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They fail to mention a few things in these articles... there was apparently no gay slurs just giggling during the times the guy used a feminine voice and the man in question was beaten by his gay drug dealer boyfriend.

Those are nicely left out to achieve a certain... 'slant'.

Just more gay agenda in your face.
 

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Had a pandora ad come up today, "Stand with Hillary and defeat voter suppression! Florida is purging their voter rolls in discriminatory ways!"

What they never mention in those ads or other agitprop is that every secretary of state in every state is tasked with maintaining the accuracy of voting rolls. Hell, it's one of their primary functions to remove non citizens, deceased, multiply registered and moved out of state voters. If they don't do that, SOSs don't get reelected, especially in Fla where they don't ever want the attention of a 2000 repeat again. If it so happens that more of this or that group is removed, too bad so sad as long as the removal process itself is impartial. "De facto" segregation or discrimination outcome reasoning holds no water. Same thing with the "voter ID suppression debate."

But of course the simple, common sense truth of it is not important to the propaganda machine. Rabble will believe anything that allows them to look in the mirror in the morning and not see a thief staring back.
 

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I guess you only like to read the news that suits you, right?

The "Liberal Media" claim is a joke. You have CBS, NBC, ABC who has a 30 minute nightly news program that devotes about 10 minutes to the President, the rest focuses on other issues in the world.

You have FOX News, right wing magazines & newspapers, right wing internet blogs, and thousands of right wing talk radio stations all across the country promoting the same false right wing talking points each and every day.

The Right controls every major outlet of media, get your facts straight.
 

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rascal99v said:
You have CBS, NBC, ABC who has a 30 minute nightly news program that devotes about 10 minutes to the President, the rest focuses on other issues in the world.
You? Who's You?

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You have FOX News,
Yeah, should have stopped there.

rascal99v said:
right wing magazines & newspapers, right wing internet blogs, and thousands of right wing talk radio stations all across the country promoting the same false right wing talking points each and every day.
All this is meaningless.

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The Right controls every major outlet of media, get your facts straight.
You forgot to mention Hollywood. Wonder who runs that show?
 

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I seem to recall media bashing on Bush WAY more than the current Messiah.

And why not? The facts are he started an unneccesary war that killed over a jundred thousand people. I hope Bush rots in hell.
 

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Annnnnndddd thread locked.
 

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rascal99v said:
I guess you only like to read the news that suits you, right?

The "Liberal Media" claim is a joke. You have CBS, NBC, ABC who has a 30 minute nightly news program that devotes about 10 minutes to the President, the rest focuses on other issues in the world.
:crackup: Yes, exactly, you only read news that suits YOU! You should consider looking at yourself in the mirror before saying anything.

American news cover "other issues in the world"? You have been living in the rock, have you? American media is only concerned of American news. Last time I watched CBS, NBC, and ABC, I felt my IQ dropped a few points. They talk about Kardashian new perfume line, the new fitness program to lose more fat, how to beat traffic, bla bla bla. When does it talk about the world? Unless it's a major disaster that involves people dying, never.

Does it ever talk about Chinese economic expansion to Africa? Did you know Obama went to Africa this year was to talk to African leaders to prevent that? Did you know the recent Golden Dawn movement in Greece, and Franco-fascism in Spain? Did you know Shinto Abe is trying to bring Japan back to its nationalism glory pre-WW2 (which increases the tension in the Pacific between Japan and the rest of nations in Asia)? Wait, who is Shinto Abe? Exactly.

CBS, NBC, and ABC never talks about "other issues in the world".
 

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Danger said:
I too think Bush should rot in hell, but Obummer is no different. To portray one in a bad light (although justified) and one as the next coming of Jesus is ridiculously hypocritical. Especially given the IRS scandal, Benghazi scandal, Fast and Furious scandal, etc,... But hey, if you disagree with the dip$hit in chief, it just means you are racist.....even if you have an army of facts on your side.
I don't think Obama is great at all. He conned the nation with his hope and change BS, and people obviosuly did NOT get who they voted for. But Bush was worse in my opinion. Can't believe what I saw from that administration. The Obama scandals are not that shocking. At least he stayed out of Syria. Got to give him credit for that one. I think the healthcare law is good in the long term.
 

