Be Overt with Your Intent and Relentless in Action

Stugots said:

I'd suggest next time you decide to indulge in your limp wristed fantasies you have your lower ribs removed so you can auto-fellatio yourself to your hearts content. :kick:

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Another Marilyn Manson, cool.

I prefer a feminazi bitter chicka suck my ****a though.:flowers: Sucking a sweet lollipop will ease your bitterness and tone down your hostility towards guys.

Hang on, hang on, hang on....

Girl: "By doing that I will only reinforce your control freakiness which I don’t want to … so the answer is No"

So, while you simply state your purpose, she defies your and (so it later transpires) her own desires, and YOU are the control freak....? right-o love.

This is certainly a note-worth example. Thanks for sharing.

Next girl:

Solid HB9; p/t model waitress for POOL, a bikini bar in Atlantic City, where I met her last week.

I took her out Friday night. It was a 45 min date. She had to work her 2nd "job" that night. Not much to say about the date, other than a few IOIs, bantering the whole 45 minutes. Girl came from Russia 10 years ago; no real formal education. Who cares, right?

I kissed her goodnight; little peck on the lips. And that was that.

Today I text her:

Guru: Guess who?

Girl: Hi

Guru: Do you want to hookup on Saturday?

Girl: What do you mean hookup?

Guru: Sex

Girl: I don't know what kind of girl you think I am?

Guru: A girl who doesn't like sex?

Girl: No, lol, you know what I mean

Guru: Saturday night, meet me at XYZ lounge at 9:30 p.m.

<Three hours later>

Girl: OK, but do you promise to behave yourself

Guru: No

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So that's that. She's in. No need to push the envelope here.

Yannick, I can confidently state that there is a commensurate relationship with how much you genuinely do not give a fvck and the amount/hotness of the girls you attain. And its self-perpetuating loop. When you give a fvck, you avert them, furthering your giving a fvck. Contrariwise, when you don't give a fvck, you get them, furthering your not giving a fvck.

Not giving a fvck is a state of mind. Some people think that a not-giving-a-fvck state is irresponsible, immature, even juvenile. Fvck them. I write these logs so I can revert back to them as I need to, to change state.

This is great stuff here. But I'm with a few other posters here when I say, you have to be in tip top shape to pull this shít off. You have to be in premium clothes, fly haircut, look above average, and carry yourself ultimately.

Not to discourage anyone, there's ways to improve your looks. But this type of game definetly isn't for everyone.

My impression is that guru is just playing around here, experimenting with different DJ techniques and behaviors, just out of curiosity to see what happens, and to see what her reaction will be. He said himself he wasn't even that interested in having sex with her. And, as has been stated, this girl was from a website largely associated with one night stands.

Do I think many women might respond to this sort of direct approach? Yes.
Is it the best strategy to take? Not so sure. Best case scenario here is that he has to wait until the second date to bang her. So did he really save any time, as opposed to taking a more subtle, traditional route (getting to know her while upping the escalation)? Who can say?

Did she come over on Thursday as planned?

Status

Thursday

Girl (11:02 a.m.): See you tonight?

Guru (2:27 p.m.): Sry, going to have to cancel

Girl (2:32 p.m.) Azzhole

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LOL. What's a Guru to do? You have reached the epitome of DJism when you can turn down sex from hot women. Gentlemen, try it. As juvenile as this may sound, it feels damn good!

I want to discuss the significance of being overt in your intent for a minute:

Tomorrow night, I'm seeing an HB9 bikini model for a second date. This girl is hot, even under Guru standards. Here are the details of the first date. Our first date was bla; nothing over the top. However, since my introduction of sex in asking for the second date, she has been sexting me throughout the week. Herein is the importance of overtly stating your intent.

In my 30s, my game was different: I used to play the feigned disinterest card. Now, I will tell a girl within 15 minutes, "You--are--hot."

The key is in the delivery. You don't say, "OMG, you are so hot!" in an obsequious display of betaness.

You say in a slow, collected manner with conviction while looking her in the eyes, "You ... are ... hot." This will completely open her up to you sexually. And the hotter the girl (even though they are overly indulged in the most ass-kissing from the beta-kingdom), the greater your overt intent will further your interests. Try it.

