On Interracial Dating and the Views of White Catholics

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I'm not sure how many people on here have dated or are currently dating interracially, but I thought this is an important topic worth bringing up. I'm sure most of you heard about the Michael Richards racist rant and are aware that in the past week or so, CNN has been doing a series of specials on racism in America to help heal the wounds and promote dialogue. I have enough experience, being in America now for over 10 years, to know that racism is still alive and a big problem in this country, especially when it comes to interracial dating. Most of all, interracial dating between black men and white women continues to attract much scorn and remains a heated topic of controversy. During my senior year as an undergraduate student, I made a move on a white woman at my university. She told me she had a boyfriend but claimed to be interested in keeping in touch, so she gave me her email. When I emailed her, I got a reply supposedly from her boyfriend saying:


"So apart from hitting on my girlfriend, she tells me that you are a N-----?"
Those hateful words pricked at me very sharply, but I chose not to reply to his email and give him what he wanted. I had a suspect in mind, a wimpy looking, skinny white dude who I used to see walking with that woman from time to time. Since that email, I never said a word to that woman ever again when I saw her.


Not much has changed since then. I'm tired of continually getting hateful stares from some white men when they see me walking with or sitting down on a train talking to a good-looking white woman. They seem to expect me to hook up with the women they don't want, the ones they consider to be obese and unattractive in different ways. It seems to me that for the most part, many white parents in this country (and I'm not saying all) would rather have their daughters date, mate with and marry any other ethnicity of men but black. Nothing seems to piss racists off more than the possibility that an attractive white woman may end up giving a guy like me her phone number.


And at my school, a private, Catholic University, most of the white female students are either extremely scared of black men, have negative impressions of them, or don't consider them their equals. Most just won't even look at you in the eye when you walk past them in hallways, although I don't walk around seeking their attention. It is primarily for that reason that I prefer to avoid making moves on white women at my university as much as possible. Someone told me that most White Catholics have racist impressions of blacks and tend to transfer them to their children. Is anyone on here familiar with this?

It's a sad, shameful and unfortunate reality of American life for the black man.
 

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Frank2500 said:
I'm not sure how many people on here have dated or are currently dating interracially, but I thought this is an important topic worth bringing up. I'm sure most of you heard about the Michael Richards racist rant and are aware that in the past week or so, CNN has been doing a series of specials on racism in America to help heal the wounds and promote dialogue. I have enough experience, being in America now for over 10 years, to know that racism is still alive and a big problem in this country, especially when it comes to interracial dating. Most of all, interracial dating between black men and white women continues to attract much scorn and remains a heated topic of controversy. During my senior year as an undergraduate student, I made a move on a white woman at my university. She told me she had a boyfriend but claimed to be interested in keeping in touch, so she gave me her email. When I emailed her, I got a reply supposedly from her boyfriend saying:


"So apart from hitting on my girlfriend, she tells me that you are a N-----?"
Those hateful words pricked at me very sharply, but I chose not to reply to his email and give him what he wanted. I had a suspect in mind, a wimpy looking, skinny white dude who I used to see walking with that woman from time to time. Since that email, I never said a word to that woman ever again when I saw her.


Not much has changed since then. I'm tired of continually getting hateful stares from some white men when they see me walking with or sitting down on a train talking to a good-looking white woman. They seem to expect me to hook up with the women they don't want, the ones they consider to be obese and unattractive in different ways. It seems to me that for the most part, many white parents in this country (and I'm not saying all) would rather have their daughters date, mate with and marry any other ethnicity of men but black. Nothing seems to piss racists off more than the possibility that an attractive white woman may end up giving a guy like me her phone number.


And at my school, a private, Catholic University, most of the white female students are either extremely scared of black men, have negative impressions of them, or don't consider them their equals. Most just won't even look at you in the eye when you walk past them in hallways, although I don't walk around seeking their attention. It is primarily for that reason that I prefer to avoid making moves on white women at my university as much as possible. Someone told me that most White Catholics have racist impressions of blacks and tend to transfer them to their children. Is anyone on here familiar with this?

It's a sad, shameful and unfortunate reality of American life for the black man.
I dont live in america but why do you let other people effect you so much?

There are more none racists then racists, have you ever questioned maybe you are drawn to the racists since they are prominent in your life, since it is such an issue for you?

There are loads of black guys on here (i am white) that do very well and dont even mention racism, i believe most have learnt to not let them effect them!

Why try to change the world?

There are tons and tons of wierd stuff in the world, racism is just one of them.

We could branch this out to religions, feminism, sexism the list can go on and on and on.

What you need to understand it only effects you if you let it.

Why not simply ignore the racist rants and mix with people that dont partake in this stuff.

