A night of REJECTION: Loved every bit of it!

Okay, so I figured I'd try out what everyone was talking about here, going to a club by myself. I was heavily against this, but now I think I'll try it out more often.

Approach #1: First REJECTION


So I'm on the transit bus, listening to Pantera, 10's ... Girl walks on, that I notice, me being a little tipsy beforehand, didn't remember that she is some BPD-type weirdo chick that lives a few streets away from me, so I went and sat next to her.

Mad Ghost: I saw you get on, and thought you where cute, thought I'd say Hi .......HI!
Her: (laughs and smiles) Hi....
Mad Ghost: What trouble are you causing tonight? ...are you not out?
Her: I'm going to my boyfriends
Mad Ghost: Oh okay, what are you guys doing tonight?
Her: Sorry what did you say, (laughs) you speak really fast?
Mad Ghost: (Repeats)
Her: Oh .....Quiet night IN.
Mad Ghost: Awesome .........is that the usual weekend?
Her: Umm kinda, what about you? where are you going?
Mad Ghost: meeting some buddies at a bar tonight..........
Her: Have you been smoking weed?
Mad Ghost: Umm, no ....
Her: Hmmm, I can smell weed
Mad Ghost: I don't smoke, but I can smell alcohol
Her: (laughs) ..can you smell it, Yeah I've been drinking
Her: So what about you, no girlfriend?
Mad Ghost: (Laughs) I didn't say I didn't have one? (shows her HICKIES on my neck)
Her: Oh my god! what is that (She stares) dont talk to me, oh my god, (laughs)
Mad Ghost: (smirks) what?
Her: (silence)
Mad Ghost: Where does you're boyfriend live?
Her: (location)
Her: I don't think you should talk to me anymore
Me: What?
Her (Repeats) I dont know if you're just talking to me cos you're bored orrr...
Mad Ghost: Thats exactly what i'm doing .....I'm bored, what? did you think i wanted you're number or something
Her: Well, I don't know?
Mad Ghost: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kay? weird (changes seats)
Her: (gets embarassed) .......(looks at me from the reflection on the window)

It's not until I remembered her face, that she is some weirdo girl who DRINKS every weekend, she even had makeup on her eyelashes, I was too tipsy to not recognize her.

Approach #2:

So I get to the club by myself, about 10 minutes away from me........

Lots of ugly guys there .....I thought this'll be a piece of cake. :kick:

So I buy me a double shot of vodka, watch abit of CNN that was showing on the screens. This CHUBBY chick at the bar comes up, orders her drinks that a guy BOUGHT her. She justs stands there, thinking she is MISS WORLD.

There was NO INITIAL CONVERSATION, just body language between me and her here on.

I grab her arm (gently) and she turns around and looks at me, like WTF ...So I go right in and step into her comfort zone, she looks away, like she doesn't see me. The guy that bought her a drink, is looking at me like I know him.

So I said to myself, what the fvck is this! are you kidding me, a chubby chick, playing hard to get? Okay Okay .....

So I try again, and pull her into me, she declines AGAIN........ and then stands infront of me, points at her drink and puts her glass to my chest ....signaling me to pour her, her drink. So I pour the drink, she then steps away from me ..........:cuss:

Note: SHE IS DRUNK, ALSO THINKING SHE IS A HB.10.

So I'm confused............. I walk back up to her, but this time, I take her bottle of wine and walk off, saying "CHEERS" The ace ventura AFC that bought her the drink comes up to me and takes the bottle ..........I said to him, make sure you grab you're balls next time too.

He probably didn't hear me, cos the music was so loud, but whatever. She eventually leaves and he is there STILL buying drinks for girls.

END OF THE NIGHT: I chalk it up with the bouncers, get some LOL'S with some drunkard lunatics and had a good time............. I also wanna say that LOOKS DO NOT MATTER, I cant begin to describe how many ugly guys I saw with HB's in there .........

I'm doing this again ....!!!

looks do matter.... but like anyother tool they have to be used properly! you had no technique or strategy and approaching a drunt fattie was a bad idea too especially if you as good looking as you think

I cant begin to describe how many ugly guys I saw with HB's in there .........