Tomorrow night, I will slam this model. Sunday, I have two new first dates, a double-header. Will keep you updated within this thread.

I did that with "I want to have sex with you" line and it worked.

But this girl was always hot for me not someone I just met. Anyway goes to show it doesnt matter what you say, nor how you say it, its pure luck, but like the luck in the casino, it can be manipulated a little.

SmooveMooves said:

This is great stuff here. But I'm with a few other posters here when I say, you have to be in tip top shape to pull this shít off. You have to be in premium clothes, fly haircut, look above average, and carry yourself ultimately.

Not to discourage anyone, there's ways to improve your looks. But this type of game definetly isn't for everyone.

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Yeah, it's good looking guy game but the problem is that most guys don't maxmise themselves. They complain about not getting women but don't put in the effort so they end up in this perpetual confusion of knowing they could be worth more but not wanting to really put themselves out there through fear of rejection. I think that's what gets guys the most, knowing they've tried their hardest and it's still not good enough. Thankfully, I'm past that point, with any girl you just have to put yourself out there, lay out on the table. Guys want to be picky and expect to have all the püssy on their lap just from thinking they're the prize from day one. Doesn't work like that, you have to put in the work then once you get out the other side you can start being selective.

Guys can go from this to this in a relatively short space of time. The two images just show that a guy can go form like 5 to much higher just by getting a decent hair cut and dropping some body fat(no homo). Women can't really make these jumps because they've been maximising their looks since they were 14, so bar from going under the knife they're set in their ways until they hit the wall then its game over. Plus men have other factors to work off like status and money. I'd much rather be a guy rather be a guy.

Insane night! I banged two new girls. Talk about transcendental: Wait till you hear this story ...

guru1000 said:

Thursday



LOL. What's a Guru to do? You have reached the epitome of DJism when you can turn down sex from hot women. Gentlemen, try it. As juvenile as this may sound, it feels damn good!

I want to discuss the significance of being overt in your intent for a minute:

Tomorrow night, I'm seeing an HB9 bikini model for a second date. This girl is hot, even under Guru standards. Here are the details of the first date. Our first date was bla; nothing over the top. However, since my introduction of sex in asking for the second date, she has been sexting me throughout the week. Herein is the importance of overtly stating your intent.

In my 30s, my game was different: I used to play the feigned disinterest card. Now, I will tell a girl within 15 minutes, "You--are--hot."

The key is in the delivery. You don't say, "OMG, you are so hot!" in an obsequious display of betaness.

You say in a slow, collected manner with conviction while looking her in the eyes, "You ... are ... hot." This will completely open her up to you sexually. And the hotter the girl (even though they are overly indulged in the most ass-kissing from the beta-kingdom), the greater your overt intent will further your interests. Try it.

Tomorrow night, I will slam this model. Sunday, I have two new first dates, a double-header. Will keep you updated within this thread.

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Can you use you are hot even if you haven't got the girls digits yet , or been out with her ?

And here comes the first contender for Saturday night: HB9 bikini model. It’s our second date and we meet at a local lounge in Guru territory. I know this contender has to be at work in 2.5 hours, so I must game in overdrive if I want to fvck her. The farthest I had escalated with her on the first date was a mere peck on the lips, so my follow-through must be impeccable under such a time constraint.

I arrive early. She strolls in 15 min later. She is super-hot; a solid 9 under Guru standards. She approaches, I give her a huge hug and hold it for a few seconds.

We sit down. I order her a glass of white wine and one shot. The alcohol must work quickly. Drinking and bantering ensues for the next 30 minutes. Her eyes begin to pop (open up), her exaggerated laughs and her touching my arm begin to accelerate. She is primed. Or at least as primed as I think I could get her. Herein is the window of opportunity that any DJ must capitalize on while trying to escalate hard and fast. This is it. I am not receiving over-the-top green-light IOIs. But maybe, just maybe, I have just enough. Can I close her with these lackluster IOIs under such a time constraint? I think back to SoSuave, to all my fellow DJs out in the social trenches reading this. To all the DJs that when in doubt in their gaming futures, having read this, will make bold moves and act on their wills. To all the DJs who second-guess their dates’ interest level and need that extra push to accelerate hardcore, bold, and ferociously notwithstanding their insecurities, fears, or doubts. These are the thoughts that enter the mind of a Guru ...

