A wild night out – FR

So I went out last night, I got outside the club and met a friend there. We chilled for a bit and went inside the club. Then he bounced to the Asian club. I didn’t go because I’m racist to ****. I like my white girls period. Aussie, English, American and Canadian are my choices. I’m not saying i WOULDN’T go for an Asian or an EU girl. I just like my girls to speak English.

So after he bounced i decided to go to a different club. Got inside and got a drink of water. ( i’ve stopped drinking all together, so when i say I’m drinking. It’s ALWAYS water. ) so i walk round the club for a bit and chode. Solo game sucks. It’s so much more of a state pump to have your wings there rocking it with you. But this time I didn’t have them around, Since they have the yellow plague.

So i see this girl standing all by herself in the hip-hop room. She looks bored so i asked her why she was all alone. She tells me her friends went home. So I chill with her for a bit talk about heaps of random things. Then after a bit i lead her to go up stairs ( i literality grab her hand and pulled her up stairs ) so we go up there get a drink and keep talking. After that i take her to a couch area nearby and we sit for a bit. Do a bit of dancing. Have fun, which is good.

We go down stairs and she goes to the toilet. I need to go to so no loss so after that I go meet up with my friend who just made it in the club.
I forgot to get this girls number but there are SO many positives i can take from this. They are:
Positives out of this set

• I lead her up stairs
• Got in close with her and did some dancing
• Lots of good talking. ( most of my interactions motley last 3 mins. )

Things to work on
• Should have got her number when she had her phone out.
• Should have gone for a kiss when dancing with her

That was girls one of 3. Not really sure how long the interaction was, maybe 30-45 mins maybe more.
I chilled with my friends for a bit then they left. So i hung in the club for a bit and decided to go back to the plaza outside the first club I went to.

As I am walking to the first club, I see 2 girls taking a picture of their friends getting busted by the cops. It was funny to see them get busted for public urination. So i start to joke and laugh about it with the 2 girls. I talk to them for a bit about it and we get to talking. I learn one of the girls is an accountant working for 11$ a hour. I find that surprising since I’m studying to be an accountant and i know they are well paid. after talking about this so random guy comes into my set. At first i was “ huh WTF” but he wasn't there to AMOG me or anything. He just started talking to one of the girls. (the cuter one no less.. but she was only cuter by like 1 point. I'm 23. They looked about 18/19. So they was younger than me.. I'm into older girls. First girl I talked to was 26. They i was still into them. ) so he winger her FOR me and i talk to the girl standing next to me WITHOUT skipping a beat.

we continue to keep talking and as her friends come back to show there expensive fines, I go for the number with this girl. She tells me she doesn't have her phone with her and she can’t remember her number... so she grabs her friends phone and she and i enter my number in there and we exchange numbers.
After I get her friends number she friend ( the one who’s number i have now) starts freaking out to the girl who let me put her number in her phone. I didn't do anything at this point. I just let them walk off and she walked off.

As I walked off i caught the girl look at me. So I guess I could have pushed the set harder.
So now you’re thinking. Great, you have a number of a girl who freaked out about you getting her number. She is going to flake your text when you next her the next morning.
Well... she didn't. I texted her something like:
“hey it’s Luke from last night hope your friends aren't too bummed about their fines from last night. What’s your friend’s number?”

Witch worked. I did get her number. But that’s it from her. I know she is an accountant so i asked her about contract law. After I messaged her “ thanks “ for the number.
I haven’t got a response yet. I think I might just message her once more during the week and leave it at that. Plus I Didn't spends too much time talking to her.

The girl who I DID talk to for most of the time did text me back after I sent her a message similar to the one about ( but without the asking for the number bit)
She sent me a picture of her pasted out on the train. ( kids these days)
I text back “ that is you? Hahahahahahhaah that is epic! One of the many reasons why i gave up drinking “
To which I haven’t got a reply yet. I'll just re open mid week and set something up for the weekend.
Positives out of this set
• I went for the number
• I didn't freak out when the guy entered the set

Things to work on
• Should have gone with them and talked to the group as a whole ( they was walking the same way as me)

After talking to this girl I continued to the first club, I met another friend out there and we talk about game and life and things. It was a really good talk for me. I love to talk to people who are doing a lot better than me. It really give me the motivation to try make it there for myself too.
As we continue to talk. He sees a set across the street. He tells me to go open it. Reluctantly ( i still get AA ) i go open the set.