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Every time I hear a guy say this, I'm always skeptical. The reason is because I don't trust a guy's opinion on whether or not some other guy is ugly. He may be ugly to us, sure, but how does he appear to females?
Women are attracted to masculine features while men are not.

For that matter, I don't think women can always tell if another girl is pretty or not. I don't know how many times I've heard a woman talk about some other girl as being ugly, while I'm sitting there thinking "no, she's actually pretty hot". Women don't always know what guys like either.

people in general overrate their own looks and underrate others - a physiological phenomenon called overconfidence. Just read 90% of the posts of people who are ranting about their lives, they almost always start out with how good looking they are.

Most guys are decent looking enough to where they can look like studs if they change their look. But i agree with Mad Ghost in the sense that you shouldnt care so much about looks, unless your not dressed for the occasion. Plus MG has an interesting point, the girls who think they're hot ****, generally aren't the super hot girls...its the ones that are less hot that try to feel that way. Many super hotties aren't like that. Sure, some are but many others...not that much. Doesnt surprise me lol.

DonGorgon said:

looks do matter.... but like anyother tool they have to be used properly! you had no technique or strategy and approaching a drunt fattie was a bad idea too especially if you as good looking as you think

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Oh! really!? so what technique and strategy should I use for future reference Gorgon?

zekko said:

Every time I hear a guy say this, I'm always skeptical. The reason is because I don't trust a guy's opinion on whether or not some other guy is ugly. He may be ugly to us, sure, but how does he appear to females?
Women are attracted to masculine features while men are not.

For that matter, I don't think women can always tell if another girl is pretty or not. I don't know how many times I've heard a woman talk about some other girl as being ugly, while I'm sitting there thinking "no, she's actually pretty hot". Women don't always know what guys like either.

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It's also a pretty bitter comment that usually indicates poor inner game. "They're ugly, why are THEY getting the hot babes and I'm not, with my superior DNA"

Did you make any other approaches, apart from going for the whale with a boyfriend?

The guys there WHERE NOT ELIGABLE TO have those chicks in my books!

Thats why the girls they where with, kept looking around, to see if anybody noticed how butt ugly they where.

I actually enjoy seeing that funnily enough, because it gives me a boost.

the guy I was chalking it up with outside, said "for this club, the girls in here, only want you for you're money ....you gotta have money bro" and he's right, everyone of the guys had atleast a X5 or X6 outside parked, and buying bottles upon bottoles of liquor. I hate when guys on HERE ......act like they don't flinch when they see HB's with ugly guys, blatently know you're better looking than them and more than likely have more game, but play good samaratan to sound good.

This was a CLUB, not a bar .....stop acting like it had anything to do with inner-game, the guys where LAME. Point blank. I've been to different clubs and seen extremnely model-type good looking guys with hot girls too. This was a particular club I went to which attracts the goons and goblins.

Othger than hitting on the bar maid ....I danced around with a few bytches, thats about it.

I agree with DonGorgon. It was like you had no planning or preparation at all.


The good thing you had going for you is that you do seem fearless,and do at least try,so sooner or later,you will get the girl.

It's inevitable. But you might want to at least have some sort of direction in mind for the interactions so you can steer the conversations in that area.




You started off bad in your first approach. The first thing you did was tell her she was cute. I mean you gave her ego a little boost,but that seemed about it. Then after boosting her ego,you went straight into comfort,no attraction at all.




And if that wasn't enough,she had the stronger frame.



What's the WHOLE PURPOSE of an approach? It's to ultimately get the girl to agree to and go out on a date with you,right?




That's the purpose of the approach,but you never got around to talking about that.




You got hung up talking about her and her boyfriend instead of you and her.




You asked her...

what her and her boyfriend were going to do
where he lives
if that's their typical weekend


Now I know that when you first saw her and decided to step to her,this conversation centered around her boyfriend is NOT what you had in mind.




It just wondered into this area because YOU DIDN'T direct it onto where you truely wanted it to go.


