Changing views on strippers

I was recently at one of the strip clubs pretty late night here in Las Vegas and of course I had and encounter which prompted me to create this thread. My friends and I were of course drunk before going to the strip club Seamless near the orleans. We had taken several shots pregaming in the car before hitting the Foundation Room on lounge night in the Mandalay Bay. This was ofcourse followed by more shots inside the foundation room with few mixed drinks to sip on while socializing with the masses.

So one of our friends says we should hit up the club and since I had never been there I agreed to go. We arrive and my friend tips one of the bouncers likr 40 bucks to get us a table. We sit, the strippers do there naked thing where they try to propostion everyone for dances. We buy some more shots and drinks (we're pretty wasted) but we have a strict policy for not paying for strippers and we stick to it. We talk to some of the non stripper girls there and they dance for us anyway but with their clothes on. Anyway one stripper sits on my lap and starts to dance. I tell her I'm not giving her anymone right off the bat and she says that's okay and starts to dance on me any way. I'm very un interested because I view them as a different class of woman, I have an even stricter policy on not dating strippers concidering the disasters I've had doing such in the past. So while she's dancing on me I accidentally burn the stripper with my cigarette and she gets a little miffed. I tell her I pretty much don't care and tell her she can get off me any time she wants...but she didn't instead she re lights my cigarett and says the fact she's dancing on me and I dont' really care really turns her on.

So she's telling me she wants to be my girlfriend and stuff, dancing on me for like 7 or 8 songs, takes her top off, is putting her crotch on my face, kissing me, i mean going nuts. Since I'm kind of drunk it's hard for me to keep that indifferent but I do the best I can. Anyway after a while she snaps her thong which is the international sign for "stripper want money now" and I tell her i dont' have any. So she goes back to dancing on me again. After more dancing she tells me she's going to get off and I can either give her 400 bones for a private dance in the back or 100 dollars for a dance in a secluded corner. She also tells me the stripper myth about how she's in school and hasn't made any money tonight. At this point I decide to give her 20 bucks and send her on her way. She smiles and says it's okay, she'll see me the NEXT time I come back and maybe we can exchange numbers, which I decline because I don't date strippers

Anyway this is the sum of my encounter. I have a new respect for strippers who are good at their trade. That stripper spend a lot of time on me and really she got me to violate my rule but only after she worked pretty hard for it. I'm thinking her goal for the whole thing was to either get a big pay off from me in a few hundred dollar lap dance after spending so much time on me, get me to purchase a more expencive dance after by giving me a decent sampler, or get a repeat customer by giving me good service thus getting me to come back and spend addtinal money. So in essance the respect for them is for their buisness like attitude towards getting clients money. No matter what they tell you there's a 95% chance it's just another tactic to get into your wallet. Though it's important to note that the respect for the buisness sense of a stripper is equivilent to that of a well managed prostitute or drug dealer who's good at their respective trade.

Summing it up I'm changing my view on dating strippers as well. When ever anyone has asked about dating a stripper I've always said don't do it, it's not worth it. I'm now changing that to weigh your options before you jump in. First realize the obvious that your potential g/f will be dancing naked for other men at best! At worst...well the skys the limit, stripping is a front and she's really a full fledged prostitue and who knows what she'll bring home to you. It is poissible however that she's just a really good stripper and knows how to manage her game well so she's got ton of money some of which you might get (i know a few students driving BMW's in college that daddy didn't pay for), being taken on shopping trips and not paying for dinner might not be all that bad. Again on the negative side again is it's pretty much a craps shoot whether or not she's crazy (been abused or what ever leaving her mentally derranged) and you really don't want to deal with that...trust me i mean REALLY want to avoid the crazy strippers. So weigh the situation well first before making a commitment.

Dated two strippers last year. There was drama.

for some reason i find that really anoying. Once they realize they gave you a boner, they get less entusiastic......but they'll do anything to get you in that room, and they'll do just enough, for you to spend another 20 and stay in there.

it's just a job

some of them realize that if they are gona do that job, they might as well do the best that they can.....

spider_007 said:

some of them realize that if they are gona do that job, they might as well do the best that they can.....