This girl is the best set of the night, nice cute blonde girl from out of town. (Only been here 2 months)
We get to talking on the street corner. She’s into house music and I want to dance at the place she was standing out of. I think of a few places we can go. We start walking down the road hand in hand. She is squeeze my hand back pretty tight. (Which an old friend of mine told me is an IOI. Learnt this when i was 16 from a friend online. Hope your kicking it man. Respect!)

So we walk down to this bar I know of but it’s lock out time. So we have to go somewhere else so we sit down on some steps for a bit and all she keeps saying is how my city sucks and how hers is better. ( I guess she is missing home) I keep telling her to stop being negative and be positive.
After a bit of talking she pulls her phone out. I steal it off her and put my number in it. I call my phone so I have her number too. I tell her “ I’m stealing your number ok” she’s like ok.

After we talk for a little long we go in search of food cos she is hungry, but she is wants to dance ( I guess her drunkenness was kicking in)

So we go back to the place she was thinking of getting in at. She emailed them that day to get onto the guest list. We get in to the club for free and get a drink. Then we dance for a bit.

We dance for what seemed like ages. I tried to get in close to her but she would always push me away. I think it’s just a question of me being more aggressive. I should have just grab her and pulled her into me but I didn’t. I guess it’s just a inner game issue on not doing it before. Will note this for next time.

At one point while dancing I felt like burning the set. She was me look at my watch and she said “ if you want to go home it’s cool” to which I said “ why would I do that when I am having so much fun?”

I wasn’t lying when I said that, I was having fun. I just didn’t think the set was going to go anywhere. I made a decided to see where the set went. So we finished dancing and we were going to leave the club. She called me back as i was going down the stairs. I don’t know why she did this cos she sat down at a table while I went to take a piss, then we left to get food anyway , though it was good to know she remembered my name.
We went to the food place and she ordered some food. She kept asking me if I was going to get some but I didn’t. Told her i was on a diet. Though she did offer a bite of hers, at first I declined but then i though **** it and had some. Pretty much what i thought? Worst kebab ever! ( I have a place about 15 mins from my house that dose EPIC kebabs. Though that the time i wasn't hungry)

What was funny is a few times towards the end of the night I offered to drive her home. She declined and said she was getting a taxi. As we was walking off to go to the car after finishing the food. I asked her again, told her it was going to cost 50$ (that’s how much a taxi costs for me so i drove in) at this point she says yes to the lift and off we go to get to the car.

During the walk to the car I offered to give her a piggy back ride lol. But she declined. So we made it to the car, we hope in and I drive her home. We talk a bit in the car, I hug her good night and she leaves.
Now, I guess most of you are like...WTF it ended there, but i don’t think i had enough game to **** her, plus she was being a little stand offish most of the night. Even though I didn't **** her, and it maybe was a chode move to drive her home ( not sure if it was the right thing to do her cos on the surface it’s like she just used me for a lift home., Though it’s not my care or my fuel so. ) I done so many things for the first time that I feel pretty good about. For me it’s wasn't about the ****, because I know I wasn't going to get it yet. How can I **** her when I don’t have the reference experience of taking a girl home yet?( have had sex, just not threw cold approach) I just need to go little by little and it will come to me.

I texted her today and i got a good response. she thanked me for the lift and i told her she has to by me coffee this weekend. She played they “ I’m busy for the next few weeks” thing. So I’ll just text her up mid week and see how it goes. Not to fussed really, Was good to get the exp.
Positive things I learnt

• Set lasted a few good hours ( never happened before)
• Had some good kino ( need more though)
• Dance with girl in club for a bit ( never done that before)
• Drove girl home ( never done before)

Things I need to work on
• Being more aggressive
• More kino
• Kiss her at some point
• Maybe gone for a kiss when i dropped her off ( did get a hug but)

I know I'm still learning and I know my learning curve is going to be grater then most people so last night was a good win for me, even if i did get a few flaky numbers out of it.
So all in all it was a good night for me.