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Danger said:
In the end, my point still stands that the leftist media machine will NOT call Barry out, whereas if Bush had done the same things, it would be ridiculed endlessly.
That's true. I don't watch the crap media anymore. You get better news from Al Jazeera than Fox or CNN.
 

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Peaks&Valleys said:
You? Who's You?
"You" is everything is general.


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Yeah, should have stopped there.
Why stop there, when there is a lot more right wing outlets to get your biased information?


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All this is meaningless.
You are trying to hide from the facts. It's meaningless? Why is it meaningless when right wing conservative media totally outnumbers any liberal media? Then you try to claim that there is a "liberal bias" when there is not. That is just a right wing talking point that conservatives try to use, it doesn't work when you actually look at the facts.

All the major radio groups are conservative and they own hundreds of stations all through the U.S. iheartradio, clear channel, citadel, cumulus, etc all have conservative owners who syndicate right wing and local right wing programs on their stations. Newspapers are owned by conservative groups. Then you have all the internet sites as well. They totally outnumber any liberal radio stations, newspapers, and web sites.

Look at all the right wing syndicated talk show hosts compared to liberal talk show hosts. 20 right wingers compared to like 2 liberals who are on less markets. I think that is meaningful. So I ask you, where is this "liberal media" that you speak of?


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You forgot to mention Hollywood. Wonder who runs that show?
LMAO. Hollywood? You are trying to use Hollywood as your defense of a "Liberal Media"? This is really weak.

So, George Clooney making a statement that he supports President Obama compares to several hundred right wing stations broadcasting their propaganda all day? That is really weak.

Hollywood is for your entertainment, they don't control what you can hear on the radio or read in the newspapers. The owners of the papers and stations provide the consumers with their format. The "radio show" is run by a right wing media that repeats the same talking points all day long. That is why you and Danger believe the same false propaganda that you read and hear every day.
 

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I seem to recall media bashing on Bush WAY more than the current Messiah.

Well, when you lie about the reason of going to war and run up massive debts for 8 years, he should be held accountable for it. Also, almost the entire media were cheerleaders for Bush's war before it even happened.


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Every drawing of Bush in the papers showed him with big ears and looking like a chimp.
LMAO. Cartoons? You are trying to use cartoons as your defense of a "Liberal Media"? This is really weak.:crackup:

2 cartoonists in a handful of newspapers doesn't compare to several hundred right wing conservative radio stations all through the U.S. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. The 2 cartoonists are syndicated, that means that their cartoons show up in the newspapers that only allow them to be shown. Right wing talk show hosts are syndicated too. Their shows are broadcasted over several hundred radio stations all day long. The radio stations outnumber any of the newspapers. So I ask you, where is this "Liberal Media" that you speak of?

Go back over the years and look at all the cartoons of the Presidents. ALL of them were made fun of as caricatures. Nixon had a long nose. They drew Carter with big teeth. Reagan had an old wrinkly face. Bush Senior was given a super long face. They drew Clinton with a big red nose and made him fat. Bush had big ears. They draw Obama with big pointy ears. Every President was drawn as a caricature since they started to draw cartoons. This is your defense as a "Liberal Media"? HAHAHA:crackup::crackup::crackup:


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One guy wear's an Obama mask to a rodeo and acts like a clown, and suddenly it's a media feeding frenzy.
That is one example, but don't forget all the racist cartoons and pictures of our President that were put on the right wing web sites and on signs at right wing rallies.

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I think you have a little bit of bias if you think media is right-wing, LOL.
I'm not being biased, just speaking the truth here.

