I posted a week ago about the girl that was getting divorced. I had been talking to her for about two months and I tried to get her number and told her once her divorce was finalized that maybe we would go out and hang out. In comes this guy two weeks ago, they start talking and I guess he is more aggressive (and doesn't care that she is married) and tells me that she fuvked him last night. I guess her divorce finalized the day before. Then says that I didn't ask her out or didn't pursue her enough. Which is complete BS. And she knows it. I went off on her. I said I really don't care who she fuvks, I'm not her husband or bfriend, but please save the guilt trip that I did something "wrong" when she refused herself because she was married. Pretty much told her to go fuvk herself. I made her feel like a sluvt. I am really pissed at this. She apologized and said she didn't mean it that way but that it was just the timing. Whatever. She really disgusts me. I told her just be honest and say she liked someone more. Not, "hey, you didn't try hard enough!" Even though I did, considering she was still married. I'm thinking I'm no longer going to talk to her after this. Any thoughts???? I'm no longer attracted to her either. I saw the guy she fuvked and he is nasty. She insists that she was just horny and all that. But I know better, she gave him her number not to me. Then she has the audacity to blame me. Any thoughts??? I couldn't help going off on her. I just thought it was rude and totally fuvked up that I get a guilt trip for nothing. It's more like she was interested in him more.
Wow, listen to this bullshivt I heard from her. I need your advice...
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She punked your a$$. Plain and simple. She got the reaction she wanted. She's now made you her girlfriend whom she can talk to.
Tell her she needs more experience with guys and if she asks about you and her tell her "I'll think about it". smile. And move on from her.
Tell her she needs more experience with guys and if she asks about you and her tell her "I'll think about it". smile. And move on from her.
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NO, I wasn't expecting anything. But to give me a guilt trip and make feel like I did something wrong was not ok. I had to say something. She was making it seem like she fuvked someone else because I wasn't aggressive enough in pursuing a married woman. lol
Your problem is that you stood there giving that woman the chance to deliver her guilt trip (one of womankind's favourite pastime). Never ever give them that pleasure! As soon as you detect the BS, just turn around and walk away.
Yeah, it will be hello and goodbye from here on end. She will probably think it's bothering me, but this is more about pride and disgust. Don't want to talk to someone liket that. I don't want negativity in my life. Ridiculous. It's amazing how horribly self centered and lying some chicks can be. Instead of saying "I'm not interested". They make it seem like you fuvked up something. lol Just crazy. I had a great weekend other than that though.
jophil28
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This ^^Jitterbug said:
Falcon, what do you expect from a woman who could not even leave a husband and a marriage behind her with at least a little respect and dignity..
When that woman was not yet divorced , she was auditioning new men . You were one of the applicants, but you didn't land the job and now you are pissed.
Yes, she is out of line in blaming you, BUT after all you volunteered to wait your chance to nail a divorcee as soon as the ink dried on her nisi.
I told you before that divorcees are risky business.
Frankly, your hanging around her waiting for your 'opportunity' was a chump move.
She did not even choose a high value guy it seems.
She (like all women who are recently divorced) will choose the guy to fukk who gushes over her the most.
Her ego needs to be fawned over made her do it.
Thanks Jophil. You are correct. But wrong on one thing. I did not hang around. I had conversations with her. I was never asking out directly, never hanging by a word, in fact, I was sleeping with other girls (One this past Saturday). I was just flirting with her. I respected the marriage. At no point I was hanging around her every word. It was just one of those "maybe in the future". I always thought, "maybe when this girl divorces her husband, I'll ask her to go out sometime." Little did I know that this bitvch was banging half the town before even her divorce documents were faxed to local courts. haha This is soooooo funny and sad..............I'm so afraid I'll marry someone like this.....This type of women scares me.......She even has a three year old daughter at home......
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I'll tell you what...I really can't explain it, but I know the feeling. I've been through this before.
It's one of the reasons I really don't "trust" women. They'll completely 180 on you. They'll act like they're in love with you, then meet someone else and be swept away on a whim...then they'll "blame you" for not being good enough for whatever reason. Typical female behavior...make a dramatic and irrational (possibly even immoral) shift in behavior, then invent some story after the fact to justify it.
Until you f**k a girl, you really can't trust anything she says. Until you've "hit it", you are just another pawn in her game of retard's chess. Once you've been up in her, she still may mess with you, but she will take you seriously...because she can't find a way to justify sleeping with you unless you're someone who "really matters".
Until you've f**ked her, you are just another suitor who can be tossed aside at a whim, or used to gratify her ego or whatever else she wants to use you for.
It's one of the reasons I really don't "trust" women. They'll completely 180 on you. They'll act like they're in love with you, then meet someone else and be swept away on a whim...then they'll "blame you" for not being good enough for whatever reason. Typical female behavior...make a dramatic and irrational (possibly even immoral) shift in behavior, then invent some story after the fact to justify it.
Until you f**k a girl, you really can't trust anything she says. Until you've "hit it", you are just another pawn in her game of retard's chess. Once you've been up in her, she still may mess with you, but she will take you seriously...because she can't find a way to justify sleeping with you unless you're someone who "really matters".
Until you've f**ked her, you are just another suitor who can be tossed aside at a whim, or used to gratify her ego or whatever else she wants to use you for.
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She's crazy, there's no other reason for why she would say that to you. And by crazy I mean BPD, HPD, or just plain old attention horing and causing drama.Falcon25 said:
My advice is to run, make her chase, then pump & dump at some point in the future. She's NOT relationship material.