Packers2010 said:

During the walk to the car I offered to give her a piggy back ride lol. But she declined. So we made it to the car, we hope in and I drive her home. We talk a bit in the car, I hug her good night and she leaves.
Now, I guess most of you are like...WTF it ended there, but i don’t think i had enough game to **** her, plus she was being a little stand offish most of the night. Even though I didn't **** her, and it maybe was a chode move to drive her home ( not sure if it was the right thing to do her cos on the surface it’s like she just used me for a lift home., Though it’s not my care or my fuel so. ) I done so many things for the first time that I feel pretty good about. For me it’s wasn't about the ****, because I know I wasn't going to get it yet. How can I **** her when I don’t have the reference experience of taking a girl home yet?( have had sex, just not threw cold approach) I just need to go little by little and it will come to me.

I texted her today and i got a good response. she thanked me for the lift and i told her she has to by me coffee this weekend. She played they “ I’m busy for the next few weeks” thing. So I’ll just text her up mid week and see how it goes. Not to fussed really, Was good to get the exp.
Positive things I learnt

• Set lasted a few good hours ( never happened before)
• Had some good kino ( need more though)
• Dance with girl in club for a bit ( never done that before)
• Drove girl home ( never done before)

Things I need to work on
• Being more aggressive
• More kino
• Kiss her at some point
• Maybe gone for a kiss when i dropped her off ( did get a hug but)

I know I'm still learning and I know my learning curve is going to be grater then most people so last night was a good win for me, even if i did get a few flaky numbers out of it.
So all in all it was a good night for me.

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WTF???? ALWAYS ALWAYS go for the lay when talking to chicks from the clubs...numbers from the club don't mean crap unless you banged her or you had some great physical chemistry going on....she probably thinks you are a wuss to be honest with you and was probably banking on the ONS....you miss your chance...oh well......when at the clubs...always always go for the lay....that is what they are there for...it's a meat market...yeah you got your AWs...but you should have banged this one...also you should have a few drinks man and have some fun......geez..you are young...live it up....but don't count on numbers from the club...you just just one of the many many guys she talked to that night...push the makeout and push the taking back home always...numbers are for day game...not saying you can't get good numbers at a club/bar..i do all of the time...but i also always push for the lay...

Also, don't over analyze anything at the club...most people are drunk and/or AWS..once again have some fun and enjoy it...

Sounds like you had a good night of pushing your comfort zone, man. Good job.

2 things:

1. The very first girl who was there by herself was your best option. She was by herself, SAID HER FRIENDS ALL LEFT HER and was open to move with you wherever. She was down man. All that was left to do was say "let's get out of here." I had a similar situation this weekend but got ADD and tried to pull another girl instead. I got lucky but wasted an hour dealing with unnecessary BS. Once you go out long enough you'll realize that logistics is most of the battle. This girl had the best logistics.

2. The last girl you didn't do enough to physically escalate. I mean it's "nice" that you drove her home but if you wanted a f close you should have at the very least been making out with her before agreeing to something like that.

As for what Zinc is saying, I partially agree. Women you meet in clubs CAN be flaky but I've gotten plenty of dates this way. HOWEVER, if you spend the amount of time you did with this girl, are clearly attracted to her but never make a move, drive her home but don't invite yourself in etc... Basically do all the same things that a dude who's planning on getting a ONS but don't go for it in the end... YOU'RE NEVER HEARING FROM THAT GIRL AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE.

This is pretty much the only hard rule in game I've learned in the field.

NewAndImproved said:

Sounds like you had a good night of pushing your comfort zone, man. Good job.

1. The very first girl who was there by herself was your best option. She was by herself, SAID HER FRIENDS ALL LEFT HER and was open to move with you wherever. She was down man. All that was left to do was say "let's get out of here." I had a similar situation this weekend but got ADD and tried to pull another girl instead. I got lucky but wasted an hour dealing with unnecessary BS. Once you go out long enough you'll realize that logistics is most of the battle. This girl had the best logistics.

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^This.

Good report. You got out there and did the best you could with several girls. I also think that the first girl had the most potential.
If you find another like the first girl, stick to her like glue. Dance, do some MINIMAL kissing/making out, and then invite her to leave.