How about a little homework assignment? Go to all the talk radio stations in the U.S. and count the number of right wing stations to liberal stations. Then go and count all the conservative newspapers to the moderate to liberal papers. After that, count up all the right wing blogs and web sites compared to the liberal ones. Come back here and report your findings. Then show me where this "Liberal Media" that you believe exists.
 

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:crackup: Yes, exactly, you only read news that suits YOU! You should consider looking at yourself in the mirror before saying anything.
LMAO. So, you know what news I read and watch huh?:crackup: I read and watch everything from moderate, to liberal to conservative. Then I make sure what they are telling me is actually correct. I just don't take the talking heads at their words and believe it as fact like the gullible sheep on the right do.


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American news cover "other issues in the world"? You have been living in the rock, have you? American media is only concerned of American news. Last time I watched CBS, NBC, and ABC, I felt my IQ dropped a few points. They talk about Kardashian new perfume line, the new fitness program to lose more fat, how to beat traffic, bla bla bla. When does it talk about the world? Unless it's a major disaster that involves people dying, never.
Wow, you are dumb. You are confusing your local news instead of the 30 minute national news on CBS, NBC, ABC. If there is a major event going on in the world, it is covered. How much news do you expect to get into a 30 minute time frame plus commercials? Yes, they are talking about other issues instead of a "Liberal Media" praising President Obama like these right wingers claim.


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Does it ever talk about Chinese economic expansion to Africa? Did you know Obama went to Africa this year was to talk to African leaders to prevent that? Did you know the recent Golden Dawn movement in Greece, and Franco-fascism in Spain? Did you know Shinto Abe is trying to bring Japan back to its nationalism glory pre-WW2 (which increases the tension in the Pacific between Japan and the rest of nations in Asia)? Wait, who is Shinto Abe? Exactly.
So, FOX News talks about all these issues too right? LMAO.:crackup: If Japan's glory days are brought back, then it will be covered as other issues in the world. So, far he hasn't, so it's a non issue. What do you think is more important to us here? His failings of trying to bring back the glory days or the Government Shutdown that cost our country $24 Billion in more deficits? Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

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CBS, NBC, and ABC never talks about "other issues in the world".

You are just being ignorant on this matter. You are living under the rock, because they do report other issues in the world. Watch Brian Williams, Scott Pelley, or Diane Sawyer at night and you will see the other issues in the world.
 

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rascal99v said:
"You" is everything is general.




Why stop there, when there is a lot more right wing outlets to get your biased information?




You are trying to hide from the facts. It's meaningless? Why is it meaningless when right wing conservative media totally outnumbers any liberal media? Then you try to claim that there is a "liberal bias" when there is not. That is just a right wing talking point that conservatives try to use, it doesn't work when you actually look at the facts.

All the major radio groups are conservative and they own hundreds of stations all through the U.S. iheartradio, clear channel, citadel, cumulus, etc all have conservative owners who syndicate right wing and local right wing programs on their stations. Newspapers are owned by conservative groups. Then you have all the internet sites as well. They totally outnumber any liberal radio stations, newspapers, and web sites.

Look at all the right wing syndicated talk show hosts compared to liberal talk show hosts. 20 right wingers compared to like 2 liberals who are on less markets. I think that is meaningful. So I ask you, where is this "liberal media" that you speak of?




LMAO. Hollywood? You are trying to use Hollywood as your defense of a "Liberal Media"? This is really weak.

So, George Clooney making a statement that he supports President Obama compares to several hundred right wing stations broadcasting their propaganda all day? That is really weak.

Hollywood is for your entertainment, they don't control what you can hear on the radio or read in the newspapers. The owners of the papers and stations provide the consumers with their format. The "radio show" is run by a right wing media that repeats the same talking points all day long. That is why you and Danger believe the same false propaganda that you read and hear every day.

It's meaningless because the only people who listen to right wing radio stations are right wingers.