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Obviously, this woman is not relationship material...
But, I think she is speaking the truth when she says you didn't try hard enough.
You took her number and told her, "maybe we'll hang out after the divorce is finalized"- you were being respectful, but this is a weak number close. Guy #2, as much of a sleazeball as he might be, knew how to push her buttons and break down her defenses, and that's why she slept with him. She didn't "like him more," he just was more persistent.
Most guys don't realize how IMPORTANT it is to actually PURSUE women. They mistakenly believe that rejection is permanent, rather than just a temporary setback. I am certain that when guy #2 initially tried to take her out, she gave him the same line about her divorce. However, instead of letting her control the frame, he kept plowing until he reached a hook point. It WAS an issue of timing; he got to her first, at a time when she was emotionally vulnerable.
Now, obviously what she did isn't very ethical, and you are better off without her in your life, but instead of lashing out in anger at them, you should examine what you could've done differently to get the desired outcome. That's what pickup is about; learning from your mistakes. Clearly, she was into you at one time, so it really came down to logistics. If you had set up an innocent daytime meeting with her and then escalated, she might've allowed things to "just happen." Remember- women are supposed to take the passive role; it's on YOU to create a space where seduction happens seemingly spontaneously.
But, I think she is speaking the truth when she says you didn't try hard enough.
You took her number and told her, "maybe we'll hang out after the divorce is finalized"- you were being respectful, but this is a weak number close. Guy #2, as much of a sleazeball as he might be, knew how to push her buttons and break down her defenses, and that's why she slept with him. She didn't "like him more," he just was more persistent.
Most guys don't realize how IMPORTANT it is to actually PURSUE women. They mistakenly believe that rejection is permanent, rather than just a temporary setback. I am certain that when guy #2 initially tried to take her out, she gave him the same line about her divorce. However, instead of letting her control the frame, he kept plowing until he reached a hook point. It WAS an issue of timing; he got to her first, at a time when she was emotionally vulnerable.
Now, obviously what she did isn't very ethical, and you are better off without her in your life, but instead of lashing out in anger at them, you should examine what you could've done differently to get the desired outcome. That's what pickup is about; learning from your mistakes. Clearly, she was into you at one time, so it really came down to logistics. If you had set up an innocent daytime meeting with her and then escalated, she might've allowed things to "just happen." Remember- women are supposed to take the passive role; it's on YOU to create a space where seduction happens seemingly spontaneously.
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This is all pretty much spot-on. But a lot of this, too, is WHEN you catch her. You could try for a month persistently, get pretty far with her, but never quite get her horny enough to drop the panties, then some guy could just catch her RIGHT at the peak of her estrus and BAM, she f**ks him and forgets you.Jeffst1980 said:
But if you DON'T f**k her when she's looking to be f**ked, someone else will. She'll go back and get it from her soon-to-be-ex if she has to.
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You were warned my friend, but you had to find out for yourself....
I explained to you that married women getting a divorce are BAD NEWS most of the time. This one proved my point. They are ready to explore even before they are divorced. Sounds like the case here too.
Now it is time to move on and file this one away as a learning experience. Under the file just remove this woman out of it.
I explained to you that married women getting a divorce are BAD NEWS most of the time. This one proved my point. They are ready to explore even before they are divorced. Sounds like the case here too.
Now it is time to move on and file this one away as a learning experience. Under the file just remove this woman out of it.
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Best sex I ever had was with a woman who was "in the middle of a messy divorce".SoldMySoul said:
Peace and Quiet
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
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squirrels said:Best sex I ever had was with a woman who was "in the middle of a messy divorce".
Yeah, me too!!! And the worst mind fvck I have ever had too!!! These women never really seem to disappear totally from your life either. Popping back up when you thought they were gone for good.
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That's why I answered her honestly when she asked if she would ever see me again.SoldMySoul said:
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squirrels said:That's why I answered her honestly when she asked if she would ever see me again.
I hear ya!!! I, like our friend, Falcon, learned the hard way. Lessons learned! It was like winning at the casino. Man you think you can keep hitting it big and then BAM! You lose! That loss is way worse than the big win.
From now on it is hit it quit it with these types.
I feel just like you now. My trust with any woman is damn near NOT believing any of them. Hard to trust anyone for that matter.
Jeffst1980 said:
She never gave me her number. I asked. She said "he checks my phone". I fuvked a married woman before, I won't do that again. Not morals, but personal choice. She pushed me away everytime I tried to pursue her. She shot me down and said "wait till I'm divorced". You don't need to over analyze this. It was just simply she was interested in the other guy more. I am not going to seduce, game, or pursue a married woman. That's not me. I will not do that again.
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Falcon25 said:
See the part here? It's important BECAUSE:
Sorry Falcon, but it's not BS. The difference between you and him is that he didn't care whether she was divorced or single, he went after it. You were happy to sit there and "WAIT". He probably plowed right through every single test and the fact that he didn't care is what turned her on.
The suggestion of "We can wait til the divorce finalizes" is one of an LTR.
Why would you have to wait for one relationship to end unless you were wanting to pursue a relationship of your own?
In her mind:
YOU = NEXT RELATIONSHIP
HIM = GUILTLESS FB
And as a sidenote, you REALLY expected a woman to place the blame on herself???
NEVER treat a married woman as an LTR, ALWAYS as a FB. If she's willing to cheat on him, she'll do it to you eventually and even if she doesn't... you'll have that doubt on your mind.
If she can't place the blame on herself, of course, you're next on the list of suspects even if you didn't commit the crime.