Yep, first girl was gold as well....anytime a chick says her friends left her that is the biggest green light ever...

zinc4 said:

WTF???? ALWAYS ALWAYS go for the lay when talking to chicks from the clubs...numbers from the club don't mean crap unless you banged her or you had some great physical chemistry going on....she probably thinks you are a wuss to be honest with you and was probably banking on the ONS....you miss your chance...oh well......when at the clubs...always always go for the lay....that is what they are there for...it's a meat market...yeah you got your AWs...but you should have banged this one...also you should have a few drinks man and have some fun......geez..you are young...live it up....but don't count on numbers from the club...you just just one of the many many guys she talked to that night...push the makeout and push the taking back home always...numbers are for day game...not saying you can't get good numbers at a club/bar..i do all of the time...but i also always push for the lay...

Also, don't over analyze anything at the club...most people are drunk and/or AWS..once again have some fun and enjoy it...

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the short answer to this is i don't know how. i've never done it before. though i think if i didn't kiss her befor hand i am going to have trouble if I did try at the end of the night.

though she pretty much just rush off and i didn't get an opportunity anyway. if she did want me to come over then maybe she could have stalled for a few seconds. she didn't.. she just just straight out.

to be honest with you, i wasn't expecting this set to last or do what it did. most fo my sets go for 3 mins and they fizzle out quickly. so lately I've been thinking i'm still in the noobie faze and i have just been going out to get the reference exp so to speak and not really having a game plan in place.

so now i am going to look up a few things and try see where that gets me.

edit: what's funny is girl one was like a hb 4. so. she was defo the ugliest girl of the night.

maybe if i met up with her after going to the toilet i would have left with her. though i need to get in closer to there face then just make out with them i think. i'm too scared of the rejection for that, though i know you just play it off as nothing and just keep doing what you doing if you get one. ( that's not her hugely freaking out, it's just a test.)

NewAndImproved said:

Sounds like you had a good night of pushing your comfort zone, man. Good job.

2 things:

1. The very first girl who was there by herself was your best option. She was by herself, SAID HER FRIENDS ALL LEFT HER and was open to move with you wherever. She was down man. All that was left to do was say "let's get out of here." I had a similar situation this weekend but got ADD and tried to pull another girl instead. I got lucky but wasted an hour dealing with unnecessary BS. Once you go out long enough you'll realize that logistics is most of the battle. This girl had the best logistics.

2. The last girl you didn't do enough to physically escalate. I mean it's "nice" that you drove her home but if you wanted a f close you should have at the very least been making out with her before agreeing to something like that.

As for what Zinc is saying, I partially agree. Women you meet in clubs CAN be flaky but I've gotten plenty of dates this way. HOWEVER, if you spend the amount of time you did with this girl, are clearly attracted to her but never make a move, drive her home but don't invite yourself in etc... Basically do all the same things that a dude who's planning on getting a ONS but don't go for it in the end... YOU'RE NEVER HEARING FROM THAT GIRL AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE.

This is pretty much the only hard rule in game I've learned in the field.

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yeah. i get what your are saying and i know the numbers have a high % to flake. it was my frist time getting anything like this so. i though i did ok for a first time. next time i will be more equipped to go for the makeout. though right now it still seams a little scary to me.

gotta say I don't miss that age at all

woooo! that was really fun eh? wish i could join

Packers2010 said:

During the walk to the car I offered to give her a piggy back ride lol. But she declined. So we made it to the car, we hope in and I drive her home. We talk a bit in the car, I hug her good night and she leaves.
Now, I guess most of you are like...WTF it ended there, but i don’t think i had enough game to **** her, plus she was being a little stand offish most of the night. Even though I didn't **** her, and it maybe was a chode move to drive her home ( not sure if it was the right thing to do her cos on the surface it’s like she just used me for a lift home., Though it’s not my care or my fuel so. ) I done so many things for the first time that I feel pretty good about. For me it’s wasn't about the ****, because I know I wasn't going to get it yet. How can I **** her when I don’t have the reference experience of taking a girl home yet?( have had sex, just not threw cold approach) I just need to go little by little and it will come to me.