The news that reaches "everyone" CNN and newspapers....it's all liberal. College professors, liberal. Hollywood (you know movies and TV show that EVERYONE watches), liberal. The list goes on...

What about the #1 newspaper in the country? Ever heard of the New York times?

What about the self-proclaimed "King of media" Howard Stern?

The reason for Fox News and conservative radio stations is because everything else is liberal.

Anyways, you've got enough posters on here to deal with :D Good luck.

EDIT: And that statement that Bush lied. How did he lie?? He thought, by the advice that was given him, that their were WMD's. He didn't "make it up". He didn't "try to fool us". Was it a bad decision? Was it not sound judgement? Did he not garner enough evidence? Possibly. But he didn't lie.

Why would he "make it up" if he knew that eventually it would be proven to be false?

It makes no sense. If that were the case, then he would have planted WMD's. Yeah, it could have been done. If he was scheister he would have done it. But he didn't, instead, he took it in the shorts, and will be doing so for god knows how long.
 
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Danger said:
I too think Bush should rot in hell, but Obummer is no different.
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I don't think Obama is great at all. He conned the nation with his hope and change BS, and people obviosuly did NOT get who they voted for. But Bush was worse in my opinion.
Why? Under Bush there was less middle Eastern conflict, less drone attacks killing innocent civilians, lower unemployment, economy was in better shape, debt was half compared to what it is now, gave more aid to Africa than any president ever including Obammy. Compared to Obongo, Bush was literally a good man. A comment I saw over at CH which I happen to agree with was that the "Bush bad" meme was a creation of 5th column media, which libtards obviously and even unaware conservatives still parrot to this day. Factually though it's bullsh!t.
 

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"You are trying to hide from the facts. It's meaningless? Why is it meaningless when right wing conservative media totally outnumbers any liberal media?
Weak troll or idiot. Choose. The only reason that conservative talk radio or Fox News exists is 80+ years of completely pink mainstream media, 95% of newspapers, 95% of magazines, all big three network news, all shows, all movies, all newswire services except Dow Jones... for decades. That's a fact, not an opinion. Once CNN went so far left, Murdoch saw a niche opening and capitalized on it. Limbaugh was on the radio for 10+ years before conservative talk radio took off, and as much as you harp on radio, it's a backwater in media world, has been for decades. If you don't like right wing media, then you have only lefty print media moguls, Hollywood and Ted Turner to thank for it, because without the total left slant for decades, it would never have gotten any share or traction at all.

BTW, I'm not a conservative or right wing, but an antisocialist libertarian who doesn't watch Fox and doesn't listen to talk radio, but tired of your semiliterate fabrications about the nature and history of American media.
 

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Why? Under Bush there was less middle Eastern conflict, less drone attacks killing innocent civilians, lower unemployment, economy was in better shape, debt was half compared to what it is now, gave more aid to Africa than any president ever including Obammy. Compared to Obongo, Bush was literally a good man. A comment I saw over at CH which I happen to agree with was that the "Bush bad" meme was a creation of 5th column media, which libtards obviously and even unaware conservatives still parrot to this day. Factually though it's bullsh!t.
Mainly the Iraq debacle is why Bush was worse. If there was no Iraq, you are quite right that Obama would be worse than Bush.
 

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It's meaningless because the only people who listen to right wing radio stations are right wingers.
Which makes up most of the radio stations here in the U.S. So, I ask you again, where is the "Liberal Media" in the radio media?

I'm not a right winger, but I listen to right wing radio to see how much the right wing is lying. I hear what they say. I check it out. Then I learn that is not correct. You should do the same.


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The news that reaches "everyone" CNN and newspapers....it's all liberal. College professors, liberal. Hollywood (you know movies and TV show that EVERYONE watches), liberal. The list goes on...
What list? You haven't named anything of value. Have you done any research yourself to know this? Don't take what you hear on the radio or Fox News to be factual.

