Eternal_water
Master Don Juan
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I've got an amazing idea, for all those people who think no fap doesn't work and think its stupid: don't go no fap and do stop paying attention to this thread.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
In all likelihood, the feelings and energy you are experiencing are the result of your exercise regimen, not no-fap. If you were really interested in conducting an experiment into the effects of no-fap you would keep everything else in your life unchanged (as much as is humanly possible) except for ceasing to fap. If you change too many things at once there's no way you can be sure that any changes are the result of no-fap rather than something else. (This is just basic logic.)Groovy said:Today is day 11 . I've been jogging every day for 40 minutes and doing a lot of exercise in general. I feel much better then I did before I started doing this. I have more energy, which is always a good thing. I am more confident, I guess. And I feel more like myself! Yeah! I like that!! Go go go! Woohoooo!
I've been sleeping 8 hours every day but today I slept about 10 hours... What gives? I think the exercise is the culprit. Opinions on that, please!
Guess I'm going back to day 1 then... which will end tomorrow night. For the morning, I'd say that in an average week, half the time I wake up to it soft. It has definitely been responding a little more the last couple days so something was working. But yes, many times during sex, we almost had to 'force' it to stay up. I haven't tested it lately though. Since my breakup, I've lost nearly 30 pounds (I was 300) and I've been taking Pygeum Extract to see if that would change anything. I've been also trying kagels whenever I remember but that hasn't been too often. Honestly, I'd have to say that being successful with a pillow is a good sign.Groovy said:That's not as heavy as masturbation + ejaculation, but still a little. I'd say go back to day 1. And go exercise instead of doing it with you pillow!You'll feel better in a while! Just one thing, do you have a hard on in the morning? Because from what you described, your body is ruined from doing it 8 times a week and you can't even get hard at all during sex!
I want to try to help, so pls answer. Not having a boner in the morning could indicate that something's not right.
I did do that. I used to fap every 3 days or something due to blue balls (read some other posts of mines). My resistance was way lower the next few days. :nervous: But I still slept only 8 hours... Now after no fapping for 12 days, I started sleeping 10 hours! Haha. Any comments on that? Maybe the exercise is getting to me? But after exercise, I feel more energetic and can't sleep for like 2 hours! But I wake up after 6-7 hours and am like "ok, let's go a little more". Psychological maybe? I'll try to set the alarm clock 8 hours after I fall asleep tomorrow. I hope my body hasn't stopped making testosterone... If that happened, I will have to do even more exercise! Wooooooooow!csycpr said:In all likelihood, the feelings and energy you are experiencing are the result of your exercise regimen, not no-fap. If you were really interested in conducting an experiment into the effects of no-fap you would keep everything else in your life unchanged (as much as is humanly possible) except for ceasing to fap. If you change too many things at once there's no way you can be sure that any changes are the result of no-fap rather than something else. (This is just basic logic.)
Don't do kegels! Trust me. I speak from experience. It will mess up your penis, kegels are good for women and in some cases for old people I believe. If you trust me, a random stranger from the internet, you won't do them. Also, try to stop ejaculating and do what I've been doing, exercising, do it especially since you're overweight. Let's see if you can wake up with boners every day (more exercise = better body!).AnimeAddict said:Guess I'm going back to day 1 then... which will end tomorrow night. For the morning, I'd say that in an average week, half the time I wake up to it soft. It has definitely been responding a little more the last couple days so something was working. But yes, many times during sex, we almost had to 'force' it to stay up. I haven't tested it lately though. Since my breakup, I've lost nearly 30 pounds (I was 300) and I've been taking Pygeum Extract to see if that would change anything. I've been also trying kagels whenever I remember but that hasn't been too often. Honestly, I'd have to say that being successful with a pillow is a good sign.
So, moral of the story today: don't have sex with pillows... you might get them pregnant.
As a side note: I will admit, since I was starting from day 1 again, I decided to let one go. I'm actually really glad I did... it felt amazing. It definitely gave me a reason to shoot for the 90 days now. (There was an overly excessive amount of *** though... most I've ever seen. Kinda scary actually.)
Keep up the good work everyone.
AA, out.
From the beginning
Day 6 mess up?
Okay then.. no kagels.Groovy said:Don't do kegels! Trust me. I speak from experience. It will mess up your penis, kegels are good for women and in some cases for old people I believe. If you trust me, a random stranger from the internet, you won't do them. Also, try to stop ejaculating and do what I've been doing, exercising, do it especially since you're overweight. Let's see if you can wake up with boners every day (more exercise = better body!).
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
What happened? Your mind is playing tricks on you... And you took the bait, like a rat takes the cheese!AnimeAddict said:Alright, So after Saturday's breakdown, I had a small issue that I just needed to confirm today before I get any further into my second attempt at this challenge (Trust me, it was a little necessary -.-; ). Needless to say, I will be beginning Day 1 today and will take another serious attempt at this challenge.
AA, out.
From the beginning
Day 1 take 2
Hey Everyone,Groovy said:What happened? Your mind is playing tricks on you... And you took the bait, like a rat takes the cheese!
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Hey Everyone,Groovy said:Warning: Super wall of text, more of a mind dump.
I've been doing a lot of exercise, at first it was like 30 minutes of running, then it went to 40 minutes, then one hour, I finally found a kid who wants to run with me- SUPER AWESOME. So we started "recruiting" more people to our "group". So far, yesterday was the first day another person showed up, so we were three, the other guy was CRAZY, TOTALLY HYPERACTIVE. All he wanted to do was sprint and run up and down stairs! We were beaten by the end of 30 minutes. We had also swam and walked 1 hour that day before, not to mention we went to the beach. But at the end of the 30 minutes the guy was like "Ok, enough for today" and we were like WTF? So he said "ok let's go do pushups and stuff", so we did that for like 15 minutes and then he split. Then we went running for more 40 minutes... When I came home I still couldn't sleep due! Haha. I've been having more wet dreams too. I sometimes pop a herbal pill when I'm too tired, but it turns out I am not. I've had a wet dream 3 days ago, yesterday and today too, what the heck? I managed to stop like 50% of it coming out. So, more exercise?
Maintenance... that's alright I guess. blind, so, do you work out? I think it's super important with no fap... if not, you'll get the side effects of too much enegy (testosterone). Especially at our age. AnimeAddict, you are the one who needs exercise, you jacked off a lot. Looking back, I see you've been biking and have more determination. Wonderful. Also, no offense, you're 29, that's a little older then we are, could that affect the recovery? Maybe. You did years of fapping every day, right? So I suggest you pay extra attention to your diet + sleep. How are you feeling tho? Glad to hear you stopped the kegels!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I'm not sure if you noticed, but this is a NO-fap thread.bcolon said:I fapped at midnight today and then did it this morning.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.