I texted her today and i got a good response. she thanked me for the lift and i told her she has to by me coffee this weekend. She played they “ I’m busy for the next few weeks” thing. So I’ll just text her up mid week and see how it goes. Not to fussed really, Was good to get the exp.
Positive things I learnt

• Set lasted a few good hours ( never happened before)
• Had some good kino ( need more though)
• Dance with girl in club for a bit ( never done that before)
• Drove girl home ( never done before)

Things I need to work on
• Being more aggressive
• More kino
• Kiss her at some point
• Maybe gone for a kiss when i dropped her off ( did get a hug but)

I know I'm still learning and I know my learning curve is going to be grater then most people so last night was a good win for me, even if i did get a few flaky numbers out of it.
So all in all it was a good night for me.

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Good job Packers! Just keep eating right, working out, being fun, social, and confident in yourself. Don't go crazy over analyzing things. Just try to learn from mistakes and keep it moving foward.

As for the chicks. Try to meet as many as possible. Even IF nothing works out keep them as "friends" to meet up at the clubs so more chicks see you with chicks leading to meeting more and getting better with them with the advice from SS.

Eventually you'll know and meet so many it becomes effortless and then you can escalate with previous or new chicks when you start seeing what works or doesn't for you.

Oh and as for the Asian chicks...Don't be so "sure" you'll never like them. You might as well try the Asian clubs a few times. I'm sure there are more than a few that speak English..You never know..Never say never. You could be the one who pulls a hot Asian chick and things could work out in your favor.

I didn't read all of it yet but I definitely will finish the read tomorrow. I wanted to add that if you have the right looks, you can make a girl in a club do anything without even saying a word. I usually just grab them on the dance floor and bring them in close for a grind. They go along, never had resistance, but you have to have the looks and the moves on the dance floor for this to work!

Naughty Ninja said:

Good job Packers! Just keep eating right, working out, being fun, social, and confident in yourself. Don't go crazy over analyzing things. Just try to learn from mistakes and keep it moving foward.

As for the chicks. Try to meet as many as possible. Even IF nothing works out keep them as "friends" to meet up at the clubs so more chicks see you with chicks leading to meeting more and getting better with them with the advice from SS.

Eventually you'll know and meet so many it becomes effortless and then you can escalate with previous or new chicks when you start seeing what works or doesn't for you.

Oh and as for the Asian chicks...Don't be so "sure" you'll never like them. You might as well try the Asian clubs a few times. I'm sure there are more than a few that speak English..You never know..Never say never. You could be the one who pulls a hot Asian chick and things could work out in your favor.

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thanks for the advice, i never though about just being friends with one of the girls from that night. though the girl i drove home would be PERFECT. I could just use her as a pivot and try some things on here if it doesn't work who cares. still have a hot friend who can hang out with me in the club.

wow, that pretty much just BLEW my mind.

Packers2010 said:

thanks for the advice, i never though about just being friends with one of the girls from that night. though the girl i drove home would be PERFECT. I could just use her as a pivot and try some things on here if it doesn't work who cares. still have a hot friend who can hang out with me in the club.

wow, that pretty much just BLEW my mind.

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(Damn. Fell asleep. Woke up quater to 4am and can't fall back asleep...today is going to be rough..lol)

I wouldn't suggest purposely going out to just meet chicks as friends. If things progress fine. If not and some are cool to hang with use them as "social proof" when out and meeting more chicks with them as "props" hanging with you.

Just keep on improving yourself slowly and don't go crazy over chicks or all this nonsense second guessing everything or thinking you "failed" at times. Take things as a learning experience and try not to repeat or if they work try them again.

After a while just being a "DJ" even if you are successful as hell with it becomes boring. Just internalize and learn the things that make sense and work for you till you meet someone who feels the same about you as you do them. IF things don't work out you pretty much already know to learn from the experience plus already have experience meeting many chicks as it is.