And in addition to all that,she had NO IDEA why you were speaking to her.



She may not need to know from the getgo,but she at least needs to feel comfortable speaking to you up until she does find out.





As for the second approach,to me,the best part was you simply trying.

Other than that,it was just plain HORRID.



You said that there were "lots of ugly guys",and for that reason,you thought it'd be a piece of cake. Turns out that piece of cake was actually a slice of humble pie.




You made the same mistake I used to make.

You think women are like YOU.




So to YOU,if a guy is ugly,then you LOGICALLY THINK that women would want nothing to do with him,but women are EMOTIONAL.



When it comes to sexual attraction,girls go by how they FEEL.

WE GUYS are the ones who go by appearance. To a certain degree,yes,women are influenced by a guy's looks,but their emotions supercedes that.



You said that there was no initial conversation to start off the second approach,so the first contact between you two was you (gently) grabbing her arm.



And you seemed shocked when she looked at you like,"what the hell do you think you're doing?".




Not only did you grab some stranger's arm,but you also proceeded to step into her comfort zone.



And on top of those two blunder,she suckered YOU into pouring her another drink. you poured it,then she just turned and walked away,lol,sort of a mini-test,that YOU FAILED.

The Mad Ghost said:

The guys there WHERE NOT ELIGABLE TO have those chicks in my books!

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They weren't eligable according to your books? Wow.

I guess it's a good thing they didn't know that.

The Mad Ghost said:

Thats why the girls they where with, kept looking around, to see if anybody noticed how butt ugly they where.

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Hmm. You seem to have a nack for knowing what women think.

The Mad Ghost said:

I actually enjoy seeing that funnily enough, because it gives me a boost.

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So you get a "boost" when you see a supposed "ugly guy" and a girl together,and the girl looks around to see if others notice how "butt ugly" her guy is.



That's interesting. You get a boost from it. The "ugly" guy has A GIRL on his arm. He has a woman. And instead of you working on yourself to be able to go out and attract a girl you can be with,your focus is on how ugly the boyfriends of other girls are.


Wow.

The Mad Ghost said:

I hate when guys on HERE ......act like they don't flinch when they see HB's with ugly guys, blatently know you're better looking than them and more than likely have more game, but play good samaratan to sound good.

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This is foolish.


Of course we notice if a "ugly" guy has an attractive woman,but that's THEM.


That's THEIR life.
That's THEIR relationship.
That's THEIR business.



What are we supposed to do? Run up to the girl and go,"Hey,why are you with him? I'm taller than he is. I'm better looking. You should be with me."?



Instead of running some dude down because he has a girl but doesn't look the way you think he should,maybe you could watch how he operates and learn a thing or two.

The Mad Ghost said:

So I get to the club by myself, about 10 minutes away from me........

Lots of ugly guys there .....I thought this'll be a piece of cake. :kick:

So I buy me a double shot of vodka, watch abit of CNN that was showing on the screens. This CHUBBY chick at the bar comes up, orders her drinks that a guy BOUGHT her. She justs stands there, thinking she is MISS WORLD.

There was NO INITIAL CONVERSATION, just body language between me and her here on.

I grab her arm (gently) and she turns around and looks at me, like WTF ...So I go right in and step into her comfort zone, she looks away, like she doesn't see me. The guy that bought her a drink, is looking at me like I know him.

So I said to myself, what the fvck is this! are you kidding me, a chubby chick, playing hard to get? Okay Okay .....

So I try again, and pull her into me, she declines AGAIN........ and then stands infront of me, points at her drink and puts her glass to my chest ....signaling me to pour her, her drink. So I pour the drink, she then steps away from me ..........:cuss:

Note: SHE IS DRUNK, ALSO THINKING SHE IS A HB.10.

So I'm confused............. I walk back up to her, but this time, I take her bottle of wine and walk off, saying "CHEERS" The ace ventura AFC that bought her the drink comes up to me and takes the bottle ..........I said to him, make sure you grab you're balls next time too.

He probably didn't hear me, cos the music was so loud, but whatever. She eventually leaves and he is there STILL buying drinks for girls.

