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Where do I find nice, down to earth girls?

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Here's the deal I'm 23 but I'm not into going to clubs, partying, going to bars etc., I don't have a problem with others doing it but it's just not my thing anymore, now I'm really more into just going to dinner, or going to family-oriented activities (mini-golf, bowling etc.) once or twice a week, I don't like constantly going out or staying up til crazy hours... damn im getting old.

Problem is im never able to meet other girls like this my age, maybe one or two a year and that's just not enough to work with. The ones I do find are usually crazy new-age/religious chicks or hideously overweight.
I want to get away from the whole high-maintenance thing from now on, I just want a down to earth girl that I can joke around with, hang out with etc. Someone that is mature and playful, not slutty and loose.

Is there a good chance of finding women like this under 30??? I haven't had much luck
 

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Do you have any hobbies other than the typical time wasters? Why not sarge the women there?
 

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Well my main hobbies are all stereotypical guy things, main one is bodybuilding and i like mixed martial arts, but i have yet to find a cardio bunny that isn't the typical party-chick... and the ones into serious bodybuilding usually look like men. Watching MMA, thats really my time with the guys, never ran into girls wanting to watch that.

The few times ive found women like this that led to a good relationship it was never out of common interests though, just similar personalities, I like a girl that's into girly things not into my stuff. It's always been totally random though. For an easy lay you can always go to a club and pull some game, to find the type of girl I'm looking for it's like going through a triathlon.. or maybe im looking in the wrong places.
 

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Most girls who are single will go clubbing, and to bars. Its natural, its what people who are single and young do to fill in their spare time. Once they have a serious boyfriend, they will stop going out most of the time, only on a birthday or occassion they will go out. So dont worry, most girls at clubs are not alcoholics and party animals. Just find girls your physically attracted too in a club, date them, and see what their personality is like. Eventually, you will find one your looking for.

If you dont like going to clubs full stop, work, university, are the most likely places to meet people, or through friends. Other than that, cold approaches or through hobbies are the only way.
 

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You can find a LOT of girls who aren't into clubs/bars. Do you do any sports? (not weekend sports like mini-golf, but actual sports like soccer, football, tennis, rock climbing, etc)

If you do, join a co-ed club or team, lots of healthy (ie. not fat) girls who aren't alcoholics or druggies. If you don't do any serious sports, then you should start anyway.

If you have no dignity, you can do ballet, lot of girls there, but you'll become the town faggot (defeats the purpose of picking up women!)
 

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diplomatic_lies said:
If you have no dignity, you can do ballet, lot of girls there, but you'll become the town faggot (defeats the purpose of picking up women!)
You sound like the person that made fun of the male cheerleader that had sex with the entire cheerleader squad? ;)

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your main problem is that you are sterotyping people... just because a girl goes to the club now and then doesn't mean she isn't down to earth, and just becuase a girl isn't into clubs doesn't mean she isn't a slut.
 

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KillingTime said:
Here's the deal I'm 23 but I'm not into going to clubs, partying, going to bars etc., I don't have a problem with others doing it but it's just not my thing anymore, now I'm really more into just going to dinner, or going to family-oriented activities (mini-golf, bowling etc.) once or twice a week, I don't like constantly going out or staying up til crazy hours... damn im getting old.

Problem is im never able to meet other girls like this my age, maybe one or two a year and that's just not enough to work with. The ones I do find are usually crazy new-age/religious chicks or hideously overweight.
I want to get away from the whole high-maintenance thing from now on, I just want a down to earth girl that I can joke around with, hang out with etc. Someone that is mature and playful, not slutty and loose.

Is there a good chance of finding women like this under 30??? I haven't had much luck
Here's a reality that I think you might be having a hard time to accept - most (not all, mind you) sexually attractive women in their 20s love to party. That doesn't make them loose, that doesn't necessarily mean they even like to go clubbing often, but they like to engage in as many social events as possible.

Most hot women subconsciously understand they're on the clock to rise up the social totem pole as quickly as possible to land the best possible husband. They know that the best available marrying men don't tend to marry chicks much older than 30. This is what drives that impulse to constantly socialize, which includes constantly wanting to go out.

Now, it would be unfair to cast all women in this light, as some women out there are intelligent enough to understand that if they take good care of themselves, they can maintain their sexual marketability well into middle age. But I think what's conflicting with you, KillingTime, is that you're looking for an attractive, highly feminine woman who wants to settle down when she is in her prime years for elevating her social status. Remember, men and women age completely differently. Call me crazy, but you're looking for a woman that's oblivious to her conditions in life, and that's a very low-probability find.
 

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KillingTime said:
Well my main hobbies are all stereotypical guy things, main one is bodybuilding and i like mixed martial arts, but i have yet to find a cardio bunny that isn't the typical party-chick... and the ones into serious bodybuilding usually look like men. Watching MMA, thats really my time with the guys, never ran into girls wanting to watch that.

