Women believe their own lies.

Strelok said:

Nothing to say about the gay guy who pretend to be straigh and makes a woman unhappy but let me remind you something.

If a man cheat on her wife he comes back to her the same way he left, nothing changed he just dropped his load on some other woman he wont see or call again.

Sorry but I call BS on this. Its just a guys way of rationalizing his infidelity and obvious lack of respect for his partner. Sure men have a greater need for sex, but we arent brain dead animals without cognitive thought and complex emotions.

If a woman cheat on her husband is probable that she is coming back at him holding someone else bastard inside her and if you sum this to a law that is close to justice as much as hitler is close to tolerance you will realize that is not exactly the same thing.

And it doesnt hit a woman as hard when a guy knocks up some random broad or a mistress?

In the first case she is receiving a minor damage that can be forgot just by leaving him, in the second case the poor moron is gonna pay money and giving check to his ex wife and her bastard son with obvious conseguences for his reputation and his wallet.

Lmao because cheating is minor as long as noone gets pregnant? Riiiight .

Both situations can happen to either sex, aside from the woman paying money. A woman can cheat on a guy just for some primal sex with a hot guy, the same way a guy can bust a nut and still profess his love for his partner. Its all bs though because cheating does not convey love or respect.

Conversely a man can cheat on his wife and get some broad pregnant and end up staying with his first girl while paying child support to the other lady. This adversely affects the first relationship and the kid by the other woman would grow up in a one family home. And Yes I have seen this happen.


Is it clear or are you gonna starting your infinite replies warfare till you get the last word as usual?

Its clear that your points of view are always horribly one sided and view the man as always getting shafted by a woman and the gal being evil. Bias thy name is Strelok

I avoided the stds topic cause its mutual even if the "receiver" has a highter percentage of risk.

Double standards exist for a reason, here one that help women, they can cry and b1tch how much they want with minimum conseguences while you know what conseguences suffers a man who does the same instead of man up.

Double standards exist because of ignorance and lack of progressive knowledge. I prefer to treat everyone equally and view things on a case by case basis instead of saying all women or men do this or that.

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Jaylan said:

My response is in bold as to address each point with ease.

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Strelok said:

Im still convinced you're a girl, not because dozens and dozens of other users have the same opinion but because I see in you the same pattern of reasoning I see in women as much as I see the same pattern of communication and content of your posts.

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Strelok said:

Equality? ahahah if you need a nazi law to be my equal it means you're not first, second mother nature didnt contemplate the idea of equality while creating two different sexes.

In modern egalitarian society, why should equality not exist? Your use of the phrase "nazi law" is ironic.

Im still convinced you're a girl, not because dozens and dozens of other users have the same opinion but because I see in you the same pattern of reasoning I see in women as much as I see the same pattern of communication and content of your posts.

And I am still convinced that you are an immature know nothing who has trouble grasping viewpoints that look at both sides of the coin. Excuse me for not being trapped in the same bubble as you. I however choose not to spout off about how crappy women are and how bad men have it.

Conversely I point out that men and women can and are just as crappy to one another.

I don't reply to you in order to convince you of anything, I reply to you in order to make sure the lurkers and the guys who read this forum in search of answers find something that they need to read to grow and realize what crap they've been told all their life, crap that you have no problem to enforce therefore killing the purpose of this forum.

And I reply so people can get a better chance to see how ridiculously one sided all of your arguments tend to be. Instead of ever successful taking apart my posts and proving why I am wrong, you simply say "oh hes a girl". You cant back up what you say in a logical debate so that is your consistent fallback

I lose more respect for you with every exchange we have. I would at least give you credit if you could back up your positions without the same typical "hes really a girl" bullcrap you try and pull when someone disagrees with you.

Its continuously pathetic, your behavior.

I have no problem if you call me names or accuse me of being sexist all that matters is that readers can see the fallacy of what you type and have an idea themselves.

Actually I leave the name calling to you my friend. Your past shows you have been very good at it. And btw, if what I type is untrue, please quote me and take apart my post piece by piece, the same way I do your posts. Until you can accurately debate with me instead of your usual Fail tactics, I say good day to you sir.

