My Girlfriend was raped by her Ex...

Hating women and hating what has happened to them (and hence their resultant behavior) are two different things but can seem the same on the surface.

When the vulnerable are brainwashed by forces that are superior to their ability to comprehend, it is those forces that are hated.

If a child is brainwashed, you might hate the resultant behavior but you wouldn't hate the child. You would speak out against the machine that the child unwittingly became a part of, and you would CERTAINLY insist that the child change his or her ways, regardless of the brainwashing.

As we get into our 30's, 40's and 50's the invisible machine starts to become visible (for those with eyes to see) and hatred for it grows. Understand that there are hidden forces and powers at work with an insatiable appetite for destruction.

What is the destruction? The dismantling of the family and the turning of men into unthinking worker drones.

To destroy the man, destroy the woman.

Forgive me for being confused...so you're saying that these guys don't hate the women temselves, they just hate that Our culture has brainwashed women into believing lying about rape is not only ok but beneficial?

If that's not what u meant just let me kno

Btw if that is what you meant I'll stand by my comment that there's a lot of guys here that despise women

Only someone with real hate in their heart would make such bold accusations in thread after thread that I see where rape comes into the discussion. Yet everytime the word rape enters any discussion in any form the first reaction for a LOT of guys here is to blame the woman. Like I said it's sick and twisted. One in every 4 women in the USA is sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

Lying about being raped is despicable but assuming that all women who claim to be raped are lying is almost as disgusting

I see some guys suggesting that it's possible. It is certainly more common than you want to believe.

Women by nature are highly skilled re-framers and outright liars. They will spout out as fact that which they fear or feel.

Have you ever heard a woman quote a conversation? The words are almost always profoundly different from the actual words spoken.

Therefore, when a woman talks about being raped by a former boyfriend with who she was having consentual sex, it is within the realm of possibility that she is stretching the truth. It is not fact; it is however very possible.

Atom Smasher said:

Therefore, when a woman talks about being raped by a former boyfriend with who she was having consentual sex, it is within the realm of possibility that she is stretching the truth. It is not fact; it is however very possible.

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At the very least, I would like to hear the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions. All we have so far is her side, which may very well be biased.

This thread should be considered DEAD.

We are all just speculating on something that is a waste of time, including which came first: The chicken or the egg.

Exodus

Well, dammit, which DID come first? I've been pondering that for the last two minutes now...

But seriously, the value of this thread is to remind all that we need FACTS to accurately determine the validity of alleged rape allegations. Women will say whatever the f they want to when they're upset, and then they need to stick to it to save face.

Remember when you were a little kid, you absolutely believed your lies? When men get older and develop class and character, generally it becomes harder and more internally troubling to lie. Not so with women. They will lie with the same brutal efficiency as a child because they believe it.

FACTS and RULES... The two nemeses of modern woman.

GotED? said:

This thread should be considered DEAD.

We are all just speculating on something that is a waste of time, including which came first: The chicken or the egg.

Exodus

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This thread is dead, but not due to lack of facts. We have all the facts we need. The thread is dead because there's no such thing as rape within marriage (or within today's substitutes for marriage).

It's really tiresome to hear the sales pitch for Politically Correct censorship. Think about it. They're always bringing one or another sacred cow, and saying it's always wrong to question XXX by an "oppressed minority." Why? The shifting sand fallacy. Whatever is the claim, that's the very process by which "oppression" is meted out. If you question XXX, you're automatically for "oppression." And, if later investigation disproves some of the purported "facts," the claim shifts to something else, and by golly, that's the source of their "oppression." In this thread, XXX is any woman's accusation of rape by a man. The only permissible discussion is reverence for XXX. And who's giving the permission to talk? The liberals. They claim soverignty over all so-called "freedom of speech" (and declare that freedom of conscience is for themselves alone -- that is, the right to live according to your own beliefs, not according to someone else's). The purpose is to one-by-one shut down any dissent against liberalism, until any remaining dissent is cordoned off into sanitary false dilemmas of foolish prattle. As they shut down dissent, they effectively shut down freedom of association, and thus, any opposing action.