It's all "Liberal"? So every piece of news that comes out is "all Liberal"? LMAO :crackup:

Do you realize how ignorant you sound? With your poor examples and biased opinions.

The news that reaches "everyone" is not all Liberal. Newspapers are not all Liberal. Billionaire right wing owners and corporations own most of them. Ever hear of Tribune? Ever hear of Rupert Murdoch? He owns over 25 magazines and newspapers that reaches the most people. He even owns 20th Century FOX Movie corporation. You like to talk about Hollywood so much. What about him and the other right wingers who actually own the companies? They are making money off your "Liberal Hollywood" as you claim. Why don't you find this stuff out first, so you don't sound like an ignorant idiot.

The TV Show Bones gives you "Liberal News"? :crackup: How does a TV show or a movie make a person Liberal? :crackup:

You are giving more weak examples. College Professors? College professors are not in the media. LOL How does a college professor that has a few hundred students compare to a radio station that has millions of listeners?

CNN has conservative pundits on their programs. You should watch it sometime. Newspapers are owned by conservative media groups. Hollywood does not provide you with news, only entertainment. Is this all you can come up with?

So, it's all liberal? How about a little homework assignment? Go to all the talk radio stations in the U.S. and count the number of right wing stations to liberal stations. Then go and count all the conservative newspapers to the moderate to liberal papers. After that, count up all the right wing blogs and web sites compared to the liberal ones. Come back here and report your findings. Then show me where this "Liberal Media" that you believe exists.


Peaks&Valleys said:
What about the #1 newspaper in the country? Ever heard of the New York times?
Ever Hear of The Wall Street Journal? The Washington Times? Arizona Republic? New York Post? Colorado Springs Gazette? Denver Post? Boston Globe? San Diego Union Tribune? That is already 8 to 1 dude, should I go on?


Peaks&Valleys said:
What about the self-proclaimed "King of media" Howard Stern?
Howard Stern is not syndicated. He is on XM and most people don't subscribe to pay radio. Actually Howard did support Bush at one point. Name me one big time syndicated Liberal talk show host.

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The reason for Fox News and conservative radio stations is because everything else is liberal.

So, far you only named CNN which is not all liberal. One Newspaper. Howard Stern. Hollywood and college professors who aren't in the media. Where else is this "Liberal Media"?

So, you're admitting that radio is conservative. Which has thousands of radio stations. You have Fox News and the conservative newspapers. So, where is the rest of the "Liberal Media" at? Where are Liberals going to get their news on the radio and in print when it's all conservative?

"Liberal Media" is an old tired right wing talking point. Conservatives claim a phony bias to push their right wing propaganda to get gullible fools like you to believe it. When you actually check it out, you will find that is far more conservative than Liberal. Check it out for yourself instead of believing what the talking heads tell you.


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He didn't "make it up". He didn't "try to fool us
LMAO :crackup: You sure don't know anything do you?

Didn't he fool you when he said America would be greeted as "Great Liberators" in Iraq when every leader in the World and General on the ground said otherwise?

What about him talking about "Mushroom Clouds" when there was no specific evidence?

What about him putting out Colin Powell as a stooge at the UN to lie about the specific reason for war?

What about The Project For a New American Century that laid the groundwork for war years before? That was singed on and supported by all Bush's regime.

What about Bush's own former U.S. Generals blasting him for fooling you. What about Colin Powell regretting even going to the UN and disgracing himself?

He didn't lie or fool us? My ass

See, when you only watch, listen, and read right wing news, you are very ignorant and don't know what's really going on.
 

