After enough convincing (mainly from seeing first hand enough times how non-UG women are full of sh*t and can't be taken seriously) I've rid myself of my nice guy/romantic fantasies, and I look at women the same way I'd look at a man...actually less...at least a man tells you exactly where he stands, win, lose, or draw.

Inside, I'm not a nice person, unless you're a family member or a proven commodity (close friend that has stood the test of time and the like.) But on the outside, I still come off as a "nice guy." Part of that is my physical appearance...my face just looks youthful and not masculine (my body is athletic, I work out frequently, but you can't really tell unless I have my shirt off.)

I'm trying to find a balance when talking with women where I'm kind of the way Richard Gere is in the movies...kind of like "Wow he can see right through me and he knows he has me even before I know he does." I'm trying to come off as more self-assured around women, without being a prick, but just being a man.

I have no idea how to apply this. I'm sure women can sense already that I no longer have them on a pedestal just by the way I look at them (or don't look at them) but I still see occasional women that make fun of me for my appearance (I have a really nerdy looking face.)

I'm also looking to avoid feelings of attachment. No matter how much you know deep down how poisonous it is, when you're talking to a woman, and she likes you and wants you to sleep with her, it can make you feel really good. I'm looking to keep an even keel and just treat it like any other thing.

I fear that my inexperience with dealing with sex will turn me into one of those guys that mistakes sex for love.

for men it's attitude and status, or social status, for women it's looks

you need to get rid of your low value (loser/wussy/afc/choad/beta) male sub-communications