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True, but it's like a combination of pornstar meets hustler. I respect them a little more for their hustler aspect as being a porn star requires little talent other then some basic marketability. Keep in mind I respect drug dealers in a similar way as in I don't really appreciate what they're doing but how they're doing it. There are ofcourse better more respectable ways they could go about making money with the same attitude that they have but that's not the route they choose.

why do you even have a view on strippers? theyre girls you go to see dance for money....... that pretty much sums it up.

for some reason i find that really anoying. Once they realize they gave you a boner, they get less entusiastic......but they'll do anything to get you in that room, and they'll do just enough, for you to spend another 20 and stay in there.

it's just a job

some of them realize that if they are gona do that job, they might as well do the best that they can.....

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Read some of Mystery's stuff. You are fvcking up because you label yourself as a "client" therefore "you= her paycheck" ... on the other hand if "you= new, fun, exciting, NOT a client" => She is attracted.

If i have to give Mystery Props on anything that is his stripper's material.

Oxide said:

Read some of Mystery's stuff. You are fvcking up because you label yourself as a "client" therefore "you= her paycheck" ... on the other hand if "you= new, fun, exciting, NOT a client" => She is attracted.

If i have to give Mystery Props on anything that is his stripper's material.

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I'm not sure that really applies here oxide. First of all I burned this girl with a cigarette and got her more agressive. If that's her Idea of a good time then I really wouldn't be that interested anyway. Also she propositioned me for a 100-400 dollar private or semi private dance. None of that comes across to me as high IL or attraction. I gotta stick with client basis for this one because money seemed to be the root of her seduction/determination. Sure I could have given her the money to see what would of happened but I work pretty hard for my money not to get a new pair of tennis shoes or at least a meal out of that much currency.

guys, strippers are women first.

with that said, I have dated 3, was damn near engaged to one.

I really, really don't get the big stripper myth.. they are women, who happen to be attractive, who dance topless for other men..l sometimes other women as well


If your GF was a swimsuit model, it wouldn't be any different. She isn't ****ing the guys.. she isn't even attracted to the guys.

I have had just as much drama out of my other relationships as I did with the dancers.

the hardest part is, getting used to the schedule.

Now, there are some really ****ed up girls that dance, that's a given.

But there are really ****ed up girls in every line of work, you just can't see their boobies.'

the craziest b itch I ever met worked at a cingular call center.

also, any guy who goes to a strip club with the intent not to spend money needs to be slapped.. that's disrepecting their business.. if you don't want to tip, don't go. You are enjoying free tits and ass, for free. at least tip the rail.

I am not a big lap dance guy, but the few times I do go to the Strip club, I always make sure to leave decent stage tips if I like what I see.. no different then If I go to a resturant and get food i like

I dunno BB, I think there's a big difference between strippers and suimsuit models but that's a whole nother discussion. I'll just note a few observations I've had in my spotted past with strippers and the nature.

First off tipping the girls is purely optional if you conduct yourself in a certian way. If you go a strip club and don't ask for lapdances, then you don't have to tip, if you're not sitting stage side, then you don't have to tip, or in the case of my example, if you pay 10 dollars entry fee 45 dollars to be seated then near 200 dollars on drinks (15% gratuity for the waitress) then you definatly don't need to tip the stage or the girls circling about.

Also the ambiance or a strip club acconts for more crazy women then a typical job. I use to provide "party favors" for the entire mind and night shift of a strip clubs out here (all of them, doormen, bouncers, dancers, waitresses and bartenders) and all of those strippers were total nutzo and i'm not just saying that from second hand knowledge, I knew those ladies pretty well. That should also be noted in my first point, If you can blow 200bucks on a ball then then give the hook up free lap dances on his way out, then you're not exactly strapped for cash, tiping optional. I stray from the point, whole staff of strippers 99% crazy, you definately don't find odds like that at your local cold stone. Part of them being crazy has to do with the line of work their in which accounts for the hight derangement factor.

