Woman are not as loyal as you think: Must Read!

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I use Meetup.com to meet people with similar tastes in outdoor activities, bars/restaurants. Needless to say, I've tried keeping my "dating" life separate from Meetup. I don't need to use it as a hunting ground for women and I try to make it pretty clear as well.

I met a couple there and the guy was generally a nice guy. He was somewhat of a slob but overall a decent guy. His girlfriend was pretty attractive and we had a lot in common. I thought nothing of it until the point where some of the groups hangouts concluded with me and her being the last two at a bar.

I was pretty intoxicated at one point and said, "Well, you at least get to go home to him and have sex, I get to go home alone and finish myself off."

Little did I know, she wanted to finish me off. She did. Twice. And went home to her boyfriend. After that, she's texted me once or twice to go "hang out". They are in the midst of "breaking up" anyway, she says.

They both were there at Meetups following the incident. She couldn't stand the attention I was getting from other women sometimes even when her boyfriend was THERE. She expected me to be "loyal" to her even though she wasn't being loyal herself.

I'd never, ever, EVAR try to make this girl my LTR and her behavior is being treated accordingly. Just because they were together and lived together, it means NOTHING to her, because she already had her mental justifications for what she was doing.

Danger said:

Another great post In2theGame. It seems that the three of us have experienced similar stories at this point and have a lot in common. What is craziest is that the more you "do not give a $hit" and put people in their place, the more pu$$y it draws to you. Women CRAVE that. Sometimes it is just so hard to help men realize that.

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That is 10000% truth lol right off the bat when i read that, i thought of times when i raised my voice to a girl i was seeing or a girl i had just met and was speaking to them "raw" as in i really didnt care what i said or how it made her feel. I would say some dirty things and the end results would be their panties down to their ankles. Just so many examples i can give on this right off the top of my head. Great post. as true as they come.

Something I just learned after being with my ex cheating bigamist h0r wannabe wife. I never knew this before:

There were two ranges of time I can remember her pvssy having a really abnormal funk wayyyy worse than ever. Hard to describe. Maybe like burnt human flesh that then went sour ??? It happend at the beginnng of our relationship, and then again at the end.

After the fact I got to talking on FB with a couple of her exes who hate her just as much as I do. I explained this to one of them about her pvssy. He said when two or more mens' cvm enter a woman at the approximate same time, the woman starts smelling really fowel as a result of some kind of PH factor thing being off from the two sperms and the vag adjusting to the second one. He said when the h0r cheated on him he researched and figured this out.

So on this topic of cheating.. Guys married or in a LTR, go sniff your woman's hew-ha and if it smells really fowel, she may be in the 50%+ club!

Western women are not good for monogamous relationships. Even some foreign women who come here, interact with the women here eventually go bad.

It's a bad idea to have a monogamous relationship with western women. It's pretty bad now, can you imagine if it gets worse? How much worse could it get?

Now that's fvcked up

So your choices are to learn to be ok with pump n dump, or find a woman who is not broken(which is rare here).

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

50% of women cheat.....to me that's awesome. You know why???

That means that 50% don't cheat.

I know misery loves company, and crying in your soup is a way to deal with the pain. However, with 50% of the women out there cheating, how many stories do you think there are of women cheating? With the internet and a site like this, how many of us here have stories of women cheating on them? Does anyone search out a site like this to talk about how faithful their gf/wife is?

50% of women cheat......

If 50% don't, then you know how many women are out there that don't cheat????

FVCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were you guys, I wouldn't focus on staying away from women that cheat. INSTEAD, try focusing on getting with a woman that won't cheat. How are you going to get yourself into that category? Two different schools of thought.

If any of you played baseball you'll understand. When you're up at the plate getting a fastball down the middle, what's a better thought to have?

-don't miss (negative)
or
-hit the fvcking ball (positive)

Which one of those two should you be saying to yourself?

Peaks&Valleys said:

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

50% of women cheat.....to me that's awesome. You know why???

That means that 50% don't cheat.

I know misery loves company, and crying in your soup is a way to anyone search out a site like this to talk about how faithful their gf/wife is?

50% of women cheat......
If 50% don't, then you know how many women are out there that don't cheat????

FVCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

f?

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So using this logic, and hypoththetically speaking, if you knew that 50% of the teachers at a middle school were convicted child molesters, would you let your 11 year old daughter go there?

Kailex said:

They both were there at Meetups following the incident. She couldn't stand the attention I was getting from other women sometimes even when her boyfriend was THERE. She expected me to be "loyal" to her even though she wasn't being loyal herself.

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I want those in the "no boundaries necessary" camp to pay special attention to the above. Read and reread it until the truth behind it sinks in.

