Turn Her In To The Orbiter! Social Proof! Become Magnetic! Get to the Next Level!!!

Purefilth said:

You've come a long way since I first saw you on the NC challenge buddy.

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j0504s said:

I had a great realization recently...sometimes when you get to a certain point in your journey to be a Don Juan the progress becomes lower because you have reached a certain point...just like working out...when your small everything you do makes u bigger...but when u get big to take it to the next level it requires much more specific work, doing specific work outs to define each every muscle in your body....

The point being is the progress I have made recently is more of a perception, but in fact its a reality when it comes down to it...in the past 8 years of doing this, I have been orbiter but quickly with in my second year I realized that’s not working...and as I improved I started to gain a mindset that trumps almost everyone else that I know...The most important thing I have gained is the "inner gain" The true Integrity which lead to self worth which consequently lead to Value that others perceived as greatness, I became magnetic and from this I have gained not only TRUE Confidence but SUCESS In life...

Now The main point...
The girls/women/crazy Biatches that live off VALIDATION...what if you never gave it to them (which i haven’t in a long time minus an LTR) They are craving for you to ORBIT be that AFC that will do anything for them...be that beta WK...By not giving the validation to them you will create your OWN ORBITERS!!!! These females Hamsters go nuts when they don’t get what they want...."Why does he not approve of me" "Why does he speak to other girls but not me" "I WANT MY VALIDATION"...This is classic the ignore tactics/never approving of what she does...will create an orbiter and maybe a lay...this was all influenced off this recent thread I made....

By creating the perception that she orbiting to you will make some crazy awesome SOCIAL PROOF....The world is how ur perceive it...95% of men think irrationally when it comes to women...there is a reason that people flock to hang out with me...they what I have to offer...It raises their value...I was not always like this, but I worked at it and now I got it but there is always room for improvement...So make them orbit you, they will be texting you just give the one word answer or don’t answer...most of these chicks I have no interest in I just keep em around me, b/c they want more!!! This create true SOCIAL PROOF AND ACTUAL VALUE....others perceive it as value but it really is true value, People will desire to hang out with you I can’t say it enough...WORK TO BE MAGNETIC ITS WHORTH IT!!!!

I one wrote a field report and titled it “The Mall Is My Playground” b/c it is we can do whatever we want if we work at it and have the confidence!!!

Keep Spinning,
J0504S

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DragonBlood said:

j0504s,

Good thread. I get the social proof validation ignore stuff but Im still a bit unclear on your 'orbiter' mentality. How do you turn your girls into full blown orbiters? You just ask them to do stuff and they put up no resistance?


Would love some real world examples.

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nroug7 said:

She should want to know about you, constantly vying for your attention. And you freaking hook her like a maniac. Nice guys are constantly vying for the girls attention, now do you get it?
NICE GUYS AND GIRLS ARE THE SAME DAMN THING.
THAT'S THE HIDDEN TRUTH.

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nroug7 said:

NICE GUYS AND GIRLS ARE THE SAME DAMN THING.
THAT'S THE HIDDEN TRUTH.

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DragonBlood said:

Makes sense thanks guys. Ive definitely noticed the less effort you put in a girl the much more interested she (and more so others) become. I think it is the 'hook her like a maniac' bit that was the missing part of puzzle for me.

i.e. when she does seek your attention dont act like a chump!




Wow nroug I see what you mean! Thats a great way to look at it. Great thread surprised more users havent posted.

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TARKUS said:

Trying too hard makes you look desperate

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nroug7 said:

An example: Recently I've been spinning one plate far too much, and this is plate is going to go off balance if I spin it any longer. I NEED TO STOP SPINNING THE PLATE.
The plate can keep spinning for a while.
Having orbiters is similar to spinning plates, Except you don't need to try to spin the plates, you give them one big spin and then walk off, they will spin themselves for quite a while, you then move away, spin each of the other plates and then walk away. You give them really, incredibly small amounts of validation and leave them wanting more.

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j0504s said:

I had a great realization recently...sometimes when you get to a certain point in your journey to be a Don Juan the progress becomes lower because you have reached a certain point...just like working out...when your small everything you do makes u bigger...but when u get big to take it to the next level it requires much more specific work, doing specific work outs to define each every muscle in your body....

The point being is the progress I have made recently is more of a perception, but in fact its a reality when it comes down to it...in the past 8 years of doing this, I have been orbiter but quickly with in my second year I realized that’s not working...and as I improved I started to gain a mindset that trumps almost everyone else that I know...The most important thing I have gained is the "inner gain" The true Integrity which lead to self worth which consequently lead to Value that others perceived as greatness, I became magnetic and from this I have gained not only TRUE Confidence but SUCESS In life...

Now The main point...
The girls/women/crazy Biatches that live off VALIDATION...what if you never gave it to them (which i haven’t in a long time minus an LTR) They are craving for you to ORBIT be that AFC that will do anything for them...be that beta WK...By not giving the validation to them you will create your OWN ORBITERS!!!! These females Hamsters go nuts when they don’t get what they want...."Why does he not approve of me" "Why does he speak to other girls but not me" "I WANT MY VALIDATION"...This is classic the ignore tactics/never approving of what she does...will create an orbiter and maybe a lay...this was all influenced off this recent thread I made....

By creating the perception that she orbiting to you will make some crazy awesome SOCIAL PROOF....The world is how ur perceive it...95% of men think irrationally when it comes to women...there is a reason that people flock to hang out with me...they what I have to offer...It raises their value...I was not always like this, but I worked at it and now I got it but there is always room for improvement...So make them orbit you, they will be texting you just give the one word answer or don’t answer...most of these chicks I have no interest in I just keep em around me, b/c they want more!!! This create true SOCIAL PROOF AND ACTUAL VALUE....others perceive it as value but it really is true value, People will desire to hang out with you I can’t say it enough...WORK TO BE MAGNETIC ITS WHORTH IT!!!!

I one wrote a field report and titled it “The Mall Is My Playground” b/c it is we can do whatever we want if we work at it and have the confidence!!!

Keep Spinning,
J0504S

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djjizzyjeff said:

Good thread and true.

Not to try to derail or put it down but..

The only thing is you need to be attractive physically a bit more than most dudes or if someone "better" comes along it won't matter. Especially if the chick gets a lot of attention from better looking dudes. Some chicks it will work on. Others could care less if they can get dudes who look better than you or I.


Also some chicks will play along with you while they may have a boyfriend and or other dudes they think are "better" than you but you "make the cut" so they'll use you for short bursts of attention when you do show it but not really care if you don't show them attention at times as they already have someone.

There are chicks out there who operate like that. My advice to dudes would be to keep things cordial with chicks like that but not bother trying to play the value/ attention/ take away game with them but simply let them be. Keep things friendly and brief and not waste your time thinking it may end up in some positive result especially if the chick seems cool and you think she might "really" like you. Some just play that for some "for the moment" attention (IE: they have a fight with their BF or are insecure about their relationship status or just insecure) whenever you DO give attention to them but otherwise don't care as they have a BF or other dudes etc.

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j0504s said:

This really deserves a bUMP....One of the orbiters last night who is an HB6, texted at me at 1 am sent me a t1t pic and told me to come f*ck her....i swear by this method, it just keeps proving it self over and over....it rly does make girls hooked to u truly raising your value.

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