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Just a Shot Away · Apr 6, 2010

Falcon25 said:
A good looking guy will never have problems laying women

I have never met a male that was worse with women than me. I had a girl tell me I was hot...(it's 2:47 a.m. right now) yesterday. A few days before that, two good-looking female customers at my work said they were going to rape me. Check my profile for a sample headshot of myself. I've been rejected by 100% of the women that I've ever put myself on the line for. I'm almost 30 and still haven't hit 10 F-closes (not by choice). I'm not the only proof in the pudding that you're severely misinformed, either. There's several other people on this site with relatively symmetrical faces that have PLENTY of "problems laying women."

You are dead wrong, sorry. You sound like me when I was 14. That is, before I did my homework and learned the fundamentals of evolutionary science.

Jitterbug · Apr 6, 2010

Heh, my good mate is a male 10 in looks, son of a 10 father and a 10 mother. He's also a Natural with top Game. Great guy to hang out with, if your ego can deal with the fact that he gets hit on every minute walking down the street in the city. I've never seen so many DDB eyes on a guy in the same night.

And yes he has too good manners to turn all the ladies down. That bastard has had lots & lots of really beautiful babes. He's now in a LTR though, with a babe that originally shot him down for a few years. Must be a first for him.

Jariel · Apr 6, 2010

What's stopping you from working out, grooming well and making the most of your looks?

Good looks are not all about genetics. Look at the hot women in the media. For many of them, their attractiveness is largely based on their slim figure, make up, white teeth, good hair and grooming. Although make up is a step too far (for most hetero guys anyway) there's a lot you can do to enhance your appearance.

Plus, when you look good, you feel good and get a natural and genuine confidence boost.

Ronnie Poleman · Apr 6, 2010

BigJimbo said:
Gay. Male model and acts. :crackup:

Lol, comments like that don't really help the OP.

Schwank, the point is not to get jealous of guys whom you perceive as being better looking than you, but instead to let them help you get more girls. Even hanging around them without them actively being your wingman can be good enough as social proof. Unless your good looking wingman has threesomes or orgies with these girls, if he is with a group of girls, and gets with 1 of them, inevitably that leaves you to pick from the rest of the HBs, the 2nd hottest HB will still be hot lol!

BigJimbo · Apr 6, 2010

COD said:
nothing worse than all FLASH AND NO SUBSTANCE...............

i find hot chics have the most drama..........and they aint always the best between the sheets.

it aint fair that good looking people get instant acceptance.........but life aint fair.......HENCE THE REASON "GAME" WAS CREATED.

It seems like the good looking beautiful people would be awesome........cause we are on the outside looking in...........in reality...........they really aint all that. Some are annoying, vain, superficial, high maintenance, low intelligence, etc.........the list goes on and on.

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I would have agreed with you if I didn't travel to Ukraine all the time. That place makes you wonder :crazy: Trust me, if you boys only knew. You would be at the bookstore buying Russian language books and saving your money. No straight man visits Ukraine just once

Amazing · Apr 6, 2010

BigJimbo said:
I would have agreed with you if I didn't travel to Ukraine all the time. That place makes you wonder :crazy: Trust me, if you boys only knew. You would be at the bookstore buying Russian language books and saving your money. No straight man visits Ukraine just once

I do know. Russian and Ukrainian girls are some of the biggest wh0res in the world.

Just a Shot Away · Apr 6, 2010

BigJimbo said:
Trust me, if you boys only knew. You would be at the bookstore buying Russian language books and saving your money. No straight man visits Ukraine just once

You are such a flamer, dude. You're fucking obsessed with the Ukraine. You give terrible advice, 80% of your posts are about bashing America and/or crying about how great Ukraine is despite the population shrinking at a rate of 150,000 people a year due to having THE highest death rate in Europe and THE lowest birth rate in Europe mainly because of the shitass health care system and alarming poverty levels.

All this combined with the fact that you have never started a thread or given a single piece of useful advice. I can't decide what the better question is: "Why do you continue to post here?", or "why do the mods continue to LET your sorry ass post here?"

Jariel said:
Plus, when you look good, you feel good and get a natural and genuine confidence boost.

QFT. Worrying about improving your appearance is exponentially more important than worry about whether or not the length of your face is 1.6x larger than the width of your face.

The Spider · Apr 6, 2010

shove a hot poker up that fags ass

FireOnTheMountain · Apr 6, 2010

Well, I didn't read the full thread, but...

Why don't you look at some of the other stuff he does? If his workout plan is effective and you want to go after the same results, try going to the gym with him. See if you can find out what he eats and how often, etc.

Learn from this guy's success if he's onto something good.