Anyway, have also been in a similar situation and can support what others say. In the early 90s I was a bank executive with a large multibranch territory. I visited each branch once or twice a month, so was perceived as a bigger wheel than I actually was. I was about 20 OW at the time, so not in prime shape, but the attention was relentless anyway. The better looking ones were the worst. I would get invitations to go party in hotel rooms regularly. Branch managers would try to clue me in on which hot married tellers would put out. They would literally come in my windowed office in the middle of the workday and start giving me a backrub It was a real eye opener. Others would tell me their husband was going out of town for the weekend and ask if I was going to be around. Over my time there, about 90% of the younger women there hit on me, most married or engaged. And it was all because of a false perception that I was some big wheel in the bank. There was as strict no dating policy and a very gossipy workplace so I stuck to friends of the women, and that just goes to show how wanton they were. They knew they could get fired and outed very easily and still went on cheating right and left without a care in the world.

In2theGame said:

That is 10000% truth lol right off the bat when i read that, i thought of times when i raised my voice to a girl i was seeing or a girl i had just met and was speaking to them "raw" as in i really didnt care what i said or how it made her feel. I would say some dirty things and the end results would be their panties down to their ankles. Just so many examples i can give on this right off the top of my head. Great post. as true as they come.

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Its funny because I too myself have noticed this work many times. I am from New York and I was raised by a loud in your face Italian family. When I came to Los Angeles I stood out like a sore thumb lol.

I have been here 5 years and when I go out and women, especially the LA natives are busting my balls I TEAR them a new butt hole :cuss: (playfully of course) and they HATE IT...and none of the other LA raised guys do it. And guess what? The ones I was bashing are the girls I end of smashing later that night lol.

Peaks&Valleys said:

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

50% of women cheat.....to me that's awesome. You know why???

That means that 50% don't cheat.

I know misery loves company, and crying in your soup is a way to deal with the pain. However, with 50% of the women out there cheating, how many stories do you think there are of women cheating? With the internet and a site like this, how many of us here have stories of women cheating on them? Does anyone search out a site like this to talk about how faithful their gf/wife is?

50% of women cheat......

If 50% don't, then you know how many women are out there that don't cheat????

FVCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were you guys, I wouldn't focus on staying away from women that cheat. INSTEAD, try focusing on getting with a woman that won't cheat. How are you going to get yourself into that category? Two different schools of thought.

If any of you played baseball you'll understand. When you're up at the plate getting a fastball down the middle, what's a better thought to have?

-don't miss (negative)
or
-hit the fvcking ball (positive)

Which one of those two should you be saying to yourself?

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1. You do realize that these stats are usually under-reporting incidences of cheating right? Some people will lie about cheating even in anonymous surveys. Id love to think it was only 50% cheating in marriage. But can you imagine the cheating rate for those who arent even married?

2. Its not a good thing that maybe only 50% of women dont cheat. A 1 in 2 chance of having your woman play you is just terrible.

Best thing is not to work up yourself over this and.... this is why the bible exists. Women who follow its teachings do their best not to cheat.

Jaylan said:

1. You do realize that these stats are usually under-reporting incidences of cheating right? Some people will lie about cheating even in anonymous surveys. Id love to think it was only 50% cheating in marriage. But can you imagine the cheating rate for those who arent even married?

2. Its not a good thing that maybe only 50% of women dont cheat. A 1 in 2 chance of having your woman play you is just terrible.

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Which is why its better to treat them as sexual objects. That's exactly what they deserve.

To add to this. When I lived in another state. I worked in a country club/ golf resort for wealthier people. I worked with mostly women, as a server in the restaurant, at weddings ect... I was with my ex at the time and I stayed loyal to her because she was to me (at least during this time, she may have cheated in the end, who knows) well I basically treated all the women with indifference, but I would have small talk with them.

I know I had at least three girls into me. One of them was a life guard, probably around 18 (a rich girl, if your parents go to the country club you can only work as a life gaurd) during her break, when I worked the pool, she would get a chair and sit there trying so hard to make conversation and get my attention (she never got it).

Another server who had a boyfriend as a cook I think was really into me. We would be polishing the silverware, and she would make little comments like "you smell good" and she always gave me those eyes showing she liked me, she was kind senior to me because she worked there much longer than me, but she was always extremely nice to me, and even shared her tips when I didnt get much.

Well her boyfriend who was the cook (I didnt know this until later) got extremely jealous and start acting like he hated me. At the time I had no idea why this guy was being a c0ck sucker about everything. But once I found out they were dating, everything lined up and made sense. She probably had a crush, and he probably found out. I could have ****ed her for sure, but I was loyal to my gf at the time. I probably could have ****ed her at work.

I didnt event try to make this situation happen. She liked me all by herself. I pretty much kept to myself, and just treated every one there like its business (because it is one).

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

50% of women cheat.....to me that's awesome. You know why???

That means that 50% don't cheat.

