The word, "SLUT"

Wyldfire said:

I guess I can see how some guys would be more promiscuous than women just because they are wired differently and it's more physical to them...but the multiple partners is just so risky. I just don't see the draw in it...

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That reminds me, I have a problem with the old excuse that "It's only natural that we try to spread our seed in as many women as possible to propagate our species. It's only natural!"

I've studied evolutionary biology extensively (bio is one of my majors), and I agree with this statement. It IS natural that we try to go out and spread our seed.

BUT, I think the ability to change out nature is one of the things that separates us from the animals and makes us human.

Chimpanzees commit infanticide. Dogs take a sh!t on the grass. Those things are natural. but we as humans do not partake in that part of nature.

Serialized3 said:

BUT, I think the ability to change out nature is one of the things that separates us from the animals and makes us human.

Chimpanzees commit infanticide. Dogs take a sh!t on the grass. Those things are natural. but we as humans do not partake in that part of nature.

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True enough to a degree, but it's the height of naiveté and hypocrisy to deny it's influence on us whether we're conscious of it or not. The truth about sluts is that every guy wants a girl to be a slut, so long as she's HIS slut. We'd all like a June Cleaver girl to be the perfect wife/mother/companoin as well as a porn star in bed. Rarely do the 2 exist in the same woman.

And now I'll turn it over to WYLDFIRE who'll now undoubtedly explain how she's the exception to this rule,..

Since when has it been appropriate for moderators to flamebait? Very mature...

while i was wating for a cab last night at 4am, this couple came up to the intersection behind me (a hot white chick, and an average black guy).....both totally wasted....

All of a sudden her phone rings, and she clumsley(sp?) answers it, repeating few words more then once, and then she said something that i was not expecting to overhear;
"I'm with somebody right now.....If it doesn't work out, i'll give you a call"

I don't care what you guys say; she is a slut in my book.

Rollo Tomassi said:

True enough to a degree, but it's the height of naiveté and hypocrisy to deny it's influence on us whether we're conscious of it or not. The truth about sluts is that every guy wants a girl to be a slut, so long as she's HIS slut. We'd all like a June Cleaver girl to be the perfect wife/mother/companoin as well as a porn star in bed. Rarely do the 2 exist in the same woman.

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Right, but I think the point of being a master DJ is the ability to qualify and find the rare women that exhibit those attributes. Would you agree?

Do you agree that "sexually open/experimental" and "Outright tramp-ass-hor" are two different things?

Serialized3 said:

Right, but I think the point of being a master DJ is the ability to qualify and find the rare women that exhibit those attributes. Would you agree?

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No. Because I think the qualified and rare women in the world are idealizations that most guys would like to say they aspire to find, but their behaviors consistently make hypocrites of them. In other words we have a tendency to see what we're looking for in a woman - a 'slut' becomes the girl who slept with you once or twice then moved on to another guy for any reason, a 'b!tch' is the girl who shot you down, and the 'woman of your dreams' is the ONE who closest fits the fantasy you think you're after (which constantly changes with your own personal conditions) after a period of deprivation.

I would argue that it's much healthier to be realistic and pragmatic in a DJ's approach with regard to who he decides to become monogamous with, always maintaining a PRIZE mentality about himself and a mature understanding that people (both men and women) more often than not will do whatever it is their conditions demand from them at that moment in their lives. Thus, the 'slut' who you'll label low quality in her 20's can be the same woman you'd want to marry after meeting her in Bible study in her 30's. It's all contingent on our conditions and what they necessitate from us - conditions and biology trump conviction every time, it all just comes down to how well we sell our decisions to others.

Serialized3 said:

Do you agree that "sexually open/experimental" and "Outright tramp-ass-hor" are two different things?

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One man's "sexual experiment" is another man's "tramp-ass-hor", it all depends on who you ask. Just remember, you can't make a ho a housewife, nor can you make a housewife a ho.

Who cares??

Are you horny? Is she horny? Are you both clean? Then there's no problem.

If the intimacy grows from it, great. If she wants to keep sexing other guys, then the intimacy isn't there, at least not yet. Keep exploring.

Admit it...the real reason that a chump doesn't like "slvtty" girls is because he feels like she wasn't enough of a challenge to score to inflate his ego. The AFC always wants to get the girl that no one else can get, so he can show off his accomplishment to the pack and hope to attain some kind of social status. "HEY! Look at me! I'm desirable because I bagged this girl!" Can't do that with a slut. She'll pork anybody.