The few times ive found women like this that led to a good relationship it was never out of common interests though, just similar personalities, I like a girl that's into girly things not into my stuff. It's always been totally random though. For an easy lay you can always go to a club and pull some game, to find the type of girl I'm looking for it's like going through a triathlon.. or maybe im looking in the wrong places.
Alright, I'm with 'ya. I'm also into women with girlie-girls looks but they need to be low maintenance and athletic (tough combination). You may want to look into women who are into the arts, especially dance (maybe dance teachers). Also, at the club check out some of the women in either the yoga or pilates classes. I'm not suggesting take the classes, just notice the women who are in there. Also, start stopping by some of the health food stores.

It's definitely hard to come across women with just the right combination in everyday sarging, they tend to be in one extreme or the other. For my criteria I have more success plugging in the qualities into an online dating site and having it do the work for me. In the meantime I still hang out with some women who are partiers, some who are athletes, some who are new age intellectuals and others who are princesses. It keeps me from getting bored.
 

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KillingTime said:
Here's the deal I'm 23 but I'm not into going to clubs, partying, going to bars etc., I don't have a problem with others doing it but it's just not my thing anymore, now I'm really more into just going to dinner, or going to family-oriented activities (mini-golf, bowling etc.) once or twice a week, I don't like constantly going out or staying up til crazy hours... damn im getting old.

Problem is im never able to meet other girls like this my age, maybe one or two a year and that's just not enough to work with. The ones I do find are usually crazy new-age/religious chicks or hideously overweight.
I want to get away from the whole high-maintenance thing from now on, I just want a down to earth girl that I can joke around with, hang out with etc. Someone that is mature and playful, not slutty and loose.

Is there a good chance of finding women like this under 30??? I haven't had much luck

Church. Seriously.

"All the major players go to church"

Line from the movie "Two Can Play That Game"
 

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Re:

"Classy" girls will usually go to...

-Upscale expensive bars.
-Restaurantes and occasionally nice ones.
-Any bars their friends work at.

Here's my GUIDE to chicks in the social scene...

1) Go WHERE You want to go. If you like women who read, go to bookstores and just greet them. It will take time, as I don't see them overloaded, and you MUST approach when you're there, but at least you going directly TO the market you desire to "penetrate."

2) Spam your options around. Classy girls will have equally classy friends. And by classy, they either don't sleep around at all, or if they do, it never goes that far. My gf fits that category. I met her through my cousin, she truly was "the girl next door." I'd think most guys would want someone like her...she's dress up in mini skirts, no panties, and cooked dinner, while serving me drinks. She shows up with some mini gift, or a coffee. She's very thoughtful. How I meet more women is just...marketing. I'm not afraid to use the internet, bars, clubs, bookstores, friends, family...whoever, because it increases the odds of finding someone you want to meet. But I'm also relentelessly picky, so I NEXT at the first sign of BS.

3) You can't be afraid to meet women, ANYWHERE. Just b/c a woman doesn't fit the normal protocol of where you'd meet her, doesn't mean you shouldn't approach. And vice versa. Women ALWAYS want to be approached. It's the inherent trait in men that attracts most women and is responsible for 50% of the initial attraction. It shows you're on her LEVEL. And she wants an EQUAL.

4) On locations...skany girls roll with skanky girls. Why? Because they're the only types that can truly tolerate each other w/out talking excessive shyt. Classy girls will look down up skanks. My gf lived with 10 girls; the skanky types were on the outside looking in. If you want easy girls, hot or not, try sketchy places, like bars that aren't reputable ( i have a few dive bars), or bars that invite alot of bands. I used to roll in the band scene b/c of friends...and girls LOVE to follow local bands, just to say they know them. They often invite friends so they have SOMETHING to do that night. The women will crowd the front in large groups. There it's easy, b/c every1 has such a good time, the girls ALWAYS overdrink, so at the least you can number and kiss close.

If you want the LESS THAN EASY girls, then go to nice places, representative of you. Girls who don't want skanky guys, at least publicly, will go to such places that require a modicum of dressing up. Girls that I've known have a preference for such things. And girls who hardly drink or don't drink, will only go to places they feel comfortable in. I dated a beautiful italian girl years ago, and she didn't drink. hated feeling out of control, but if she had friends who were drinking, it was only top notch, safe places with good music.

Your typical club with lots of reggae, rap, house/techno, will attract the dancers, and a variety of ethnicities. My local club/bar, houses nearly 200 people, of all races. Dancing is about 50% of the scene, and people roll up in decent cars, but the area isn't nice, and it's not well lit. So girls go in groups, and normally have friends meeting them. The rougher girls might roll in groups of 2, b/c they're ok with such things. Yet, the girls are, well sexier by appearance. I've seen some ridiculous women there. At a place like that, its 3 seconds or your dead, b/c some other guy will approach, and you'll have to use some PUA stuff to pull her.

At a more irish pub, or martini/jazz bar, it can be more subtle, slow paced, generally an older crowd, and sometimes they serve food. There you can get the women who are friends just meeting for drinks, or the couples, or the pregamers. Rarely would a big group of 21+ girls hit that spot in the middle of their night. In Boston, it's usually some small irish pub that's the pregame spot, then places like the Roxy, the Rack, or other larger places with a varied scene. Even Ned Devines, Gypsy, etc. I haven't rolled through that in awhile, and it kinda bores me anyways, but that's how it was, and it's what I hear from girls who do it now.