FireOnTheMountain · Apr 6, 2010

Just a Shot Away said:
You are such a flamer, dude. You're fucking obsessed with the Ukraine. You give terrible advice, 80% of your posts are about bashing America and/or crying about how great Ukraine is despite the population shrinking at a rate of 150,000 people a year due to having THE highest death rate in Europe and THE lowest birth rate in Europe mainly because of the shitass health care system and alarming poverty levels.

All this combined with the fact that you have never started a thread or given a single piece of useful advice. I can't decide what the better question is: "Why do you continue to post here?", or "why do the mods continue to LET your sorry ass post here?"

QFT. Worrying about improving your appearance is exponentially more important than worry about whether or not the length of your face is 1.6x larger than the width of your face.

Plus, Ukrainian is not the same language as Russian.

Drum&Bass · Apr 6, 2010

Well since he's your cousin you gotta spend time with him. If you 2 go out to a bar or a club you might get lucky and bump into a group of girls and hopefully one of the girls in the group will be into you but....

Before you even worry about girls...I sense i deeper underlying issue. If your a good looking guy but you can't girls you might be lacking social skills.

I always tell guys if you wanna be good with the ladies learn how to make friends with people. Knowing how to make people feel good when they talk to you is the key when it comes to human behavior. People like being around other people that make them feel good.

I think you need to learn how to speak to people and make friends or at least the illusion of friendship in a short amount of time.

Here is a good starting point ! read or listen to this audio book and it will work wonders for your social life !!

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650

Poonani Maker · Apr 6, 2010

JLay87 said:
People are attracted to one another based on the information they receive regarding someone else. Even if one has limited information about another, they will process what little they have and base their determination of attraction on that.

The most accessible information about another is their looks. This is because I don't have to know or even meet you to receive this information. It is 99% of the time the first information we receive about one another, because it only requires a glance.

Once we see somebody, we start processing the information received and begin to form an idea of who that person is. This, now, starts going further than mere looks, and actually is much deeper and more profound (and therefore more difficult) to dissect and analyze. Essentially, we start forming an idea of what that person's personality is like based on how they act, their movements, their attitude, etc... We pick up on all of the conscious and unconscious movements and actions of others and use these to form a basis of how we perceive that person to actually be. In other words, we're picking up on the energy of others and using it to appraise what status that person has.

This is a pretty convoluted post, I think, but my point is that, while your friend has looks going for him, and will receive the initial attraction based on it, you can easily get to where he is at or even surpass him by giving off the correct energy/attitude. The reason that this wasn't happening was because he was giving off comparatively superior energy than you, which is probably due to the fact that you lowered yourself under him by acknowledging his superiority.

I agree with JLay...You could have the same appeal of confidence in looks your cousin probably has. I get the Same "girls looking down, primping, preening, whatever" all the time, no matter the female's age. When they see that I don't have a ring on my finger, if I'm not wearing gloves, they hone in even further. The money, the looks, the status, it ALL appeals to these Wh0rez, which is basically what Most western women are. They're all fvcked and comparing who they're with. I feel sorry for husbands who's wives see me throughout the day. You know they've got to be second-guessing themselves after experiencing my presence, no matter how dreamt up a presence they bestowed upon me - who is not worthy of such aggrandizement. If they knew who I REALLY am, they'd not want me, and eventually they do not want me, which is why I have problems landing the hb8 thru 10 in the long-term. They eventually find out that I'm not all who I've been dreamt up to be, despite my status, my good looks, my money.

But money is nice. I Never spend it on them, almost entirely on myself, my charities, my church, those in need, for mission trips and such. The main thing is to keep em hoping. Hope hope hoping for that mythical book(s) they've been reading, that you're IT, hiding reality, all the while banging them. Let them keep dreaming while you're, "living the dream." It's all about keeping women in the dark if you want to keep her long-term. That's how MY grandfather kept my grandmother, and YOUR grandfather kept your grandmother, just simply taking what she or her sisters said with a grain of salt. Their minds just can't go to the places ours go.

nismo-4 · Apr 7, 2010

Falcon25 said:
A good looking guy will never have problems laying women
A rich man will never have problems laying women
A man who has something a woman needs will never have problems laying women
Finally, a confident, ugly, short, bald man MAY not have problems laying women.

Life is a lot easier, when it comes to women, if you have the first three. You don't need a DJ bible to figure that out. The fact that you NEEDED the Djbible to get women, is proof in itself. The three that I mentioned up there, don't need anything but a half ass personality to go with it.

@ FireOnTheMountain: Ukranian is similar to Russian, just like Serbian and Bulgarian. They all use the Cyrillic Alphabet.

@ COD; You rock! :rockon:

@ Jitterbug; This is the sexy son theory. I heard a rumor that if 2 ugly people make a baby, the DNA gets confused and the child comes out sexy as hell! What seems to happen is that women go short term with bad boys, and when they get knocked up and are ready to settle down, they marry the AFC.