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Weak troll or idiot. Choose. The only reason that conservative talk radio or Fox News exists is 80+ years of completely pink mainstream media, 95% of newspapers, 95% of magazines, all big three network news, all shows, all movies, all newswire services except Dow Jones... for decades.
What is with you right wingers with the movies and TV? Watching a Clint Eastwood film is not going to make you a Liberal. Watching NCSI isn't going to give you "Liberal News"? :crackup:

Rupert Murdoch and other conservatives own the movie companies. He Owns 20th Century Fox, a movie company, all FOX TV affiliates, and smaller production companies since 1987. That is just one example. Liberal Hollywood? LMAO :crackup:

See, you right wingers spout off the same garbage you hear from your conservative media. Peaks & Valleys and danger repeat the same things as you do. Those are the same old tired right wing talking points that you guys repeat.

When you are asked to name any Liberal Media, you only can say CNN. You can't name any newspapers or magazines. Hollywood doesn't give you news, so that doesn't count. The Three Big Networks have a 30 minute nightly news program that devotes 10 minutes to the President, if that, and the rest deals with other issues in the news.

If the Media was so Liberal, they wouldn't have been cheerleaders for Bush's war . He also would have been a one term President. Every Newspaper and News Program on TV dubbed him "the popular war time president" and gave him a free pass on why he lied about his war.

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That's a fact, not an opinion.
Well the problem is, that you haven't given me any facts. You just give your wrong opinions that you hear from your conservative media. I have given you lots of facts. Why can't you give some? You can't name anything besides Hollywood or CNN.

Since we're talking facts here, I ask you, where is this "Liberal Media" that you speak of? You can't name Hollywood or CNN. Name some newspapers and magazines. We already know that conservative radio dominates the radio media as well as print and TV. I only see opinions from you. Show me some facts.

How about a little homework assignment? Go to all the talk radio stations in the U.S. and count the number of right wing stations to liberal stations. Then go and count all the conservative newspapers to the moderate to liberal papers. After that, count up all the right wing blogs and web sites compared to the liberal ones. Come back here and report your findings. Then show me where this "Liberal Media" that you believe exists

dasein said:
Once CNN went so far left, Murdoch saw a niche opening and capitalized on it. Limbaugh was on the radio for 10+ years before conservative talk radio took off, and as much as you harp on radio, it's a backwater in media world, has been for decades.
Wow, you are dumb. Sounds more like lying to me. Conservative radio got prominent in 1982 when Reagan was President. AM music stations switched formats to talk radio including WABC which is as right wing as you can get. Don't try to downplay radio, that's where all the big money comes in for your right wing propaganda.

CNN didn't get popular until the Gulf War. Most people didn't have cable then. Murdoch already was buying up the media since 1987. Get your facts straight.

In 1998, right wing radio and the conservative media was trying to destroy President Clinton. The pill popper got started in 1988. Right Wing radio was in full swing since Reagan. That's 6 years before he was syndicated. Get your facts straight.

Oh, another thing. WABC is right wing radio owned by right wingers who also owns ABC TV.....Liberal TV media? LOL :crackup:

dasein said:
If you don't like right wing media, then you have only lefty print media moguls, Hollywood and Ted Turner to thank for it, because without the total left slant for decades, it would never have gotten any share or traction at all.
Actually, Murdoch owns over 25 magazines himself as well as newspapers. Isn't he a mogul? The Weekly Standard, National Review, The Christian Science Monitor, The American Spectator, The American Conservative are just a few of the right wing rags that dominate the print media. Can you name any Liberal magazines that even compare to those?

We have a conservative media that is controlled by radio. That you all admit to now. Print media that I just explained above. Fox News and all it's affiliates on TV. Only CNN is basically left. So, that's your "Liberal Media"? LOL :crackup:


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BTW, I'm not a conservative or right wing, but an antisocialist libertarian who doesn't watch Fox and doesn't listen to talk radio, but tired of your semiliterate fabrications about the nature and history of American media.
Well, Libertarians fall in the right wing spectrum. Right wingers who are ashamed to say they are republicans always claim to be libertarian. Sorry, but I don't believe you on that one. You repeated the same sh/t that Peaks & Valleys repeats. You get your same talking points from the same source. Conservative Right Wing Media. Now go get me some facts.
 
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