A true Don Juan doesn't need to deflower "good girls" to feel good about himself. He takes sluts for what they are...sluts. There's nothing GOOD or BAD about that. And he doesn't assume that once-a-slut means always-a-slut, either. If she's meant to be with him, intimacy will grow as they spend time together. If it doesn't...next girl, please. A Don Juan doesn't try to de-slut a slut with things like wedding rings and moral guilt-trips.

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djSlvt said:

"Slut" is when you see a b1tch you fvck a b1tch and make other men jelous and insecure. "Slut" is me fvcking your wife and then watching your TV.


If my girl does that to me, I leave her.

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The desire for a virgin woman is an evolutionary addaptation by men that attempts to ensure paternity. One of women's mating strategies that is dangerous for men is the cuckold strategy where the woman has one man take care of her while secretly getting pregenant by others. Should this happen the male has no assurance that he has ever had any children of his own.

A man and a woman's mating strategies are different, not just in our species but in many others as well. This is why the sexual "double standard" exists - only it's not a double standard. Men-as-studs and women-as-sluts simply recognizes the REAL natural differences between men and women. We can't be held to the same standard because we are NOT the same.

There are -isms out there that want you to think that a man's desire for a virginal girl is social conditioning - it's not. The oposite is true.

Mommie's baby, daddie's maybe.

This is the Darwinian struggle in our everyday lives. The question is do you care what the future looks like? If you want the future to look like you then be careful who you choose as a mate. If not... then it doesn't matter anyway.

edger said:

"Slut" by definition is: a woman who sleeps with multiple guys. Why do I see so many posters here using this term with a negative connotation attached to it? What's wrong with a chick who sleeps with multiple guys? Nothing wrong with it. We do it all the time. It's natural. It's an essential part of a human beings functionality, both male and female. We all should be HAPPY women are putting out.

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I consider a slut a woman that sleeps with ANY type of guy. Huge difference there.

In essense...if that woman is sleeping around with drug addicts or criminals or gang bangers or losers...and she does with several and frequently (e.g. ONS). She is a slut.

Note: By the way...it is funny because I rarely (if at all) use the term slut. I rather use the term trash or "not my type".

Note: I don't want a virgin.

Wyldfire said:

You just basically summarized the same basic philosophy I have. It's funny, because I have been flamed by certain members for refusing to have sex outside of a relationship, and because I have chosen not to date because I don't want a relationship right now. As a result, I have abstained for over 6 years. I could find an attractive guy to have sex with in a matter of 5 minutes if that's what I wanted...but I don't want that because it means nothing. I don't need my ego fed or to reassure myself that I've "still got it", so what is the point? Why would I want to lead someone on or waste their time like that? I guess I can see how some guys would be more promiscuous than women just because they are wired differently and it's more physical to them...but the multiple partners is just so risky. I just don't see the draw in it...

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Six years without wanting sex? Are you sure you are not going through pre-menopause?

It is VERY hard to imagine a woman going six years without "wanting" sex. Especially when YOU have said in the past that women "sexual prime" is in her "late 30s and early 40s" (we all know that's not the case).

My point is that it contradicts your point.


That said...I prefer a woman that have self control when it comes to sexual issues. I truly do. At least for long term relationships. Saying other wise, I would be lying.

Note: Please don't view this as an attack. I'm truly curious.

Latinoman said:

Note: Please don't view this as an attack. I'm truly curious.

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Well, what many women really want is not sex itself, but sexual validation of their biological worth and control over a man.

If a woman can feel desirable from daily male sexual attention (in real life, over the net, etc), then she may not need actual sex for that.

And if she doesn't currently have a man, she doesn't need to use sex to control him.

Remember, even in a healthy young woman, her testosterone level and sex drive is like 20X lower than ours.

Sure, women may still "love sex" - but its often more for the psychological rewards:
1) Male validation
2) Control in their relationship

Than the physical ones.

If you'll notice, Wyldfire enjoys AWing in a young all-male forum and trying to exert control over men here. Which is basically what she would otherwise get from sex.

Latinoman said:

Six years without wanting sex? Are you sure you are not going through pre-menopause?