If you surround yourself with racism, then it is going to be prominent in your life and vica versa. Now you can tell me you cant get away from it where you live, but from this i can see you take an active intrest in the politics surrounding it also. Why not take an active intrest in christians and muslims divide or feminism issues? Simply due to it not effecting YOU! as much as racism does.

But i believe you can limit the amount of this junk you allow in by simply avoiding it. Easier said then done maybe!

Yes there are racists and this wont change, what can change is you.

Why get so hung up about it, the people that matter dont get tied down with stupid limited ideals that limits growth! So why worry about people who are simply ignorant?

The topic does not belong here, but i aint no mod.

But if it is such an issue:

Either change the world, or avoid it by avoiding the types of people that are effecting your frame, so to say.

As for T.V most of its junk anyway.

The hateful stares are a concern also, why do you think the are hateful?

Ever considered these people are jealous of the black god walking down the street and are actually fear-ful of that?

I am a beliver most if not all racisms is bred from fear and ignorance! Something you cant change, many have tried.

As for inter-racial relationships, who cares really?
Oh yes the sad gits who cant get women so look for excuses to reasons why, this is simply another excuse for the sad few, but it can swing both (or three ways, or ten ways or 100 ways e.t.c) ways as we know.

As for the parents, what is this exaclty?
Why set your sights on simply Catholic Girls with racists ideals?
Is this healthy? Why waste any more time even thinking about it?
 

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It seems to me that for the most part, many white parents in this country (and I'm not saying all) would rather have their daughters date, mate with and marry any other ethnicity of men but black. Nothing seems to piss racists off more than the possibility that an attractive white woman may end up giving a guy like me her phone number.

I doubt that black American parents really want their daughter marrying a white guy, either.

One phenomenon at play here is that because it is considered slvtty for a white girl to date black guys, women who actually are slvts get a thrill from the social scorn of being with a black guy. It's a self-perpetuating circle in that the negative racist stereotype is often reinforced by slvtty women.
 
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This is common everywhere - and yes, blacks take the brunt of this taboo - I see a lot of interracial couples but never the hot white chick black dude combo unless he is an athlete and then that is ok because of his status!

Go to black / white mixed clubs - hors are looking for black penis there - easy pick-up! This taboo actually works in the favor a black dudes since the hot white women wants to taste the forbidden fruit before she marries!
 

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Frank2500 said:
She told me she had a boyfriend but claimed to be interested in keeping in touch, so she gave me her email. When I emailed her, I got a reply supposedly from her boyfriend saying:

"So apart from hitting on my girlfriend, she tells me that you are a N-----?"
Lol, sounds like a set-up to me. First the bf excuse...and then a supposed threat from him?

Yea right. If she really wanted to keep in touch with you, the last thing she would've done was tell her bf you hit on her and give him your email. LMAO.

I think it's obvious she wrote that herself to get rid of you. It's always easier to blame a "racist bf" or "racist parents," even if you have to fake them.

You'll learn real quick that White women have a high price in this country - that basically due to feminism and some other factors - most of them are all now overprivileged, spoiled, psycho byches. Tara Conner is a good, classic example of the modern All-American White girl today. Loves deceit, hypocrisy, drugs, alcohol and slvtting around in club bathrooms. Avoids honesty, personal accountability and stable relationships like the Plague.

BTW, beware of the club "mudsharks" with jungle fever - as they have generally had more black kawk than a Nigerian hooker. And seeing as how 42% of Blacks tested have herpes...as well as far higher rates of ALL STDs...that's some scary odds!

But until men here all join up in arms against feminism, you really shouldn't be whining about all its effects...one of the worst being vastly decreased leverage in relationships. Instead, BECOME PART OF THE SOLUTION.
 

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It's a sad, shameful and unfortunate reality of American life for the black man.
Stop with that selfpitty shít. Most of your thread is based on one big moan, gently sprinkled with some corner of the world BS observations.

If you really crave white pússy that much, get yourself to a big city, otherwise get yourself some dignity. It's depressing.
 

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I'm not sure how many people on here have dated or are currently dating interracially, but I thought this is an important topic worth bringing up. I'm sure most of you heard about the Michael Richards racist rant and are aware that in the past week or so, CNN has been doing a series of specials on racism in America to help heal the wounds and promote dialogue. I have enough experience, being in America now for over 10 years, to know that racism is still alive and a big problem in this country, especially when it comes to interracial dating. Most of all, interracial dating between black men and white women continues to attract much scorn and remains a heated topic of controversy. During my senior year as an undergraduate student, I made a move on a white woman at my university. She told me she had a boyfriend but claimed to be interested in keeping in touch, so she gave me her email. When I emailed her, I got a reply supposedly from her boyfriend saying:


"So apart from hitting on my girlfriend, she tells me that you are a N-----?"
Those hateful words pricked at me very sharply, but I chose not to reply to his email and give him what he wanted. I had a suspect in mind, a wimpy looking, skinny white dude who I used to see walking with that woman from time to time. Since that email, I never said a word to that woman ever again when I saw her.


