It still amazes me

Danger said:

Where is the discrimination?

This is a board about women. If you are interested in men, I'm sure there are other places where you can peruse discussions on them.

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"How any men could have experienced this common female behavior and ever concluded that women should be treated with "equality" or equal with men is a big joke. It's obvious that woman are operating on an instinctive/emotional, no honor system of the level of an animal and deserve about the same respect/free reign as the family dog."

Danger said:

I actually agree with him.

There are studies that show women's voting preferences change with their ovulation cycle.

Sort of an indication that logic is not their number one criteria, don't you think?

Having said that, do you actually think feminism was about equality?

Let's be honest here, can you blame a man for being sick of women flaking on him, when they have no problem sleeping around with the poor choice men in their 20's?

Women as a group, when compared to men, have little to no honor. Why? Because they are a slave to their feelings, not logic or their word. Studies such as the one I mention above are a good example of this for those who have the eyes and the desire to see through the propaganda.

To reference the above statement.....I would say the flaking epidemic FAR outpaces the "get them pregnant and run" epidemic.

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And they are both equal morally? Because one hurts your puny ego and the other leaves a child in the world fatherless?

So you discriminate against women in the regard that they should be given as much freedom as a family dog and think this isn't discrimination?

Are you muslim by any chance?

Danger said:

Ah, you cannot counter my logic, so you must restort to ad hominem attacks.

Yet you still are under the presupposition that the man is to blame for the woman who spreads her legs indiscriminately. Why is that?

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Whose blaming anyone, you're the one blaming women, I personally don't give a **** whose to blame, **** happens. You're the one that thinks I'm championing some cause, I'm just telling you to stop being an ignorant douchebag, ad hominem.

Danger said:

Ah, more ad hominem attacks. Shocking.

Let's see, since women cannot control their emotions, make nation-altering decisions based upon those emotions, spread their legs for bad men and then punish society so that all of us must pay for the results of those bad decisions....it seems a rather open and shut case., doesn't it?

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Bad men? So there are also good men, but in the case of women they are all just bad?

Your logic is childlike, ad hominem.

Danger said:

I notice you still dodge the issue of women flaking far outpacing the number of father's running away. I do not say this to minimize the issue of men walking away from parental obligation, but it is rather obvious that you are just throwing out a red herring to take the focus away from women who have little to no honor other than to their feelings at that particular moment......Which would of course, explain why there are so many unwed mothers with men who chose to run away, because the woman could not control when she spreads her legs for bad mate.

And let's see....you also conveniently ignore the fact that most men WANT to be involved in their children's lives, and you are just channeling feminist dogma which considers all men evil.

Perhaps, if we gave the men the right to walk away from being a father while the baby is still in the first three months in the womb, we would not have a problem. I mean, women have the same right by being allowed to murder the baby. So why is it so bad if a father should be afforded the same right WITHOUT having to murder the child to do so?


Are you a woman perhaps?

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This aregument is all over the place and incoherent and I would have to devote more time that i have to answering all of your disjointed claims.

You seem to hate women with passionate glee.

Are you gay by any chance? Ad hominem.

Stagger Lee said:

To clear some things up in the replies, I'm not angry or that upset about this girl flaking, just tired of typical female behavior in general and this is a good example.

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There there, Lee.

So hopefully it's now out of your system.

Now what?

You gonna give up on females? Or are you gonna "improvise, adapt and overcome"?

"Yes, we call it Game but it's more about knowing how to play."​

Wanna know how to avoid getting angry about a broad flaking? See my sig.

Kbomb said:

Whose blaming anyone, you're the one blaming women, I personally don't give a **** whose to blame, **** happens. You're the one that thinks I'm championing some cause, I'm just telling you to stop being an ignorant douchebag, ad hominem.





Bad men? So there are also good men, but in the case of women they are all just bad?

Your logic is childlike, ad hominem.




This aregument is all over the place and incoherent and I would have to devote more time that i have to answering all of your disjointed claims.

You seem to hate women with passionate glee.

Are you gay by any chance? Ad hominem.

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U mad?

the bottom line is that all women flake. its just a nature of the business. you can reduce the amount of flakes you get by getting better at attraction. but no matter how good your game is you will still get flaked on. i think you did a good job with escalation and making out with her but there is obviously something you missed with your game. you either did not build up any comfort with her and she thinks you are a player and she regrets making out with you and thinks all you want from her is sex. or you showed a little neediness and desparation, she can see that you dont have any other options with women, which is a huge turn off. either way you need to tweak your game, hope that helps.

nismo-4 said:

All women have options.

Some better than others.

Women know just how far they want you to get with them. If you try to advance, you'll hit a brick wall.

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Lol @ your signature.

It's true... and nobody wants to catch a snorlax because all they do is sleep and eat! HA!

Girls flake on guys. Guys sometimes dump or hurt girls who love them.

It's visa versa. No big deal. Just try to live with it. No matter how frustration or illogical it can be sometimes.