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Thundernuts said:

Thats a very good observation. Im also convinced as well. But i must agree that cheating is wrong regardless of what sex u are, as there are risks for both sides and all it does is show all the things that a man or woman does not want in a partner.

If u cheat, for whatever reason, whatever u are, its a symbol that who ever you cheated on is not someone you need to be with, either because of your flaws or theirs.

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Strelok said:

Cheating is wrong no matter who does it, wheter we're talking about relationships or work agreements, it wasnt my intention to say any different.

What I pointed out is that according to whos the cheater in a relationship the conseguences and the damages for the victims change.

If you girl cheat on you, you're the joke of the work place, if you cheat on her she's a victim that receive support from all while you're burned with any common female friend, a joke doesnt get the promotion while a victim gets simpathy, the rest has been already said in my previous post.

@Jaylan I see no reason to read or answer to your post taken in mind my previous statement, pointless to argue with a fake account, however I invite any user who listen at jaylan
to check the structure of her posts, you will find shaming and passive aggressive statements just like you can find on cosmopolitan forum and similar.

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Konada said:

Though I have to say, most females I met are fvcked in the head with no morals whilst guys on the other hand tend to know what they're getting into, even though they know is wrong.

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Strelok said:

Cheating is wrong no matter who does it, wheter we're talking about relationships or work agreements, it wasnt my intention to say any different.

Agree

What I pointed out is that according to whos the cheater in a relationship the conseguences and the damages for the victims change.

If you girl cheat on you, you're the joke of the work place, if you cheat on her she's a victim that receive support from all while you're burned with any common female friend, a joke doesnt get the promotion while a victim gets simpathy, the rest has been already said in my previous post.

Are you serious? You act as if guys never laugh at the fact that they get away with screwing other broads. As I said before, it goes both ways. Men and women can both be azzholes and can both get screwed over.

@Jaylan I see no reason to read or answer to your post taken in mind my previous statement, pointless to argue with a fake account, however I invite any user who listen at jaylan
to check the structure of her posts, you will find shaming and passive aggressive statements just like you can find on cosmopolitan forum and similar.

You see no need because you cannot answer to my post if you tried. You cannot refute what I say because you never engage me in logical debate. As I previously said, your only tactic is to call me a women. Its quite pathetic and shows a lot about you.

Basically anything you disagree with is deemed feminine or shaming...riiight When in reality I try and tell people to blame the individuals and quit all this stupid gender generalizing. Men arent saints and women arent either.

Keep a more even keeled perspective dude.

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Konada said:

I have to agree with the double standard of men and women. You fvck up as a man, you're shamed for life. You fvck up as a woman, you get away with it. See this is where I believe all these hate for women stem from, they deserve their duly punishment and they get away with it. Men in general get punished more often for their wrongdoings. Look at the Casey Anthony case for example, I'm sure if the offender was male he would've been thrown in jail instantly.

We as moral beings get pissed with people get away with unjust behavior. It fuels our hate for them and I think it's why majority do not consider the other side of the coin because their hate for the other gender derails them from objectivity. Though I have to say, most females I met are fvcked in the head with no morals whilst guys on the other hand tend to know what they're getting into, even though they know is wrong.

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Zodiac said:

Agreed. I met a girl earlier in my life that tried to drive me to suicide because I told her bf (my friend) that she had cheated on him and he thought she was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It was only after she tried to get him to help her get my to commit suicide did he break up with her and tell me what had happened.

The guy is happy now with a loving gf and girl got knocked up within 2 months of breaking up with my friend. If that isn't messed up I don''t know what is.

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Jaylan said:

So basically by ending it with a screwed up broad he ended up with a great girlfriend.

This basically proves my point before. Its all individual. You have to take people case by case. We all can come together and brainstorm about women and why they do things, but we cant act like men are all saints.

I bet we can all share stories about some fvcked up dudes we know or about things weve heard, but I know we could also share stories about some great guys we know to.

Get it know guys?

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Poonani Maker said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ[/url]

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Jaylan said:

Its funny how dudes conveniently forget the stories of the faithful wife who dealt with her self entitled husband cheating for years, but toughed it out for the sake of the family.