From seemingly out of nowhere, I get up, pay the bill, extend my hand for her to get up, and say let’s go.

Girl: “Where are we going?”

Guru: “My house.”

Girl: “I’m not going to your house.”

Guru: “Well, surely, you won’t disappoint a man who thinks you are beautiful.“

Girl: “I’m sorry, but I just don’t know you well enough yet.”

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And so the Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) is firmly in place.

Guru: “I have a confession to make.”

Girl: “What is that?”

Guru: <Stated slowly while gazing her in the eyes> “Well … you see … the truth is” <Long pause> “I couldn’t stop thinking about you all week. You have been on my mind constantly. I know you are a girl I can see myself with long-term and marry. You are not only beautiful, but you have all the great compatible qualities I seek in a woman. You are the one.”

Girl: “What a Casanova you are!”, she clamors with a smile.

Her face opens.

Guru: “I like you. You are an awesome girl and I want nothing more than to show you where I live. I think you will love the city views. Come.”

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I extend my hand again. She follows.

You treat ASD with love. Show the girl that you value her; that you seek an LTR with her; that she is not just another another broad you are fvcking; that she is special--and that ASD will evaporate instantaneously. Remember, she wants to fvck just as much as you do. She just needs to feel safe in her opening to you, and to KNOW that you will be there after the fact for continued relations, without your deprecating her sexual brevity with you.

We enter my duplex. I take her to the balcony and point toward the city where Wall Street is. I tell her a story of how a close friend of mind back in 1998 committed suicide, jumping 32 floors from his office plunging to his death, because of a lost love, who would not return to him. I explain that power of love is the greatest motivator of human behavior. I explain that without the will to find love and secure love, life is meaningless.

She is now teary-eyed. :woo: I go in for the kiss. We kiss passionately for five minutes. I take her back inside onto the sofa and reach for her pvzzy. She pushes my hand away. OK, this one needs a bit more work.

I continue kissing her passionately. Wait a few minutes, and slowly progress on the outskirts of her clvt, but not touching. I tap it softly, once. Twice. I touch it softly, once. Twice. Soon, I’m fingering her, as she moans so loudly that I feel my walls shake. I put her hand onto and introduce her to Stanley, my little friend on steroids. One leads to another ... 15 minutes later, the dirty deed is done. :cheer:

I drive her back to her car, and kiss her goodnight.

But wait, is that it? That would be too easy, right? I just had my appetizer, but where is the main course? More to follow with a girl I meet on the street later that night, 4:00 in the morning …

yannick43 said:

I guess this is where i am at right now, i talk to a lot of them ...

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This is BOSS. Watch how your closing percentages increase commensurate with your weight loss.

Thechamp said:

Can you use you are hot even if you haven't got the girls digits yet , or been out with her ?

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Absolutely. It's the shock factor. The greater the shock, the greater the turnover.

Pay attention to your intent. Do you say it out of neediness and desperation--or--from a frame of abundance.

You---are--hot (and I have one thousand like you)

--or--

You--are--hot (and I need you to reciprocate)

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what you say. It's the nature of your intent that regulates your success rate.

All my life, I've jumped from one exclusive relation to another; never allowing my full DJ capabilities to develop. In the last two years, although I have had dozens of plates and over 50+ lays, this is the longest period of time I have stayed away from exclusivity. And I will not stop until I reach the apex of DJdom, which is to seduce ANY girl, at ANY time, at will.

Some say that its not possible to seduce EVERY girl, as each has disparate types. I used to share this philosophy, but with experience, my thoughts have changed.

Any DJ despite his looks could technically (meaning under the right circumstance) secure any girl--at least for the short-term. For example, if a girl has daddy issues, and you have Daddy game (appearing as a father figure), she will be drawn to you. If a girl is accustomed only to guys fawning over her, and you are indifferent, she will be drawn to you. If a girl has been played by other Casanovas who never took her seriously, and you tell her you love her because she is special, she will be drawn to you.