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Would never date a stripper, but was friends with a girl who worked the pole. She had a lot of guilt about her job and showed signs of depression.

It's like going to a restaurant but not being able to eat the food.

I've only been in them when mates wanted to go in. No way I'd ever pay a girl to dance on me, for exactly the same reason I don't buy girls drinks. It's not that I think they're all slvts, I don't really think anything of them: they're working well for a nieche market that I'm not part of. Meh, pay must be good- I'd probably do it if I had the ass .

I'm not a big frequenter of the stip clubs, sales association aside, i can say I haven't gone there for pleasure more then 5 times in the last 4 years. I think I've sat state side once in those times and I tipped singles but didn't ask or get any lap dances (If I recall that night I was at Club Paradise where there was 2 for 1 drinks...and I was pretty wasted) because it was a long night. The other times I've gone, we got a table and a bottle and were no where near the stage. Mostly made friendly with the strippers making their rounds but didn't request lap dances or anything. The ones who were strapped for cash or looking to work moved on, but there were a few who were cool for what ever reason and just sat and spoke with me and my boys for a bit. To be honest the female patrons in strip clubs are really the ones we went after because they were drunk and the stripper put on shows with them for free, then we took those girls home after. The girl who was giving me my extended lap dance, I told to make out with a girl that my friend took home later.

I'm adding another view that talking to strippers with no intent is a good thing. If you can talk to a stripper, which as Back Breaker pointed out is still a woman, who is wearing next to nothing with no anxiety or fear then then talking to a regualar non working girl who is without a doubt fully clothed should be no large task in itself. I could be wrong and the notion that talking to a girl who you already know has an agenda, could make you bias might make it an easy task. However If you look at it as talking to a girl who you intend to use your DJ skills on in the face of adversity, then you're doing such in a situation that the girl who will have built in distractions based on the scenerio and setting. I dunno but still if you're in that position one way or another it might be worth your time in the end.

So last night I went to a club with my boys. We had two pretty cool girls with us and one of them happened to be a stripper. I took note of this when we got to the club to see if she would act any differently upon enterance. The friend who invited her (it was his cousin) said she could likely get us into the club no problem. That turned out to be false, but since myself and my other friend are legendary for getting into clubs without paying, we got the group in with after dropping some basic lines to the doorman. Inside the club however, I definately saw where having a stripper on your team can be and advantage.

My friend (the one who assisted in getting us in) and I instructed the one who brought his stripper cousin to get us some drinks. When he told her we wanted her to get us drinks she actually came over and asked us if we were really wanting her to pay for drinks. At first we were thinking she should but then we told her she should probably make it interesting and get us some free drinks from one of the VIP tables on the floor. We took a quick scan around the room and found a table of 5 guys with one girl and 2 bottles of some pricey vodka. We pointed it out the table two her and all of a sudden things were cool for her. She got this huge smile on her face, patted both of us on the chest and said "Good call, this should be easy." She was over at the table for less then 10 minutes before one of the guys looked over to where myself and the rest of the gang were, and waved us over. They poured us some stong drinks and around of shots and pretended like they were glad to have us there. The guys were okay, nobody I'd want to be friends with really but they had loads of cash to drop. My boy had the Idea to pull some girls off the dance floor for them to even up the numbers before we left their table to socialize on our own. One of the guys noticed us doing this, took us to the bar and bought us a pair of shots a piece and some whacked out long islands.

I'm sure any slut could have done similar feats for anyone, but man we lauched that stripper like a guided missile. Those guys didn't even see it coming! I'm still not sure what she said to them to booze us like that, and frankly I don't care. But I am sure that whatever tactics she used were derived from her work experience of stripper.