Neil Skywalker
Author of the book: Around the world in 80 girls - The epic 3 year trip of a backpacking Casanova.

Study this law closely and carefully and you will master all women...nothing more is needed

BRIFFAULT’S LAW:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

1. Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

2. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)

3. A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male

thevilittletroll said:

the bottom line is that all women flake. its just a nature of the business. you can reduce the amount of flakes you get by getting better at attraction. but no matter how good your game is you will still get flaked on. i think you did a good job with escalation and making out with her but there is obviously something you missed with your game. you either did not build up any comfort with her and she thinks you are a player and she regrets making out with you and thinks all you want from her is sex. or you showed a little neediness and desparation, she can see that you dont have any other options with women, which is a huge turn off. either way you need to tweak your game, hope that helps.

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I totally agree I didn't ultimately have enough attraction that would conquer any chance of flaking. But the problem with that line of reasoning is first there's the assumption that attraction is almost entirely within the control of a man and not dependent on your looks and appearance. I had about as much attraction as was possible with what I had. My position is the only way I could've had more attraction was to be better looking. Then in all likelihood she would've went home with me at the first chance.

The second issue is she was still on 2 days later and the afternoon we were supposed to meet up only to cancel a few hours before the meet up. So I don't think neediness, desperation not having options or anything along those lines was any factor at all. How would I have been needy when i never even contacted between Tuesday and Friday? She simply hopped on another c0ck.

The bottomline is women can be attracted to you, have plans with you but the instant they meet another man or a man that was in the background comes on to them the plans they made and you are discarded as thoughtlessly and quickly as used toilet paper.

Now, who is treating who with less respect and value than a dog? I would say it's women treating men that way. So it's hilarious that some cap'n-save-ho came in here to object to the idea that women deserve the same treatment and respect they offer to men. Danger did a good job of dealing with that nonsense. The fact that women end up as single mothers just demonstrates that women act emotionally/impulsively and can't make sound choices and decisions. Any woman who wanted a relationship could have one if she dated within her league and had the right attitude and put some effort into it.

Another aside, do you know how many girls will act all into you and fvck on the first meet up and never want to see you again? It's a damm good thing that men aren't the ones that get pregnant or we'd all be single dads lol. Like I said women are mostly single and mothers by choice or their own prerogative.

Good points Danger. I would submit that women are nowadays completely running society if even opaquely or through men, and men are just responding to what women "want" or respond to. And all social problems, especially all the problems between the sexes of today are because of this.

What is commonly known to guarantee no sex with females? Be truely interested in her, be nice etc. What do women really want and not just claim that they want? Apparently to feel attraction and have sexual encounters with "hot guys" who are out of the girls' league. Obviously, every girl can't have an one-on-one monogamous relationship with a small percentage of men not even in the short term.

It's women who demanded this. They demanded to be independent of any one man and to live their life acting emotionally/impulsively without anyone placing any responsibilities, expectations or consequences on that behavior.

But the responsibilities and consequences for women doing what comes natural for them don't just disappear. They are shifted on to men in various shapes and forms.

Anyway, this girl in question just texted me out of the blue, "Sorry! things have been a bit crazy. did you have a good weekend.." My translation, "Been having crazy sex with someone else, do I have you on a string to validate my ego and for potential back up?"

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." Henry david thoreau

thats what were so scared of, were scared of the possibility that were only wanted in this society because of all the things we do to sustain it, we have a creeping suspision that in the event that a society could somehow build and sustain itself without the contributions of men, that its only a matter of time before that society would seek to expel its men.

male civilizationale draw: and define it as a force chaaracteristic to all civilizations exerted onto the totality of its men as though an industrial resource, for the betterment of the men women and children, in the civilation but at the expense of only men, which is designed to maximize male innovation.


Rather than honestly looking at what appears to be a reality in which the totality of females view the totality of men as an unfeeling and untiring renewable resource, to be drawn upon, we place our faith in the female, or rather the individual female, who would never think to use us. this is why we as men tend to magnify even the most trivial acts of kindness from women as being proof positive... or rather disproof positive of the overall trend of female usury in regards to men

is my assessment wrong, my prognosis to grim? too much of an exaggeration? you do know that the majority of homeless are men, why?... for all the reasons i just gave you, because if single mothers where the majority of homeless youd see a society up in arms

we all know that there are women having children they cannot pay for because they know that welfare, and wic and food-stamps will pay their way, its no secret, the question... is why are these programs put into place?... its simple, we care when women are out on the streets, but when men are out on the streets, its somehow their fault accross the board regardless of individual circumstances because of civilizational male draw.

this is no plea for sympathy, just a wake up call, you can choose to look for your own private little paradise on earth in the form of a woman that most likely doesn't exist, or you can start to exert pressure onto society by refusing to feed it, stop being scared that you might not ever find the right woman, and start being scared, and then angry that society is using you on multiple fronts without consent.

Danger said:

Because recognizing reality makes one a douchebag who blames women? Yes, more ad hominem attacks from you, yet nothing tangible to debate my actual statements.