I have personally known two women like this. One guy cheated constantly, the other was secretly gay but didnt act on it and him and his wife stopped sleeping together.

Both sides of the coin my friends. Its all individual. There are both good and bad men and women.

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women haze said:

If i know a woman is married and flirting with me..I am not going to take her, I am going to tell her "what's up with your husband" Disrespectful. Call these women out...and this wouldn't be a problem.

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bigneil said:

I am friends with a married couple who have a 1 year old. The other day I noticed on FB the wife posted "My husband doesn't understand that I need a night out with the girls. I miss that.". All of her girlfriends were cheerleading her in the comment section and "liking" the fact that she was basically blackballing him on Facebook. I thought that was so wrong.

But that wasn't enough. By that point she had already left and told him she was "going out with the girls" (they are new in town) . She didn't come home that night (the Saturday of Labor Day weekend no less).

Then he found out she spent the night with another guy and (surprise) she cheated on him. So she was totally lying about "going out with the friends" to begin with, then had the audacity to demonize him for not believing her lie - on Facebook no less.

Anyhow, he moved out, but it's a lesson in how married women often "miss' whoring enough to believe their own lies.

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Buddha_Mind said:

I agree with Jaylan here. Come on guys this forum has too much women hating -- we can't hate women or you will repel women and never find a good one and yes good people exist.

In regards to cheating with either (a) chicks with boyfriends, or (b) chicks with wives, I stand by my position:

Why would you cut down another man who is struggling in the same ways because some floozy is looking for attention? If she is "with" someone, you are "walking into" a bunch of drama, pain and likely negative sh!t. Unless you are able to keep your emotions entirely detached focusing only on sex than you are facing a losing battle. And if you are both entirely detached, and only concerned about sex, and willing to bang some dudes girl...well, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself wtf is wrong with you? Why can't you find single girls? Why is your self-esteem and value so low you can only get taken women?

I used to have this thing where a number of hot chicks with dudes would hit on me -- I even had a female bartender I worked with grab my @ss most directly and I wish I could go back and call her out on that sh!t and scream RAPE or some crap just to draw attention to her wh0rishness. I was tempted by these girls, and got led down a tunnel by one particularly. Let me tell you something: it's all bullsh!t. Any woman who will cheat with you is a headbasket. She may be a quick lay. Fine. If that's all you fvcking care about. But for Christ Sakes you are walking into a mind-puzzle and you will lose. How many threads on this forum relate to dudes caught in some triangle? DO NOT WALK INTO A TRIANGLE.

*Every single one of these girls with BFs,etc who hit on me had very low self-esteem and had problematic relationships, and many of them were in a presently mind-fvcked place*

And you know what's even worse? After a lot of self-reflection I thought, what is it saying about myself that I'm even willing to entertain these girls? Don't I value myself enough to be with ch!cks who aren't completely untrustworthy? If you're banging chicks with boyfriends/husbands -- what does this say about yourself?

Even further: Think of it this way -- if you were around a friend of yours, and they completed stabbed you in the back and betrayed your trust and friendship -- are they someone you would still want to keep in your life?

If the answer is no, like most people would probably agree, why then, are you willingly taking on women who have already proven their ability to stab someone in the back and betray their trust?

Ask yourself this question and then tell me what this says about your own self-esteem and priorities.

In regards to the OP -- I feel bad for the dude, too bad he doesn't have the balls to walk away -- probably still cares about her and loves his baby. I agree with comments that facebooking relationship drama = ultimately low. One of the many reasons I got rid of my social networking and have never looked back and never regretted it.

Men believe their own lies too. So do women. I agree with Jaylan that there are some sh!t people out their, penis or vagina as their attached device of destruction...



I agree with you women_haze. And your stance takes balls. And integrity. Most men are so eager for the pvssy they don't give a fvck how or where it comes from...hurt some innocent dude for an ejaculation? Sure why the fvck not...

If every man or woman, when confronted with a cheater, called their BS on them straight up, it would be very righteous. :rockon:

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Buddha_Mind said:

I agree with Jaylan here. Come on guys this forum has too much women hating -- we can't hate women or you will repel women and never find a good one and yes good people exist.