The key is to understand your audience. The conundrum with common PUA tactics is that it assumes that one game fits all. This is a fallacy. A real Casanova understands this concept of audience: Ask questions about her past; read facial expressions and body language; decipher what makes that specific girl tick; decipher what she is missing; and give it to her.

Notice with the first girl I banged Sat night, I fed her the "love and marry" game. I sensed based on her stories and attitude that despite her looks, she had been played hard and was seeking a man to love her and care for her for who she is. And that is exactly what I fed her.

Remember, analyze your audience assiduously. More to follow later ...

oh this sh1t is getting me excited

first post ive read on SS thats got me this excited in a long time

Guru i am literally sucking confidence up out of this thread for myself as we speak

the best part for me is i KNOW i cant attain the same level of nochalonce that you are currently portraying in your encounters with women

i just sometimes have a bit of trouble communicating it or get so caught up in my own narcassistic tendancys i completely forget about the girl all together

its refreshing to see how easily you communicate with women , i can build mountains in my game from this and for that i will be eternally greatfull

theres a post where you mention you simply directly display your intention to a woman not in a fag way but in a confident way

"by simply looking her in the eyes and tell her you-are-hot......you immeditaley allow her to see you as a sexual energy"

this is what im gonna use to coax more sexually inexperienced chicks out of theyre shells , something ive massively struggled with this last year

almost backing off to a point as im afraid too much indriect sexual intent will scare her off which it would

but with a direct sexual intent appraoch resitance is going to be futile

guru1000 said:

All my life, I've jumped from one exclusive relation to another; never allowing my full DJ capabilities to develop. In the last two years, although I have had dozens of plates and over 50+ lays, this is the longest period of time I have stayed away from exclusivity. And I will not stop until I reach the apex of DJdom, which is to seduce ANY girl, at ANY time, at will

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This makes some sense. Reading your stories, I was getting the strongest impression that you weren't really doing this because you wanted to, but were rather more interested in just proving that you could. Like telling the girl you wanted to fvck her when you really didn't.

I'm sure that what you're doing is something most guys here would aspire to, but I really have no interest in telling a girl I love her just to get laid. Although I realize you could argue that you were just giving her the excuse she was looking for in order to do what she wanted to anyway.

The "You are hot" bit, compliments have always been a controversial point here. Corey Wayne says that when you say something like that to a girl, it sets you apart, because most guys don't have the guts to say it. Others say that beautiful women hear this stuff ALL the time, so it really has little impact. I never have decided quite where I stand on this.

guru1000 said:

Quite honestly now, I care not to fvck her. I just wanted her to submit to me. Game over.

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^^^ I'm very similar in this way. Submission from a woman, emotional or physical,mis the nuts to me. And in my exp, women crave that.

I have had feedback from women that I have gamed in the same manner as OP and as put out, or pissed off/shocked as they may have been,they've never forgotten the approach.

As in standard game, some submit, some don't. But they remember the guy that did that to them.

zekko said:

The "You are hot" bit, compliments have always been a controversial point here. Corey Wayne says that when you say something like that to a girl, it sets you apart, because most guys don't have the guts to say it. Others say that beautiful women hear this stuff ALL the time, so it really has little impact. I never have decided quite where I stand on this.

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you are missing the key to it all zekko my freind

beautifull women may very well hear that they are beautifull (fvcking hate that word) but she hasnt heard it from YOU

theres a big difference between turning to your date at the bar and saying "you know what you are beautfull"

this will turn her off

but turning to her grabbing her arm , looking in her eyes and whispering "you-are-hot-as-fvck" , should providing you have enough about you........ give her a light panty soaking

Meeting up with a girl tomorrow who I already know is an extremely sexual woman based on conversations...she asked to move time back a half hour and I said "Yeah that's cool as long as you wear something extra sexy for me" and she was like "I can definitely do that...I got lots of sexy clothes "

I'm going to attempt the GURU method of just asking her if she is DTF within the first half hour after I prime her a little bit. I'll post my results tomorrow or Wednesday...