"Rape" is such an inflammatory word that it's clear the liberals are guilty of appeal to emotion. They have no reasonable response to the charge that they're manufacturing claims of rape within a LTR.

Men bring up problems because they want to take action toward solutions. Women bring up problems to vent and fume and hand-wring. But women understand that when they bring problems to men, the men are going to try to do something about it. How many times were you sexually aggressive, and afterwards, the woman brags to you about it, says you "practically raped" her, and then goes to brag about it to her GFs? All the time. It makes her feel in charge that you can't resist her beauty. So I'm getting the idea that the woman in question is bragging about the sexual power of her ex. It's a sh1t test.

^^ Masterfully written. ^^

Would rape, uhhh... rep you if I could...

But seriously, a well articulated piece if ever I saw one.

Atom Smasher said:

^^ Masterfully written. ^^

Would rape, uhhh... rep you if I could...

But seriously, a well articulated piece if ever I saw one.

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Damn, I'm seriously becoming homo-phobic now from that comment.

I think Ass-Smasher is having WAY too much fun on this site as the Moderator. He obviously is not limited to 10 posts in 24 hours - WTF!!! We would save so many more bits and bites on the Internet if that was enforced. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

LOL, "Ass Smasher". Your'e right... I'm using up too much bandwidth lately. From now on I'll be limiting myself to 40 posts per day.

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I see some guys suggesting that it's possible. It is certainly more common than you want to believe.

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I didn't say it was uncommon I said the baseless assumptions and accusations made by guys here are irresponsible at best

Often times kids are unreliable witnesses again pedophiles, how many of u guys are IMMEDIATELY calling kids liars when they say they've been touched?

What I'm saying is NOT that it's uncommon for chicks to lie about this but that it takes a real scumbag to assume a lie when it comes to such a sensitiv matter

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But seriously, the value of this thread is to remind all that we need FACTS to accurately determine the validity of alleged rape allegations. Women will say whatever the f they want to when they're upset, and then they need to stick to it to save face.
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The value of this thread is to show that sosuave posters assume all rape victims are liars until given DNA evidence to prove otherwise, and even then there's a 80% chance "she was asking for it." even FACTS don't detour guys here from believing all rape victims are liars, because they can still fall back on any one of a number of arguments.I.e. "she had it coming..."she wa asking for it"..."she was drunk or on drugs and doesn't remember"...etc etc

This thread is so lame and so dead like I said.

People arguing about things that will never have a resolution because it is all just assumptions. In all cases, both sides are correct, because both sides are possible. I just don't give a sh!t about it here since we will never know the truth. Waste of time.

Exodus

"Atom Smasher said: Have you ever heard a woman quote a conversation?"

Yes. This is off topic but many times women will quote a conversation to say something indirectly when they are too chicken to say it directly. Or just as a cowardly, surreptitious way to communicate something negative. As an example: Women can either shame you directly or quote a conversation in such a way to shame you indirectly. Women can insult you directly or they can insult you indirectly by quoting a conversation about someone else. It can be a way to weasel in an insult.

incognito42 said:

The value of this thread is to show that sosuave posters assume all rape victims are liars until given DNA evidence to prove otherwise, and even then there's a 80% chance "she was asking for it." even FACTS don't detour guys here from believing all rape victims are liars, because they can still fall back on any one of a number of arguments.I.e. "she had it coming..."she wa asking for it"..."she was drunk or on drugs and doesn't remember"...etc etc

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You seem to get highly emotional, and I've noticed that this trait tends to cause people to speak in absolutes that simply aren't based in reality.

Who here said that "all rape victims are liars?" You seem to maintain that everyone here thinks this.

I hear a lot of "All SS posters are this; All SS posters are that" and I'm not seeing evidence to support these generalizations and absolute statements.