In regards to cheating with either (a) chicks with boyfriends, or (b) chicks with wives, I stand by my position:

Why would you cut down another man who is struggling in the same ways because some floozy is looking for attention? If she is "with" someone, you are "walking into" a bunch of drama, pain and likely negative sh!t. Unless you are able to keep your emotions entirely detached focusing only on sex than you are facing a losing battle. And if you are both entirely detached, and only concerned about sex, and willing to bang some dudes girl...well, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself wtf is wrong with you? Why can't you find single girls? Why is your self-esteem and value so low you can only get taken women?

I used to have this thing where a number of hot chicks with dudes would hit on me -- I even had a female bartender I worked with grab my @ss most directly and I wish I could go back and call her out on that sh!t and scream RAPE or some crap just to draw attention to her wh0rishness. I was tempted by these girls, and got led down a tunnel by one particularly. Let me tell you something: it's all bullsh!t. Any woman who will cheat with you is a headbasket. She may be a quick lay. Fine. If that's all you fvcking care about. But for Christ Sakes you are walking into a mind-puzzle and you will lose. How many threads on this forum relate to dudes caught in some triangle? DO NOT WALK INTO A TRIANGLE.

*Every single one of these girls with BFs,etc who hit on me had very low self-esteem and had problematic relationships, and many of them were in a presently mind-fvcked place*

And you know what's even worse? After a lot of self-reflection I thought, what is it saying about myself that I'm even willing to entertain these girls? Don't I value myself enough to be with ch!cks who aren't completely untrustworthy? If you're banging chicks with boyfriends/husbands -- what does this say about yourself?

Even further: Think of it this way -- if you were around a friend of yours, and they completed stabbed you in the back and betrayed your trust and friendship -- are they someone you would still want to keep in your life?

If the answer is no, like most people would probably agree, why then, are you willingly taking on women who have already proven their ability to stab someone in the back and betray their trust?

Ask yourself this question and then tell me what this says about your own self-esteem and priorities.

In regards to the OP -- I feel bad for the dude, too bad he doesn't have the balls to walk away -- probably still cares about her and loves his baby. I agree with comments that facebooking relationship drama = ultimately low. One of the many reasons I got rid of my social networking and have never looked back and never regretted it.

Men believe their own lies too. So do women. I agree with Jaylan that there are some sh!t people out their, penis or vagina as their attached device of destruction...



I agree with you women_haze. And your stance takes balls. And integrity. Most men are so eager for the pvssy they don't give a fvck how or where it comes from...hurt some innocent dude for an ejaculation? Sure why the fvck not...

If every man or woman, when confronted with a cheater, called their BS on them straight up, it would be very righteous. :rockon:

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Jaylan said:

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Jaylan said:

^ ^

Your response makes it clear that you cannot back up your views nor ever accurately or logically refute mine. Instead of arguing the points you consistently try to derail the debate with off topic and baseless accusations. Its funny really.

You do no different than some of the other dudes on this board. When another person disagrees with you, that person must automatically be a woman, a mangina, an AFC, or some other name that seeks to debase the persons viewpoint. *Yawn* This happens all too often, when posters should really be bringing counter arguments to the table instead of taking the losers way out. Which seems to be attacking the posters character instead. A true logical fail.

Good job backing down though. I commend you for that at least. Have a nice day.

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P.S. - And its funny how you try to compare me to a poster who messages insults to other users when I dont do anything close to that. If I can recall you and your buddies on here throw insults around whenever you dislike the opinion of another member.

And if I can recall further, bigneil even physically challenged me and got all heated in one thread before, something I never do. Thing is he behaves exactly the same way you do. So spare me on your silly attempts to draw comparisons between myself and a poster who is very different from me.

Stop pretending like I am the only one in the forum, or the various threads I post in, that holds the opinions I do. DO YOU EVEN READ THE THREADS IN THEIR ENTIRETY?

NUMEROUS people have agreed with me on topics and spoken about the typical behavior that is rampant on sosuave over the last several years.

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