Packers2010 said:

the short answer to this is i don't know how. i've never done it before. though i think if i didn't kiss her befor hand i am going to have trouble if I did try at the end of the night.

though she pretty much just rush off and i didn't get an opportunity anyway. if she did want me to come over then maybe she could have stalled for a few seconds. she didn't.. she just just straight out.

to be honest with you, i wasn't expecting this set to last or do what it did. most fo my sets go for 3 mins and they fizzle out quickly. so lately I've been thinking i'm still in the noobie faze and i have just been going out to get the reference exp so to speak and not really having a game plan in place.

so now i am going to look up a few things and try see where that gets me.

edit: what's funny is girl one was like a hb 4. so. she was defo the ugliest girl of the night.

maybe if i met up with her after going to the toilet i would have left with her. though i need to get in closer to there face then just make out with them i think. i'm too scared of the rejection for that, though i know you just play it off as nothing and just keep doing what you doing if you get one. ( that's not her hugely freaking out, it's just a test.)

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Well...to make things simple...go for the kiss when you are alone....pull her face toward you....if u are scared, then don't think just do it...follow your penis man really...do what it wants you to do...in the car you should have kiss closed her when you stopped or tried to...if u can't then just say what kind of movies do you like? i got some good dvds at my place.....anything really...just try...but if they are down to go home with u the dvd line will work or anything a little but not too subtle...just try and don't be afraid of making a mistake and you will find your rythm of it and get it down over time...

Naughty Ninja said:

(Damn. Fell asleep. Woke up quater to 4am and can't fall back asleep...today is going to be rough..lol)

I wouldn't suggest purposely going out to just meet chicks as friends. If things progress fine. If not and some are cool to hang with use them as "social proof" when out and meeting more chicks with them as "props" hanging with you.

Just keep on improving yourself slowly and don't go crazy over chicks or all this nonsense second guessing everything or thinking you "failed" at times. Take things as a learning experience and try not to repeat or if they work try them again.

After a while just being a "DJ" even if you are successful as hell with it becomes boring. Just internalize and learn the things that make sense and work for you till you meet someone who feels the same about you as you do them. IF things don't work out you pretty much already know to learn from the experience plus already have experience meeting many chicks as it is.

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yeah this is what i am doing.. i was only talking about her i mean. another weekend another girl right?

zinc4 said:

Well...to make things simple...go for the kiss when you are alone....pull her face toward you....if u are scared, then don't think just do it...follow your penis man really...do what it wants you to do...in the car you should have kiss closed her when you stopped or tried to...if u can't then just say what kind of movies do you like? i got some good dvds at my place.....anything really...just try...but if they are down to go home with u the dvd line will work or anything a little but not too subtle...just try and don't be afraid of making a mistake and you will find your rythm of it and get it down over time...

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yeah, at the end of the end of the night i went for a hug but after it she pulled away too fast.

i should have just kissed her while dancing with her.. i mean. it was fun dancing with her. but if the set blew up in my face i could have easily just left the club and gone home. was about 2:30 - 3am at that point. most clubs close at 2am here. some are open longer but you can see most people have gone home. so i do too.

i just have to learn to DO IT. my social anxiety can be a ***** some times and over ride all other feelings i have. it's getting better now though I'm thinking of going to see a therapist to sort all this out. ( this isn't just the only problem I have. my home life could do with a someone just for that )

good job packers, turning your life around i see keep it up buddy.

Packers2010 said:

yeah, at the end of the end of the night i went for a hug but after it she pulled away too fast.

i should have just kissed her while dancing with her.. i mean. it was fun dancing with her. but if the set blew up in my face i could have easily just left the club and gone home. was about 2:30 - 3am at that point. most clubs close at 2am here. some are open longer but you can see most people have gone home. so i do too.

i just have to learn to DO IT. my social anxiety can be a ***** some times and over ride all other feelings i have. it's getting better now though I'm thinking of going to see a therapist to sort all this out. ( this isn't just the only problem I have. my home life could do with a someone just for that )

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Yep, that is really the only thing holding you back at this point IMO...just do it....and get used to doing it and then it will all naturally fall into place...it's great that you are out there trying and all, but you have to go for the throat in the end......only one way to beat the fear/anxiety, just force yourself to do it.

zinc4 said:

anytime a chick says her friends left her that is the biggest green light ever...

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I had a ONS from a club Saturday. This was the first thing that came out of her mouth.