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Soolie is totally stuck on stupid.
The “Men’s Rights Movement” should be called the “Beta Power Movement”
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For starters, I support the positive side of feminism that says that oppressing a woman's rights to work, be educated, and vote is not an efficient way to operate a country. I believe that women should have ALL the rights to pursue their Pursuit of Happiness and not have laws that ban them from doing so based on their gender. This OPPRESSION is what started the feminist movement.
The issue, though, is that you don't take a wrong and make another wrong. In trying to eliminate oppression you end up oppressing other people AFTER you have been relieved of said oppression. That is wrong and unjust, just as the original oppression was.
If feminists would have STOPPED at just fighting for the right to vote, to work, be educated and pursue their own pursuit of happiness, we wouldn't need a damn Men's Rights Movement and there wouldn't be a damn MGTOW.
The issue, however, is that feminists didn't stop. Once they removed the oppression and were GIVEN power (notice I said given because they didn't fight any wars to obtain it, men GAVE them power out of guilt) then they took that power and turned it on Men to now start oppressing them through:
- Dominating media causing a change in culture and societial norms. Those changes in norms promoted that in order for men to have the "opportunity" to be with a woman, he had to CATER to a woman's needs and desires in order to "please" her. This catering could be done in the "beta way" such as doing it through offering financial provision and protection (marriage, sugar daddy, white knight, etc). Or the catering could be done in the "alpha way" such as sexing her down right, making her laugh, etc. BOTH of which puts the man in the "audition" role and the woman in the role of the "producer" selecting whom is deemed "worthy" to step on her stageshow and be her PERFORMANCE CLOWN this week.
- Manipulating the Court Systems to rape a man in divorce and rape him in child support.
- Manipulating the Court Systems to put a man in jail for false DV and false rape charges, with no backlash from society or the Court System if they are found out to be lying.
The ONLY reason women have power is because it was given to them out of guilt. The issue though, is that their power has been implemented so much into our political, education, workforce, and other systems that it's nearly impossible to FIGHT this. Either you will be live your life as a woman's PERFORMANCE clown (in a beta or alpha way) or you will live your life solo as an MGTOW....with the shame and pressure of society forever on you as you continue to "go your own way" until retirement and eventually to death.
Hilarious!Danger said:
You are more delusional than I thought if you think you won the boundary debate.
Everybody that read it saw that you lost it except the same 4 people who agree with you.
You couldn't even defend your own claims of the boundary. I refuted every false claim you made. Everybody saw that even the moderator. Boundaries are useless.
Nice projection by the way. That's the same thing a feminist does projecting their weaknesses, failures, and mistakes onto others. You do that a lot.
If boundaries filter out women so great then you won't have to fear a misandric family court system. Put a ring on her finger then.Danger said:
More lies and false claims coming from you again.Danger said:
My girl is committed to me.
She cut other men out of her life when she wanted to be exclusive.
That is real commitment right there.
That is what loving high quality women do unlike yours who had to be prodded by you to give up her men until you decided to commit to her.
See the difference?
I didn't need to set a fearful boundary like you had to.
I told you this already several times now. Why can't you remember that?
Youi are right about that boundaries are useless.
You should grow some balls and not hide behind a fearful boundary being terrified of other men that your woman may run to.Danger said:
Grow some balls and put a ring on her finger to prove your boundary theory is valid.
My price has already been set a long time ago.
My High Value made her cut out other men on her own. Your woman never did that for you.
You have low value. That is why you need a boundary telling her to give up other men when she doesn't want to.
I'm laughing at your ignorance.Danger said:
A verbal boundary does nothing for you except in your own delusional mind.
I'd say a woman who has decided on her own what she wants and what I want her to do is being accountable.
I have standards. I didn't commit to a hor who still wanted other men around trying to impose a boundary on her.
Gain some value so someday you can do the same.
Quit living in fear. Put a ring on her finger.
You verbalized out of fear cause you were scared of her other men. That's insecurity. Me I don't care. I will replace her if I need to.Danger said:
It's not being terrified when she already did what I wanted her to do. Are you crazy?
I already have confidence in my high value. That's why my woman chose me. That's why other women want me. My woman knows that too.
High value men don't need to set a price. Women already know my price. That's why they want me.
Low value betas need to set an inflated price on themselves cause of insecurity. They hold no value. They accept her request of exclusitivity trying to put boundaries out of fear cause they have no other options.
Don't hide behind your boundary.
Get rid of your fear.
Put your boundary to the test.
If you have the balls marry her.
Put a ring on her finger and marry her tomorrow.
What are you afraid of if you have such high value?
High value men aren't afraid of women cheating unlike you.
If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
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Since Zarky likes to pick and pull things out of context to serve his (her?) narrative, it's probably best everyone read the original post in its entirety:
http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/29/a-new-hope/
RE: The MRM;
Game Works:
http://therationalmale.com/2014/10/09/game-works/
Doing Something
The fundamental flaw in the MRM is that it was founded on the express purpose of promoting the same “true” egalitarian equalism feminism idealizes. Once again, I am a complementarian, any notion that a balanced equalism can exist between the sexes – evolved physically and psychologically to be essential complements to one another – is inherently flawed.
I hold Dr. Warren Farrell in the highest esteem, if it weren’t for Why Men Are The Way They Are you wouldn’t be reading this blog. However, where I strongly disagree with him is in his preconception that an egalitarian balance of equal relations between men and women as an idealized state can ever be a possibility.
1st and 2nd wave feminism used to hold exactly this same notion as a tenet of its ideology. Today we can see that the idea of egalitarian equalism is counter to the natural complementarity between the sexes.
The higher ambitions of men will be more actionable and realizable when those men understand that their dominant role is what’s expected of them by society and women instead of an endless pandering to an unrealizable gender parity.
The moment men, through sheer effort and determination, finally achieve some precarious balance of equality between themselves and women, that’s when women will complain those men aren’t “Men” anymore.
http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/29/a-new-hope/
RE: The MRM;
Game Works:
http://therationalmale.com/2014/10/09/game-works/
Doing Something
Feminism is feminine-primacy masked as equality. The MRM (now more palatably renamed MHRM to ‘humanize’ it) wants that same dream of equality by redressing the glaring inequalities towards men that feminism has relentlessly pressed upon men in the name of that same equality.
The fundamental flaw in the MRM is that it was founded on the express purpose of promoting the same “true” egalitarian equalism feminism idealizes. Once again, I am a complementarian, any notion that a balanced equalism can exist between the sexes – evolved physically and psychologically to be essential complements to one another – is inherently flawed.
I hold Dr. Warren Farrell in the highest esteem, if it weren’t for Why Men Are The Way They Are you wouldn’t be reading this blog. However, where I strongly disagree with him is in his preconception that an egalitarian balance of equal relations between men and women as an idealized state can ever be a possibility.
1st and 2nd wave feminism used to hold exactly this same notion as a tenet of its ideology. Today we can see that the idea of egalitarian equalism is counter to the natural complementarity between the sexes.
The higher ambitions of men will be more actionable and realizable when those men understand that their dominant role is what’s expected of them by society and women instead of an endless pandering to an unrealizable gender parity.
The moment men, through sheer effort and determination, finally achieve some precarious balance of equality between themselves and women, that’s when women will complain those men aren’t “Men” anymore.