Who said all women are bad? I just said there is a recent study that showed the link between their voting habits and their menstrual cycle. And I also pointed out *everyone* need to pay the price of the woman's decision to open her legs to a poor mate choice.

That is reality. As much as you want to hate me for pointing it out.






I love women, but unlike you I am not stupid enough to confuse the recognition of reality with hate.


What is most obvious of all, is that you flee from mere words, like the white-knight mangina coward you are.

God, AFC's and rAFC's are so fvking stupid and cowardly sometimes. It really is sickening.

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In which reality do women have the rights of a family dog? This was the point you were defending.

How do you formulate logic in your head? You have absolutely no basis for anything you are saying and just calling me an AFC doesn't make you right. Your assumed position as a "Non-AFC" just proves how little and fragile your ego is because you think AFC's are some terrible sub beings. You used to be one too, you waste of life.

We are all culpable on some level and blaming it on women and calling for their rights to be restricted as to that of a family dog is not man like. In fact the coward is you, for being unwilling to face the fact that you do not possess the moral high ground on these women that you despise so much. You are just as despicable, but its all part of the game.

Looks like I have another flake. I made plans with this girl around 7pm tonight to meet up at 11pm and it doesn't look like she is going to show. She is 24 and I would've liked to met up with her tonight.

I turned down another offer to meet up tonight from a different girl because I thought I had plans tonight. Silly me to think a girl could keep a plan for more than a couple hours. That's what pisses you off is the forfieting of other opportunites.


I don't get a lot of flakes but this is 2nd in about 3 days. Most women treat men much worse than they would their dog. Why do women deserve much better than they would offer to men? Women don't think men should deserve any respect because women know themselves don't deserve any.

Stagger Lee said:

Looks like I have another flake. I made plans with this girl around 7pm tonight to meet up at 11pm and it doesn't look like she is going to show. She is 24 and I would've liked to met up with her tonight.

I turned down another offer to meet up tonight from a different girl because I thought I had plans tonight. Silly me to think a girl could keep a plan for more than a couple hours. That's what pisses you off is the forfieting of other opportunites.


I don't get a lot of flakes but this is 2nd in about 3 days. Most women treat men much worse than they would their dog. Why do women deserve much better than they would offer to men? Women don't think men should deserve any respect because women know themselves don't deserve any.

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I've had 5 flakes in a row on a few weekends ago. I deleted all their numbers and had a couple reschedule the week after. I've hadn't had a date in a couple weeks, but picked up 2 numbers through my social circle and 2 from salsa classes. I dropped a plate that wanted a relationship and had one that showed INCREDIBLY high interest, only to go cold in a week.

I have been developing a much more indifferent attitude since then. It has shown with my communications with these recent numbers I've received. They have been texting me non-stop, but I ignore most of it. One of them asked me if I wanted to grab drinks last Friday, I told her that I had dinner plans, even though I spent the night going through the EMC Isilon product line. She texted me the entire weekend, which I rarely responded to.

The other numbers, I would playfully text and they always initiated the conversations. I played the sext game and they ALL dressed up and put on/pose in what I responded. I've met these women initially, but have yet to ask them out. The moment you could care less about these women, that's when they give you their attention.

BeginningDJ said:

I've had 5 flakes in a row on a few weekends ago. I deleted all their numbers and had a couple reschedule the week after. I've hadn't had a date in a couple weeks, but picked up 2 numbers through my social circle and 2 from salsa classes. I dropped a plate that wanted a relationship and had one that showed INCREDIBLY high interest, only to go cold in a week.

I have been developing a much more indifferent attitude since then. It has shown with my communications with these recent numbers I've received. They have been texting me non-stop, but I ignore most of it. One of them asked me if I wanted to grab drinks last Friday, I told her that I had dinner plans, even though I spent the night going through the EMC Isilon product line. She texted me the entire weekend, which I rarely responded to.

The other numbers, I would playfully text and they always initiated the conversations. I played the sext game and they ALL dressed up and put on/pose in what I responded. I've met these women initially, but have yet to ask them out. The moment you could care less about these women, that's when they give you their attention.

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It's pathetic how women only respond to guys that don't seem interested in them. I agree there's power in indifference but it's a hollow power I think. Indifference only gets me so far though. I still have to put in a lot of effort into meeting girls and trying to escalate on them. In some ways women are even lower than the family dog and more on the level of the family cat.

If you were told you can't have something, wouldn't that make you pursue it more? That is what being indifferent does, it separates you from the other orbiters who give her the attention. She does not know she "has" you and keeps her head thinking. If you are a firm believer in plate spinning, indifference is the driving force behind it.

Right but I believe indifference is mostly just icing on the cake. You have to have attraction before it matters. Indifference alone doesn't cause attraction. Indifference, push/pull, indirect game etc, I use them but they only work or matter if you have attraction to begin with. I find when I have attraction I don't need much indifference or at least I don't have to think about being indifferent.