Not much has changed since then. I'm tired of continually getting hateful stares from some white men when they see me walking with or sitting down on a train talking to a good-looking white woman. They seem to expect me to hook up with the women they don't want, the ones they consider to be obese and unattractive in different ways. It seems to me that for the most part, many white parents in this country (and I'm not saying all) would rather have their daughters date, mate with and marry any other ethnicity of men but black. Nothing seems to piss racists off more than the possibility that an attractive white woman may end up giving a guy like me her phone number.


And at my school, a private, Catholic University, most of the white female students are either extremely scared of black men, have negative impressions of them, or don't consider them their equals. Most just won't even look at you in the eye when you walk past them in hallways, although I don't walk around seeking their attention. It is primarily for that reason that I prefer to avoid making moves on white women at my university as much as possible. Someone told me that most White Catholics have racist impressions of blacks and tend to transfer them to their children. Is anyone on here familiar with this?

It's a sad, shameful and unfortunate reality of American life for the black man.
First of all let me say that you presented your argument in a very pristine and eloquent manner that was easy to read and quite informative...

Secondly, I may be younger than you (22) but I've learned alot about these things. I, probably like you, grew up in an all-white area and had white gf's and it never was a problem. I am from an upper class family and was percieved by others as 'white, with a tan'. I was smarter than most of my white peers and graduated top of my class... I was white to them and hence I was ALLOWED to date their women...

Moving away from my home (with the same preference for white women) to an area where interracial dating was looked down upon, my preferences in white women were quickly derailed as the men made it clear to me that they would have NONE of it (both black and white community). I've been threatned by both races: black because they were jealous a pretty white girl would talk to me and not them, and white because they were jealous a pretty white girl would talk to what they saw as some 'black guy'...

I did not learn my lesson and ended up sleeping with some white girls that turned and lied on me an got in trouble for harrasment and alot of other crap... Thankfully I avoided any major trouble but learned the lesson to let sleeping dogs lie... stopped pushing the envelope...

Anyway the point is now-a-dayz I don not converse with white women at all and have thankfully lost my preference for them. I have zero attraction to even the most beautiful of them because I know what it costs to get them, ALOT of trouble. :nono:

I do want to add one thing though. Are you dark or light skinned black ?? I am VERY light-skinned and it is easy for women and men to mistake me for a mixed race person or someone of exotic origin (Thai mix, or Phillepeno and Puerto Rican). I still attract white women because of my light complexion and most probably think I'm mixed, so i'm not looked upon as a "black guy". Even at work, I am the face they want to put out to the world since i'm not too dark to scare people, but still a minority... I think being a dark skinned black person is VERY hard...


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Oh dear. Here comes the shít....
I'm looking for cover... :nervous:

Although this type of thread has been created several times in the forum, I will say that Frank2500's post was well written without the typical frustrations that reeks of bitterness and over-generalizations (even though it did specifically mention white Catholics ;) ).
 

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If you care to read through these 2 pages, you will see that I was a 38 yo guy fukkin around with a 20 yo coworker. A lot of flirting, no action - she left the company 3 months ago and I have not talked to her. This girl, when in HS, was on the cheer squad and my ex wife was her coach.

So tonight, my ex calls to say she ran into this 20 yo psycho at the store. After some small talk, psycho asks "What's up with your ex?" My ex says what do you mean, and little psycho goes off on how I was sexually harrassing her at work and threw in made-up details that I am embarrassed to divulge to even complete strangers like yourselves. Totally 110% not what happened. My ex thinks it's funny and gave me a hard time, saying that's what I get for playing around with teenagers, she coulda told me that girl was crazy, etc.

So weird. Everything between me and this 20 yo happened over less than a 4 week period and during that time NOTHING HAPPENED!

This girl is crazy and loves the drama - a lethal combination. If she is still friends with and talks to her former coworkers who are still at the company I work for, God knows what crap she tells them. What the fvck ever, babe.
I'll bet $50 this girl is White? :crackup:

Sounds like Tara Conner's phony apology where she turned the faucet on but denied all allegations of her actual screw-ups. Well, you can't really mean you're sorry if you won't admit to what you're sorry for...

But this is the White girl M.O. - break every rule in the book but lie, deny and sympathy-wh0re when you get busted...only so you can keep doing it again...
 

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Frank2500 said:
They seem to expect me to hook up with the women they don't want, the ones they consider to be obese and unattractive in different ways.
I am not going to sugar-coat for fear of coming accross as racist because I aren't, so here look:

They expect you to hook up with a girl of your own ethnicity.