END OF THE NIGHT: I chalk it up with the bouncers, get some LOL'S with some drunkard lunatics and had a good time............. I also wanna say that LOOKS DO NOT MATTER, I cant begin to describe how many ugly guys I saw with HB's in there .........

I'm doing this again ....!!!

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This story is crazy on so many levels. First of all, what kind of a CLUB has CNN on the screens? When you say "club", you mean nightclub, right? Not a country club full of 70-year-olds? Second, why on earth are you even hitting on CHUBBY chicks? Have you got no standards whatsoever? Chubby chicks exist for one reason and one reason only - one day, there might be a worldwide drought and we'll run out of provisions. When that day comes, the chubbies will be worth their weight in gold. Until then, treat them like they don't even exist. Third, why are you doing tricks on command (pouring the drink) like some kind of a trained animal? Guys like you are the reason why even the ugliest chicks think they are the sh*t.

The Mad Ghost said:

the guy I was chalking it up with outside, said "for this club, the girls in here, only want you for you're money ....you gotta have money bro" and he's right, everyone of the guys had atleast a X5 or X6 outside parked, and buying bottles upon bottoles of liquor. I hate when guys on HERE ......act like they don't flinch when they see HB's with ugly guys, blatently know you're better looking than them and more than likely have more game, but play good samaratan to sound good.

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Sure, an ugly guy can get a hot girl if he's loaded and she's a hooker. The women you see in nightclubs hanging out with rich guys in the VIP section are often escorts or 'semi-prostitute' types (women who don't get paid cash but f*ck guys for drinks, entertainment, gifts, vacations, etc.) If that's your best argument for the notion that looks don't matter, you don't have much of an argument.

You also have to remember that a guy hanging around with a girl doesn't mean they're 'together.'

I was with a girl a couple of weeks ago hand-in-hand/arm-in-arm, all night. I'm not banging her, as much as I want to be. I also know of several situations like this that happen regularly . . a guy and girl just going out.

J.F. said:

Sure, an ugly guy can get a hot girl if he's loaded and she's a hooker. The women you see in nightclubs hanging out with rich guys in the VIP section are often escorts or 'semi-prostitute' types (women who don't get paid cash but f*ck guys for drinks, entertainment, gifts, vacations, etc.) If that's your best argument for the notion that looks don't matter, you don't have much of an argument.

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Eh. That's a mindset for the weak. There are a number of unattractive men who can get hot women without being rich or famous.

For one thing, hot women aren't always super confident in their looks. They can be very insecure creatures.

And secondly, women are emotional. If you're ugly, but her "emotions" find other value in you, then she'll like you just fine.

Yeah, if you're ugly, lack talent, and are boring to be around, then girls won't like you. But where us guys put value on women mostly for looks, women will like you for any variety of reasons. Humor. Charm. Talent. Intelligence.

Iceberg said:

Eh. That's a mindset for the weak. There are a number of unattractive men who can get hot women without being rich or famous.

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Mindset for the weak? I don't think you quite understand what I'm talking about. A lot of women you see in clubs are PROSTITUTES - you know, women who have sex for money? They are more upscale than the the cut rate hookers that flag you down as you're driving through skid row, but it's the same concept. If you can convince a hooker to f*ck you for free, more power to ya, but I think most men would be better off focusing their energy elsewhere.

J.F. said:

Mindset for the weak? I don't think you quite understand what I'm talking about. A lot of women you see in clubs are PROSTITUTES - you know, women who have sex for money? They are more upscale than the the cut rate hookers that flag you down as you're driving through skid row, but it's the same concept. If you can convince a hooker to f*ck you for free, more power to ya, but I think most men would be better off focusing their energy elsewhere.

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You're quite stupid aren't you?

Iceberg said:

You're quite stupid aren't you?

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Says a guy who's been on this site for 8 years and still asks questions like "How much time between dates?" LMAO.

The Mad Ghost said:

Oh! really!? so what technique and strategy should I use for future reference Gorgon?

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stay away from fatties..