Strippers are individuals first: some are doing it to pay for school, others are pros who make a very good living that way; some are waste cases, and others are straightedge. The whole gamut. It's miles away from "one size fits all." Some of them would probably make great girlfriends, but not for fellows with much of a jealous streak. As for dating some of the others, to quote Brave Sir Robin from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "run away!"

One of the best ones I've seen (who typically rakes in about 5-10 dances at $20 a pop plus lots of stage tips in a typical 2 hour period) doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, much less use drugs. And she puts on one hell of a show, and dances to a lot of interesting songs, and is super-intelligent, great to talk and flirt with ... crazy as a fox...

I occasionally go to a strip club for lunch, dinner, or to chill a bit, and always have a great time, without spending a hell of a lot of money. A bit of playfulness and creative flirting and teasing goes a long way.

A stripper who only gets 5-20$ dollars a dance isn't making **** man. I don't know where this "Pheasantville" is but round these parts, many of the strippers have to pay for stage time. Ofcourse these strippers are freelance not residents (usually in town from cali). Private dances around here on a given weekend are $100 dollars minimum and there is no limit on the cap.

I am in agreement with you in that if you're a jelouse person you shouldn't even concider dating a stripper. Just knowing where she works would be enough to drive you insane, less what she's doing (or not doing as the case may be). Also, it's important to note that the higher class strippers don't smoke crack, they do coke. Crack is more of a street drug done by "crackheads" or "crackwh*res". If you've seen some one on crack, you'll know why high brow strippers and strip club owners don't really aprove of crack.

Maybe stripper experiences should be classified by city type and population, because local strip clubs in smaller towns are worlds apart from the former. You actually have meals in strip clubs? To quote the great Chris Rock "Titties and tater tot's don't mix!"

Some of my friends were in town last night and they wanted to go to a strip club. Actually it was their G/F's who were really pressing to go to a las vegas strip club. My room mate and I weren't too keen on the idea but we went anyway(we get in for free and it's his boy's bday). We showed up with two 8oz flask in our back pockets and ordered juice the whole night so we only dropped about 12 bucks a piece in there.

On to the meat of this post. While in the club we noticed over half the strippers there weren't hot at all. We tried to picture how they would look with clothes ON and debated on if we saw them in club, would we approach them or ask them to dance. Honestly with the exception of literally three, none of them met minimum standards. One of them was 38 (we asked her) and looked it. Yet some of the chumps in there were giving her c notes like they were singles. As I recall she bought us around of shots at one point while we hung out at the center bar. We actually really dug the bartender more then alot of the strippers in there. On our way home we wondered what the application must look like for a stripper at that club. We settled it being exactly one question "will you take your clothes off for money? Check yes or no" after that you're employeed. What we really figured was the hot ones don't need to work as much as the b squad we were seeing and were probably out partying or something on saturday night not having to work. Still it didn't make for a good show and we weren't that impressed with what they were offering and were very glad we got in for free.

What club was this?

Ive picked up a few strippers, never date one though! They have issues! All the ones Ive met have a screw loose upstairs!

One was a real good girl though, and then all of a sudden flipped out, became a stripper, and now she is still a nutcase!

Another one had some HUGE insecurity problems and thought stripping would solve them, shes a major sl*t!

Another ones little sister died in a carcrash, she flipped out and wanted to do all the bad **** she never done because she "only lives once".

Another tried to bite my fukcing ear off!

Another was a waitress, and basically LOVED and CRAVED attention, so she became a stripper!

Thats as far as my experience goes with them! All seemed nice girls, but ALL had some serious problems in their head!

Oh and one more I just thought of, was dumped by the guy she loved, and moved towns and became a stripper.

Of these girls, I banged 3 the first time I ever met them! Says something right there! If you want to fukc them (which I dont do either these days, because I think casual sex is overrated, and doesnt do anything for me) thats fair enough, but I would NOT date one, at least not from what I have known of such girls!

S1NN3R said:

What club was this?

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Seamless next to the Orleans.