@ Falcon; QFT! I can't believe they deleted your other thread entirely. Life is a lot easier in general if you have either looks, status, or money. You get respected more, even though you will still have people hatin' on you. That can't be eliminated. But you're guaranteed a woman, no matter what.

I knew someone a while back who was tormented a lot and couldn't get a date if his life depended on it. But next thing I saw, we went into a casino in Kenner, Louisiana (He called it the Casino Night Zone) and hit a 2 million dollar jackpot! I watched in amazement at that and we had to be escorted out of the door so that we wouldn't be hounded for a piece of that change. But girls were going begging to go out with this guy and with me just because of the jackpot! I wasn't surprised when he took me to the Mercedes dealership and he bought a brand new E-class with cash! God damn!

Falcon, you forgot to mention that if you're in the Elite 8% of all males, women will hardly cheat on you. Personality means very little unless the girl gives you a shot or is attracted to you in some way.

Just a Shot Away · Apr 7, 2010

nismo-4 said:
@ Falcon; QFT! I can't believe they deleted your oher thread entirely. Life is a lot easier in general if you have either looks, status, or money.

1) Not the same falcon. I think I successfully persuaded the other falcon to examine the facts.

2) Life is only easier for attractive WOMEN. I won't go into detail. Trust me. Women get FAR more advantages for having a symmetrical face than men do. That's not even debateable.

Personality means very little unless the girl gives you a shot or is attracted to you in some way.

Dude, how many times have we been over this in how many other "Do looks matter?" threads. Personality IS attraction for women. Personality is the female equivalent of looks for men. Football is to men as shopping is to women. Logic is to men and emotions is to women. LOOKS are to men as PERSONALITY/CONFIDENCE is to women. This is the natural order of things as it has been for thousands of years. It's not gonna change anytime soon, either.

Falcon25 · Apr 7, 2010

nismo-4 said:
@ FireOnTheMountain: Ukranian is similar to Russian, just like Serbian and Bulgarian. They all use the Cyrillic Alphabet.

@ COD; You rock! :rockon:

@ Jitterbug; This is the sexy son theory. I heard a rumor that if 2 ugly people make a baby, the DNA gets confused and the child comes out sexy as hell! What seems to happen is that women go short term with bad boys, and when they get knocked up and are ready to settle down, they marry the AFC.

@ Falcon; QFT! I can't believe they deleted your oher thread entirely. Life is a lot easier in general if you have either looks, status, or money. You get respected more, even though you will still have people hatin' on you. That can't be eliminated. But you're guaranteed a woman, no matter what.

I knew someone a while back who was tormented a lot and couldn't get a date if his life depended on it. But next thing I saw, we went into a casino in Kenner, Louisiana (He called it the Casino Night Zone) and hit a 2 million dollar jackpot! I watched in amazement at that and we had to be escorted out of the door so that we wouldn't be hounded for a piece of that change. But girls were going begging to go out with this guy and with me just because of the jackpot! I wasn't surprised when he took me to the Mercedes dealership and he bought a brand new E-class with cash! God damn!

Falcon, you forgot to mention that if you're in the Elite 8% of all males, women will hardly cheat on you. Personality means very little unless the girl gives you a shot or is attracted to you in some way.

Hi Nismo,

Don't let it fool you. If anyone tells you different, they are in denial or are ugly and broke. What I said is true everywhere in the world. Personality is good an all but that means you are still WORKING to get women. A dashingly handsome man, or a rich man, or a club owner just has TO SHOW UP.

Just a Shot Away · Apr 7, 2010

Falcon25 said:
A dashingly handsome man, or a rich man, or a club owner just has TO SHOW UP.

You sound so, so ignorant man. It's almost as if...you haven't done any research on this subject at all. Even guys with a rudimentary understanding of seduction or evolutionary science knows that being "dashing" does not equate to bush.

Even guys with money or owners of "clubs" have to DO something. The only exception is if the guy makes it KNOWN that he has money, i.e. makes sure everyone sees him role up in the Lambo and/or starts throwing around bills at the venue like crazy...and even then, only the trashy chicks will throw themselves at the dude. As far as having a symmetrical face goes, you truly sound like someone who is not speaking from personal experience. Instead of coming here and spreading around garbage like this, how about you go do some Googling of some real basic stuff like "Darwin", "sexual selection", and "differences between men and women". Or just read the DJ Bible ffs. Why are you even posting here without having read it?

synergy1 · Apr 7, 2010

Iceberg said:
I'd rather go out on a weekend night with my good-looking, cool friends than my goofball, out of shape friends. I think girls would rather talk to a guy rolling with a pack of cool dudes than a guy from a pack of misfits. And besides, when one of my team is doing well with girls, then we all tend to. It's not like we're walking around stealing from each other. Girls roll in packs, and so do we.