If you align YOUR LIFE with for YOURSELF, you WILL attract the girl you want. Everything you are, will send out msgs to find her. Your daily habits will cause you to bump into the kind of girl you want. Going to sketchy clubs when it isn't where you want to be WITH her won't help. Occasionally you can find a girl outside of her comfort zone, where she says "I normally don't come here," but that's a rarity, and more the reason why to approach ALOT of girls, then cut the ones you don't want.



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Thanks for the advice. Yea i definitely am quick to eliminate options, i have a bad habit where I won't even give someone a chance unless I can tell from the start that they meet EVERY one of my criteria.

In my entire life I have only found one girl that met every criteria I ever looked for, but it ended for reasons beyond our control. this was her and my ideal in general:

- Very funny, playful and silly... this is one i can't compromise on, i need a really playful girl that isn't afraid to act kind of goofy with me and that i can just roll around laughing with, life is too short to act serious unless totally necessary
- Smart
- Beautiful & classy, not HOT in a skanky way, no thongs showing etc.
- Non-drinker/smoker
- Old fashioned and very close to her family, doesn't like to stay out to late, prefers to be home with them etc., seems like an innocent little girl yet when she is with me has the dirtiest mouth and is always horny

That's it, and I will find that again somehow, somewhere... heh that would make a nice ad
 

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Church. Seriously.
Whenever I'm near a church my eyes burn and my skin feels as if it were flesh melting off my bones. It only happens when people come running out of chanting and flicking water on me.... Eh....:confused:
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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KillingTime said:
this was her and my ideal in general:

- Very funny, playful and silly... this is one i can't compromise on, i need a really playful girl that isn't afraid to act kind of goofy with me and that i can just roll around laughing with, life is too short to act serious unless totally necessary
- Smart
- Beautiful & classy, not HOT in a skanky way, no thongs showing etc.
- Non-drinker/smoker
- Old fashioned and very close to her family, doesn't like to stay out to late, prefers to be home with them etc., seems like an innocent little girl yet when she is with me has the dirtiest mouth and is always horny
you do realize you've just described the dream girl for about 99% of the male population right? nice job finding a niche market, and good luck with the competition.

women can act however the hell they want to act cuz theres always some lonely dope willing to trade his integrity for pussi. she can change her attitude and behaviour any time she wants, youll probably go your lifetime without meeting a girl who starts that way and stays that way.
 

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i love hearing that church line. how many of you guys have actually grown up in a church community? it's full of divorced single moms looking for suckers or socially conscious women pushing their daughters to church to find a status boyfriend. theyve been trained to hold out on you and bait you into marriage, as soon as u pop her cherry she'll tweak out and fuk every guy on the block.

church is not the place to be.
 

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Good luck finding a girl that isn't high maintenance and likes girly things...
 

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what is your job prospects? it might be a good idea to look into contruction work, they are typically the most adept at hooting and hollering at hot babes.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28017

Report: Economically Disadvantaged Men More Skilled At Communicating Attraction To Women

Lower-income men, Schoen said, have a variety of phrases at their disposal to clearly and concisely communicate their attraction to members of the opposite sex. Among them are, "Slow down so I can get a look at you," "Mmmm, you are lookin' fiiiine today," and "I wouldn't mind a piece-a dat."

The study found that 95 percent of men who earn less than $18,000 a year were able to loudly and publicly voice their approval of specific body parts on women. By contrast, a paltry 3 percent of men who earn more than $75,000 a year could do the same.

"Whether the woman was black or white, rich or poor, cheerful or profoundly depressed, these men were consistently able to get across the message that they would enjoy engaging in intercourse with her," Clarke said. "Their requests to 'let me get up on it' or 'give me a little sugar, honey' were unfailingly clear, regardless of who the woman was or her emotional state at the time."

Lower-income men were also seven times more likely to ask women questions. Among the queries noted in the report: "Where you going all dressed up so sexy?," "Where did you get a pair of legs like that?," and "Hey, baby, wanna suck my root?"

"All I had to do was walk down the street to notice the discrepancy in communication proficiency between rich and poor males," Schoen said. "While well-to-do men would steal furtive glances at my chest, less well-off men would loudly and confidently state their opinion on the matter."

"These men did not simply say, 'I like your breasts,'" Schoen said. "They used a vast array of terms: tits, jugs, knockers, knobs, headlights, titties, ta-tas, cans, hooters, boobs, boobies, bazooms, rack, mounds, maracas, milk cans, milk bags, yabbos, fun bags, slappies, coconuts, jabungos, melons. The full list, which is included in the report, is nine pages long."
 

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Yeah.. thats because those men have no class, and they're probably idiots which is why they make less than $18,000 a year. Good luck trying to compliment a woman or even turn her on by using any of those words on your list.


On second thought.. maybe I should look and see that its a joke from the onion..
 
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