It is VERY hard to imagine a woman going six years without "wanting" sex. Especially when YOU have said in the past that women "sexual prime" is in her "late 30s and early 40s" (we all know that's not the case).

My point is that it contradicts your point.


That said...I prefer a woman that have self control when it comes to sexual issues. I truly do. At least for long term relationships. Saying other wise, I would be lying.

Note: Please don't view this as an attack. I'm truly curious.

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When women hit their 30's their desire/horniness increases dramatically for a few years. Sexual peak and fertility peak are not the same, but are often confused on this site. I was with the same man from the time I was 28 until I was 33. We had a great relationship and never even had a fight over that time...disagreed some, but never fought. I'm only illustrating that to show that there was no unhappy or negative time in the relationship at all. My sexual desire in that relationship did increase quite dramatically around 30 and it lasted at least 6 years. I honestly could not get enough sex. I hadn't been like that previously.

No, I don't have early menopause. I got screened for cervical and ovarian cancer about a year ago because it runs in my family. They checked my hormones and they are completely normal. I still menstruate every 28 days like clockwork and have never had even one symptom of menopause. My mother was still having her period in her late 50's and was going through menopause at that time. I am the youngest of 4 girls with my oldest sister being 51. Her womanly junk is still working normally. I come from very strong and resilient stock, I guess.

I have incredible self control over most of my behavior. My weaknesses are being proud and stubborn...which is why I react to attacks as I do. However, when it comes to my values I have the will of steel. I can count my sex partners on one hand. Aside from the one brief 2 week fling I had...I have never had sex outside of a relationship. My values are extremely important to me and lying, cheating and stealing are behaviors I have no tolerance for...be it in myself or others. I have abstained because I don't do casual sex. The last two men I have loved died on me...so I'm a bit hesitant to jump into anything with anyone else. That is the one actual piece of emotional baggage that I really do have. I unpack things as I go. I'm still working on unpacking this one. In the mean time...the same self control that leads me to virtually never drink and to never touch drugs in my entire life also makes it very easy for me to refrain from sex. It's a conscious choice based entirely on my morals and values. I can't speak for other women...but for myself...the first month or two without sex is kinda rough...but after that it's really not bad at all. That's not saying I won't likely half kill the next man I do have sex with, though. I just have incredible conviction and self control...that's all it is.

I have incredible self control over most of my behavior.

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After yesterday's tyrade, I must respectfully disagree.

wayword said:

If you'll notice, Wyldfire enjoys AWing in a young all-male forum and trying to exert control over men here. Which is basically what she would otherwise get from sex.

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I assure you that I get no gratification of that sort here. If I were truly an AW I would flirt. I would encourage guys who hit on me. I never flirt and I always discourage that kind of attention. I am and always have been here for one reason and one reason only...to try to help guys have better relationships with women. Nothing more, nothing less.

Desdinova said:

After yesterday's tyrade, I must respectfully disagree.

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I don't know why you feel the need to turn another thread into the same old sh*t. People are sick of it.

And as I just pointed out:

My weaknesses are being proud and stubborn...which is why I react to attacks as I do.

wayword said:

If you'll notice, Wyldfire enjoys AWing in a young all-male forum and trying to exert control over men here. Which is basically what she would otherwise get from sex.

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yeah Many of us have noticed.

Wyldfire said:

I agree on that one wholeheartedly. I think guys that have sex with a lot of women are just as nasty as women who have sex with a lot of men. If you think about it...every time you have sex with someone you aren't just having sex with them...you're having sex with everyone they have ever had sex with, too. There are so many STDs out there and the more people you sleep with, the higher your chance of having one or more STDs. The way I look at it is this...what is so special about a person who will have sex with just about anyone? They aren't much of a catch and they aren't very selective in who they share themselves with. I just think it's kinda gross. I don't see any difference between women who will have sex with men they don't even really know or have a relationship with and the men who do the same. I just think it's very risky and rather nasty behavior. It's just very difficult for me to respect someone who has such little respect for themselves, I guess.

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hmm... are you sure about how you really feel? No offense intended, but I find it sort of ironic that you would spend so much time on a site that promotes exacty that which you find so "nasty"

Sluts fascinate me. I dunno if I'd be serious with one, but I certainly would f*ck one if I felt she was clean (disease-free). I admire their ability to deviate from social convention.

I personally don't "admire" sluts. I think they are fvcking disgusting c u m buckets to be honest.