But with that said, it's all up to you. You can't blame any potential dating woes on hanging out with your cousin. If you're making the right moves on a girl, she'll like you more. Looks only get you so far.

^^^ agreed here.

In college, I met a few friends like this. They weren't banging 10s, but their game, style and everything was considerably more refined than mine. To me, it was interesting seeing the new perspective, that and they were cool dudes. We all became friends, and eventually lived in the same house in a college town (****show btw - we are talking chicks at topless dance parties), and even traveled as a group to Europe, the Caribbean and the like.

So their game was better than mine? I don't have an ego and take that **** personally. Instead I learned and got better for it. I suggest you listen to the fellow posters, and my story and put your ego aside and hang out w/ him if he's a cool dude.

Falcon25 · Apr 7, 2010

Just a Shot Away said:
You sound so, so ignorant man. It's almost as if...you haven't done any research on this subject at all. Even guys with a rudimentary understanding of seduction or evolutionary science knows that being "dashing" does not equate to bush.

Even guys with money or owners of "clubs" have to DO something. The only exception is if the guy makes it KNOWN that he has money, i.e. makes sure everyone sees him role up in the Lambo and/or starts throwing around bills at the venue like crazy...and even then, only the trashy chicks will throw themselves at the dude. As far as having a symmetrical face goes, you truly sound like someone who is not speaking from personal experience. Instead of coming here and spreading around garbage like this, how about you go do some Googling of some real basic stuff like "Darwin", "sexual selection", and "differences between men and women". Or just read the DJ Bible ffs. Why are you even posting here without having read it?

You seriously have no idea about real life. Keep reading that djbible. haha For those of us who have experienced life, we know exactly what goes on out there. And try not to disrespect your elders by saying we are ignorant. Us older guys know much more than you think we do. So keep reading Darwin and sexual selection. Or you can open your eyes. Either way, I don't give fuvk what you do.

2crudedudes · Apr 7, 2010

Just a Shot Away said:
You are such a flamer, dude. You're fucking obsessed with the Ukraine. You give terrible advice, 80% of your posts are about bashing America and/or crying about how great Ukraine is despite the population shrinking at a rate of 150,000 people a year due to having THE highest death rate in Europe and THE lowest birth rate in Europe mainly because of the shitass health care system and alarming poverty levels.

All this combined with the fact that you have never started a thread or given a single piece of useful advice. I can't decide what the better question is: "Why do you continue to post here?", or "why do the mods continue to LET your sorry ass post here?"

QFT. Worrying about improving your appearance is exponentially more important than worry about whether or not the length of your face is 1.6x larger than the width of your face.

Regardless of jimbo's posting history, what does the health care system have anything to do with picking up chicks in Ukraine? Birth and death rates? All I wanna do is bang the b*tches, not move to the country...

Just a Shot Away · Apr 7, 2010

Falcon25 said:
You seriously have no idea about real life. Keep reading that djbible. haha For those of us who have experienced life, we know exactly what goes on out there.

That's right. Charles Darwin, myself, and thousands of other scientists across the world have no idea how females in the animal kingdom select their mates. That honor is reserved for Falcon25. Nevermind 150 years of hard data and research. Falcon25 knows what's REALLY going on, here. And if you're so anti-seduction...it begs the question: what the hell are you doing on my site?

And try not to disrespect your elders by saying we are ignorant. Us older guys know much more than you think we do.

Bro, I'm two years younger than you. This hardly warrants a ridiculous attempt at condescension by going the "elder" route. And you ARE ignorant. Seriously. Check the dictionary. You are unaware of the facts about sexual selection, which makes you ignorant. Don't blame me. Blame Random House.

So keep reading Darwin and sexual selection. Or you can open your eyes. Either way, I don't give fuvk what you do.

Yes. I will continue to live in the land of facts, evidence and proof and read the writings of respected scientists and pickup gurus while you continue to live in the land of hunches, theory, and conjecture. Everyone's happy (so long as you don't continue to spread misinformation on the Internet). Oh, and I'll open my eyes any time once you post a picture of yourself so we can get a better idea of your frame of reference when you mention your extensive "personal experience" on "dashing" men.

2crudedudes said:
Regardless of jimbo's posting history, what does the health care system have anything to do with picking up chicks in Ukraine? Birth and death rates?

I was pointing out what an absurd notion it is to spam anti-American/pro-Ukrainian propaganda when the nation is unable to even sustain life. I'm sure it's a great place to visit, but there's a reason the world is entering the U.S. illegally in droves as opposed to trying to pack themselves in bloody Ukraine.

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