It seems to me that for the most part, many white parents in this country (and I'm not saying all) would rather have their daughters date, mate with and marry any other ethnicity of men but black.
Correct, and I would prefer it when I have children that my daughter hooks up with a white man, because that's my race. That is who I am.

And at my school, a private, Catholic University, most of the white female students are either extremely scared of black men, have negative impressions of them, or don't consider them their equals. Most just won't even look at you in the eye when you walk past them in hallways
Reality check - most white girls don't find black men attractive.

Your average white girl wants nothing to do with a black guy.
Your average white man wants nothing to do with black women.

Problems arise when:

Black men persue white women
White women persue black men

You have a lot of accepting to do. You may like attractive white girls, but it's highly unlikely they find you attractive. Do not label them racists for this.

It's a sad, shameful and unfortunate reality of American life for the black man.
No, it's really not.

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Thankfully I live in an area where it is not uncommon to find interracial relationships....thankfully. :up: Though I will say, "White" Women normally come out on the bottom of the scale for me unless they are not American...
 

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The town I grew up in was around 35% black, a little less than 3 times the national average, and I never saw or met a black chick that would go out with white guys. I even banged one but she said if she brought me home her brother's would kill me.

This was in the south though, so that type of sentiment was equal on both sides.

I'll have to disagree with muscley though, I've seen some very hot black girls, and not even the real light ones that have white features, but the real dark skinned ones, woo.
 

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Subject beaten to death. This thread won't last long.
 

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Muscly Jerk, you're a ****ing **** head. :kick: Period. Perhaps "your" average white girl or guy wants nothing to do with a black girl or guy, but that's not the way things are in the real world. I'm from Louisiana, one of the most racist places I've ever experienced in this country, and I still see non-slutty white girls hooking up with non-athlete black guys and the same for white guys and black girls.
For the original poster, I'm black and I get girls of ALL races. Why? I avoid the stereotype like the plague. Baggy clothing is not my style, so I tend to dress more along the lines of what I see in the Polo or Calvin Klein ads. I listen to everything, from TI, Tupac and Kanye West to Soundgarden (pre-Audioslave), Nirvana and the Pixies. I don't like menthol cigarettes and I do not own a doo-rag. Do NOT be fake and try to "act white", but definitely try your hardest to avoid the box that people like this ******* :rolleyes: will try to put you in. Peace.
 

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1) Why is everyone congragulating the OP on writing a coherent post?? Is it really that unfathomable that a black guy can read and write? Let's get over the BS it's damn near 2007.

2) Muscly-your honest opinion is greatly appreciated. Your erroneous 'facts' about the average white girl is not.

3) To the OP, stop crying and man up. Seriously, do you think anyone is going to say anything supportive? What do expect to come of this post?
 

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Yall knew I had to jump in on this one!!!!!

But I'll refrain from being as silly as the original poster.

Bluntly or not, mucleyjerk is right. Even the OP states that most white women aren't attracted to the AVERAGE black man.

I always find it funny that in these threads black people start screaming about stereotypes white people place on them, while completely ignoring the fact that they do the same.

Bottom line: Sounds like a bunch of black guys whining because their game isn't tight enough. Quit blaming your color as the reason you can't pick up certain chicks.
 

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Everyone deals with racism. It is wishful thinking to assume if one were a different race it would go away. I don't mean to minimize the fact that african-american men undergo a lot of racism, because I know that is true.

When I am seen with black women I get stares from both white women and black men. OTOH, a lot of white women and black men are friendly too. One day I was at lunch with a hot black chick and the white waitress never served us, we actually had to complain to the manager because we were left sitting for over 30 minutes with no service and the place was not busy at all! The waitress continued to be rude, and on the way out a couple of black male employees stared at us and did everything they could to make us feel uncomfortable. The good news is she was so upset she did not want to go back to the training and we had sex. LOL. Ironically, I probably wouldn't have been able to sleep with her if they would've just been polite to us.

Nonetheless, I think focusing on this stuff only makes it worse. The post should probably be deleted. On this forum we should (IMO) focus on getting rid of negative emotions, not dwelling on them. The best way to combat racism is to rise above it and not respond to it. If I saw Frank out gaming white chix, I would try to help him out if I could, and I'd expect him to do the same for me if he saw me gaming black chix.

Frank, if you're reading this, just keep rising above the racism bro. Keep working on your game, and don't let social pressure drive you away from white females. Ignore the negative emotions, the people who are trying to stop you are afraid of your success. Overcoming this barrier will make you stronger! remember that a lot of white women are raised as princesses, so white guys get a lot of sh1t from them too unless they perceive the guys are really high value (hence, the term b1tch shield came into use).
 

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