How an innocent massage means game over...

I keep seeing and reading about how guys are "afraid" or don't know how to escalate the situation when out with a woman.

I tend to think of myself as a viper...cunning, watching, waiting, quietly sitting in the shadows until the prey comes into sight, not even aware they are in danger, inching their way closer and closer until the one quick and lethal strike where the prey is captured...its how I also approach most first dates...the woman ends up walking right into the trap I have set for them, and before she knows whats about to happen, its too late...

Easiest way to get things started after a drink and some bantering, maybe 15-20 mins, sometimes less depending on the vibe i get from her, where you maybe grab her hand and comment on the cool rings she is wearing, etc...I always go something like "Oh, those are some cool rings/jewelry(necklaces if you want to be bold) you got, let me take a look at them" as I grab their hand/wrist, neck or chest area...get her comfortable to your touch to set her up for the kill:

Tell her she looks stressed and could use a nice massage and that you give the world's best massages(doesn't need to be true), all women love massages, I have NEVER have a woman turn one down. This is so easy it should be banned in the 50 states and 125 countries around the world...

Have her sit in front of you, and start massaging her shoulders and neck area. After a minute or two whisper in her ear "how does that feel?"(I would skip this but this would be a good bridge for you to the next step if you aren't used to it and can get some practice whispering in a low, deep voice), and she should tell you it feels great or something like that...

Then move her hair over her ears and keep massaging her shoulders/neck, maybe even stroking her hair a few times as you do it... then move your face closer to her neck and smell it---like a animal smells a person...its something instinctual that will get her turned on...smell her neck, her hair and then whisper in her ear how good she smells as you bring your arms around her and pull her back into you, then start moving your hands down her arms, down her sides and then from the outside of her hips to her knees and back up again...I even intentionally "accidentally" brush the outside of their breasts and butt while doing it, because it gets them even hornier, but I definitely wouldn't recommend trying this on your first time...after you do it enough times, you'll know exactly how to do it to make it look innocent...

She should be enjoying this and leaning back into you by this point, keep smelling her and then this time when you get near her ear, kiss her gently on the neck and maybe nibble her ear lobe a little...if she doesn't tell you to stop or doesn't do anything just keep going kissing her neck, rubbing her up and down and smelling her, whispering how good she feels and smells in her ear(I would just start whispering all the things I'd love to do to her, but baby steps at this point)...you should start hearing and feeling a change in her breathing...short, shallow breaths...this means she is getting aroused and turned on....fan the fire and keep going...if you do it right she will literally not be able to take it anymore and will be so wet and turned on she might try and rape YOU!

Highly recommend it as well if you two are alone in the house, like on a second date where she just comes over and you've never banged her yet... it almost guarantees she is going to want you to bang her...I sometimes make a comment like "Wow...somebody sure seems to be getting wet down there" and laugh, and if she says any positive things like "yeah" or "maybe a little bit"(maybe means yes), or laughs, I immediately say "let me see for myself" and put my hands down her pants and say how wet she is and start massaging her p*ssy/cl!t....at this point its all over, she will usually go with it for a while and be moaning and get hotter and hotter,and then suggest you go upstairs...

Game, Set, Match, for the Win!!!
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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

This works, also offering to cuddle while watching a movie(believe it or not women see this as innocuous too).

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Women don't see it as innocuous. They know exactly what you're doing...and play along. If you find yourself at her place (or she finds herself at yours), it already means that she wants to bang. Any kind of physical escalation will be treated receptively, as long as it's not awkward or crude (i.e. whipping out your d!ck).

AH! So that's what I did wrong last night..... whipping out my d!ck on the first date in IHOP.

GotED? said:

AH! So that's what I did wrong last night..... whipping out my d!ck on the first date in IHOP.

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Bro, that's standard operating procedure if you're gonna go to IHOP.

Good post OP.

I agree on the main point - you have to initiate physical touching. Also - don't ask - just do. Say something like "come here" then pull her into you for a hug on the couch, then touch her hair, neck, etc. Then just kiss her. That's it.

If you say something like "let's sit on the couch" - great. If you say "let's go the bedroom" - bad. Once you kiss her somewhere, LEAD HER BY THE HAND to the bedroom.

Women love to be told what to do, and love having a man lead them.

Bokanovsky said:

Women don't see it as innocuous. They know exactly what you're doing...and play along. If you find yourself at her place (or she finds herself at yours), it already means that she wants to bang. Any kind of physical escalation will be treated receptively, as long as it's not awkward or crude (i.e. whipping out your d!ck).

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Yep.

If a woman comes over to my place, it's over. It's almost laughable how little I have to do to get her undressed.