I know misery loves company, and crying in your soup is a way to deal with the pain. However, with 50% of the women out there cheating, how many stories do you think there are of women cheating? With the internet and a site like this, how many of us here have stories of women cheating on them? Does anyone search out a site like this to talk about how faithful their gf/wife is?

50% of women cheat......

If 50% don't, then you know how many women are out there that don't cheat????

FVCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were you guys, I wouldn't focus on staying away from women that cheat. INSTEAD, try focusing on getting with a woman that won't cheat. How are you going to get yourself into that category? Two different schools of thought.

If any of you played baseball you'll understand. When you're up at the plate getting a fastball down the middle, what's a better thought to have?

-don't miss (negative)
or
-hit the fvcking ball (positive)

Which one of those two should you be saying to yourself?

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50 percet is of the women who admit it to the study. Other women could be lying. And its not like they tested the whole female population either. Its called sample size

PeasantPlayer said:

50 percet is of the women who admit it to the study. Other women could be lying. And its not like they tested the whole female population either. Its called sample size

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Yup. All the women who didn't will say they didn't. Some women who did will say they did, some who did will say they didnt.

dasein said:

I want those in the "no boundaries necessary" camp to pay special attention to the above. Read and reread it until the truth behind it sinks in.

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That sounds to me like a scenario where she's either branch swinging, or with a beta provider. So.....

But can you imagine the cheating rate for those who arent even married?

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You think more gf's would cheat than wives? I would actually think it was the other way around.

Danger said:

What is craziest is that the more you "do not give a $hit" and put people in their place, the more pu$$y it draws to you. Women CRAVE that. Sometimes it is just so hard to help men realize that.

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*facepalm*

*five minutes later removes palm*

I would honestly like to see how "do not give a $hit" correlates with telling women they can't hang out with other guys. Actually, on second thought, I don't.

PairsPlusRoyalFlush said:

Im giving it once more chance after the current one if the current one blows up. The current one is soooo traditional in so many ways and has a stacked body but does not have a strong moral code. The next one will be a religious fundamentalist. After that, I'm giving up.

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Hypothetical question here Pairs. If she does cheat on you, are you going keep giving advice to young men on here on how to keep a woman from cheating?

Best thing is not to work up yourself over this and.... this is why the bible exists. Women who follow its teachings do their best not to cheat.

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We can't base human nature on books with no facts. FAITH is a empty promise pertaining to a lot of things. Religion has nothing to do with this, because not everyone is religious, some are atheist or agnostic. My moral code and ethics come from my heart, my emotions my own intuition, not being told so in a book with no scientific basis.

No they aint loyal its the truth

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

When did I ever give such advice?

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I do not know how to respond to this.

PairPlusRoyalFlush said:

Has Danger not pounded into your head yet that the primary reason for boundaries is not to prevent cheating but to prevent entering and prolonging relationships with predisposed cheaters?

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Oh yeah, that's right. So if they say they're going to comply with your boundaries that means they're not a cheater.

Didn't you complement the post about how women are like recovering Alcoholics when it comes to cheating?

What do you think the better way to find out if someone's recovered?

Ask them.

or

Stick them in a bar for a week.

Peaks&Valleys said:

Hypothetical question here Pairs. If she does cheat on you, are you going keep giving advice to young men on here on how to keep a woman from cheating?

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PairsPlusRoyalFlush said:

When did I ever give such advice?

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then in the same post....

PairsPlusRoyalFlush said:

But it does mean that it will become more difficult to get away with cheating because they can no longer hide in it plain sight, as women love to do. If they violate the boundary (being with another man) then they get dumped, long before any cheating occurs. And when you come back with the strawmen ad nauseum that they will just hide it, that is also the case when no boundaries are given so what is your point?

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Not sure what you had against my analogy.

PairsPlusRoyalFlush said:

Let me help you because I can tell that your diseased mind is struggling to retain the information that Danger already shared with you.

First of all, alcohol is a terrible analogy because in the dating context, hanging out with guy friends 1 on 1 is itself bad while drinking is not.

Secondly, you wouldn't ask the person if they drink, that's not an analogy. The equivalent would be to say "my boundary is that I don't date women that drink alcohol."

Is an alcoholic seriously going to agree to those terms?

Even if she did...

What do you think gives to a swifter and more certain grounds and resolve for a breakup when you smell wine on her breath and she says "oh, I had a glass of wine with dinner"?

A) passive aggressive no-boundaries
B) boundaries where she blatantly violated your wishes

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You must not remember this post from yesterday:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2152480&postcount=95

I did edit my alcohol analogy before I saw your reply, I added in the "recovering", might of made a difference.

Jaylan said:

Having never cheated...

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Jaylan said:

I dunno if Ill ever be married, and sometimes I wonder if Ill ever exclusively commit to one women...

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Of course you've never cheated if you've never been in an exclusive relationship! You are a funny guy Gaylan.