoman, understand...I will not let you down.

For I sat in jail a year ago, and we had many, many, discussions in jail about life.

I made a vow that I would NOT return back to jail, and that I would make my life out to be a blessing to the world.

I have grown, succeeded, and contributed greatly.

And to the posters here, that helped me in my life, like Latinoman. Understand....

I will continue to grow, mature, and be the BEST John that I can be.
I will continue to grow in business, with women, in health, and in my entertainment career.

I will make you proud! I will make the hours you spent typing your advice to me on this site worth it!

I will make you beat your chest and look at me and say.....I helped him get there!

I will stand there in the middle of glory and with a tear in my eye look back at you...and say with all of my heart.....

Thank You.

For it is YOU that have helped make me great!

For it is YOU that have saved my life!

For I went through 18 years of pain, low self-esteem, and damn it in my Freshmen year of college I tried to take my own damn life!

But it was YOU that saved me! It was YOU! YOU! YOU!

And you didn't have to do it.....no you didn't. But you did it. And I wouldn't be here today, if it weren't for you.

So to you....I say with tears in my eyes.....

Thank You.

I have 3 brothers, but I have no relationships with them. You have been my brothers. And I'm not ashamed to say that I love you all very much.

There's a special place in heaven for guys like you Latinoman, because only God can save a young black boy like me, through a Internet Discussion forum.
 

Latinoman

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lookyoung said:
Latino man good luck in your career and your pursuits. I hope you still come by and post once in a while. Your views on woman and life are solid. You are one of the best posters on sosuave. It is a sad day today at sosuave. Latino man is leaving.


Younger guys such as DJF and SKIP can learn a great deal from threads like this.

LATINO MAN YOU WILL BE MISSED.
My goal is to be able to continue posting. But the likelihood (as I'm pretty senior in my line of work, although not in Management) is that I won't be able too.

Thanks.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

djbr

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Latinoman, your advice was always solid.

Be sure you dropped good knowledge to the youngsters around here.

I wish all the best for you!
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Latinoman said:
My time is relatively short and after next week my visits (if any) to this forum are going to be reduced considerably to the point that I might not be able to post again. If the "worst" happens and I don't come back then I don't want the last several months to become a waste. I decided to create this thread for you attention. Let's say that if I was to give a farewell advice, this would be the one for this particular room that is visited by younger men and kids.

I choose this particular room for this thread because this thread is designed for the younger members. I have noticed something that in a way I find funny and at the same time pathetic.

I strongly believe DJism (as defined by several of us) is very important in life. Much more important than becoming a PUA or “player” or anything else that relies on tricks or whatever to get a woman’s attention. It is good to have some PUA and player skills as they can come handy in other facets of life. But it is more important to work on self improvement as those tend to be long-lasting.

What would you rather be at 35? The type of man that has to make up a story about his status? Or the kind of man that does not need to even talk about his status, because he ALREADY knows how far in life he already is?

The type of man that is concerned that once the woman gets to know him better she will either dump him or get bored with him, because the "relationship" was built on a misconception about him? Or the kind of man that knows he is the prized and has little concern about this issue?

A man that CLAIMS to be ____ to a woman to gain her attention? Or a man that IS ___ and gets a woman attention?

Always remember come down to one thing: Respect.

Avoid Robotism

What makes men fascinating to women is our ability to improve with age. We already know that most men have an advantage over women in the genes, hormonal, testosterone and any other biological term you would like to use. Therefore, we can reach as young as we can possibly want. But what give us that long range? Genes? Testosterone? No, in reality is our ability to self improved.

I am afraid that the younger generation of “m”en (and with younger generation I am referring to under 30) are learning to become “robots”. And instead of truly learning how to take advantage of the information provided here, men are simply learning how to imitate other men. Disregarding their own path of self-improvement for future generations.

It does not matter how many girls you manage to pick in High School or in College or in your 20s if by the time you are in your 30s…you lose your edge over the ones that managed to have some level of fun WITHOUT jeopardizing their health, fitness, education (or journeyman skill), profession, and career.

Remember, anyone can get laid. But takes a lot of work to sustain the stamp of Prize. I am in my upper 30s and I am currently working on how to move from what I consider male prime years (35-45) into my next level.

Do not misunderstand. It is fun to have girls in high school and in college. But it is a waste of time to obsess over ONE particular woman. It is good to self improve your image and your ability to socialize with people, especially of the opposite sex. It is stupid and ridiculous to try and get the attention of a woman (girl) that has not even given you a second look. And it is sad to taste success for the opposite sex to only see as you reach your 30s and 40s that the best years of your life were short lived.

Be well rounded…and you will become part of the 3-5 men out of one hundred that can live with the understanding that you are the prize.

On advice from women

Going to the issue on making you more attractive for women (you can even call it, “picking women up”). I strongly believe that when it comes to having an understanding of menstrual cycle or dealing with teenage daughters or pregnancy that women are excellent source of information.

But getting information from a woman on how to pick up women? It simply makes little sense. Especially when men and women have a different view and approach to things. Now, I am not saying that some women are bad at giving this kind of advice. In fact, some women are much better at giving this kind of advice than completely inexperience men. But, we have plenty of experience men out there. Interestingly enough, men tend to give some good advice to women on how to understand men motivations. But once again, this is because of the way we (men) approach things.

The best advice comes from those that are successful in the field. Those are men. If you are a medical student, you should not get advice on the correct method of how to treat a patient from the actual patient. Instead, you should get it from other more mature and successful doctors.

My experience is (after years of visiting forums and reading women magazines and dealing with women) is that many women give advice on relationships following one of the following premises:

1-They give the advice based on how she (the one giving the advice) would like to be treated. Completely ignoring that very rarely you find two women to be very similar.

2-They give advice for the purpose of trying to justify something about herself (that could be her age or her status as a single mother or past cheating or etc.)

3-A handful manage to be right on the money because they were either raised with lot of men (brothers, uncles, etc.) and understand male behavior from a more pragmatic point of view, managing to separate emotionally from the question on hand. Very rarely you will find a woman to be consistently giving good advice or for that matter falling in this particular group.

4- And some truly try to help, but simply are as clueless as many men.

All that said I am not against females posting in here. I want to make that clear.

Conclusion

To the younger generation, you are given an opportunity (due to technology) to see what was denied from the more mature generation. That is, forums such as this. You have information. Information is power. But also can be damnation. I do believe much more men can get laid today due to the information and technology provided. But I also believe that “robotism” might take effect. If you come in here asking us how to talk to A particular woman that you saw in the library and is “hot” and has not even given you a second look…then you are not learning anything.

Remember, this could be the equivalent of a High School football star getting all the cheerleaders and then growing up into becoming an overweight loser with no-sex life and no-career. A short-lived experience.

Your choice.
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