How Many Times ? ? ?

When working Day Game...i've noticed (from my experience and others on the board) that getting a Phone Number us done within 5 mins. If you and the Target are both working...then 5 mins is all you get....

Basically, you just met some chick...and she's interested enough to give you her phone number...but you really haven't had any time to build up rapport yet. Your Goal is to arrange a lunch date (or ****tail)... ASAP. You do that buy phoning or texting.

The question is: How many times should you try and contact her...(either through texting or calling) before she responds back? In other words...how many times would you call her (or text) before canning her number?

Remember you just meet her...so you haven't had much to go on...other than the few moments you had to make an impression.

I think you should try at least 5-6 times through texting or voice mail messages before giving up. I think you should start your campaign a few days after you met her....so she doesn't forget who the Hell You Are.

If she putz out...your last message to her can say something like "Hey Barbie...been trying to get with you but it seems like a Bad time...so why don't you keep my number and give me a ring when you're schedule permits!"

That's it...after 6 trys....give it up. Delete the number. (Something happened or some other dude who was before you is gettin it...and you ain't...so move on).

What the experienced Pros?

If she's willing to engage with you, the overwhelming majority of the time she'll do so after the first message. I don't bother trying more than once.

Of course, you really aren't losing much by trying a second or third time, so it's up to you. I just find that it's best to cut your losses as quick as possible so you can move on to new prospects.

Thanks Jeff,


The fact that she gave you her number (in 5mins) must mean that she is interested in conversing with you.

Are you willing to give up on this chick after 1 call?

Jeffst1980 said:

If she's willing to engage with you, the overwhelming majority of the time she'll do so after the first message. I don't bother trying more than once.

Of course, you really aren't losing much by trying a second or third time, so it's up to you. I just find that it's best to cut your losses as quick as possible so you can move on to new prospects.

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1) I read you should leave at most 2 voice messages or you'll become "that guy who's always calling". (Louis/Copeland).

2) Personally I would send at most 1 text message (or email or FB message) because I've never had a girl not text back. Also, if they don't text back with a question, I wait and text much later. Ask them out on the 3rd or 4th text.

3) If I call them and speak with them and they say they'll call back but don't, I lose the number.
Though I wonder whether this is too harsh.

4) If we make plans and they flake out, I'll try one more time unless:

a) They promise to make it up and/or text 20 times.
b) They suggest an alternate time for the date.
c) They had a good excuse like they lost their job and are in a bad mood (meaning you should avoid them until their mood changes anyway).

If any of those are true it doesn't count as one of the two strikes (two strike rule).

I wouldn't give up after 1 try, can use the 2 strike rule. However, if she's really fit then can give it a third go. After that leave it up to them and in the meanwhile move onto the next prospect.

Tony T said:

The fact that she gave you her number (in 5mins) must mean that she is interested in conversing with you.

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Not necessarily. She could have given you her number (if it was indeed her real number):

• Just "to get it over with" as she didn't dig you but wanted to be polite. She will never talk with you ever again.
• Because she's a screener with low IL who will never pick up the phone but will be more than glad to text to death with you, without ever going out with you.
• Because her BF is out of town and she needs someone to entertain her (and preferably spend money on her) without getting involved with him.
• Just to get her ego stroked, adding you to her list of men who are attracted to her and asked for her number.
• etc., etc., etc.
  OR...
• Because she found you attractive and is interested in conversing with you as she wants to get to know you better.

Just because a girl gives you her number, it doesn't mean she actually likes you.

We now return to your regularly-scheduled thread, already in progress...

LOL....very good.

However, i didn't say she liked me...(she doesn't know me)...what i said was "she is interested in conversing" (big difference).

I don't think that most women give out their numbers just to rid of guys. I think if they are aren't interested, they will say "i have a BF, or husband or i'm gay, etc."

-Screener...could Be. I never thought of this that way BUT,...that means she's qualifying you and you made it to the 2nd Heap. In this case, you still have a shot.


Thanks for your input!

~T

vatoloco said:

Not necessarily. She could have given you her number (if it was indeed her real number):

• Just "to get it over with" as she didn't dig you but wanted to be polite. She will never talk with you ever again.
• Because she's a screener with low IL who will never pick up the phone but will be more than glad to text to death with you, without ever going out with you.
• Because her BF is out of town and she needs someone to entertain her (and preferably spend money on her) without getting involved with him.
• Just to get her ego stroked, adding you to her list of men who are attracted to her and asked for her number.
• etc., etc., etc.
  OR...
• Because she found you attractive and is interested in conversing with you as she wants to get to know you better.

Just because a girl gives you her number, it doesn't mean she actually likes you.

We now return to your regularly-scheduled thread, already in progress...

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Here are some reasons she gave you her number but is not picking up the phone

She's
a) was drunk when she gave it to you...
b) too nice to blow you off completely
c) is thinking of leaving said boyfriend and is "testing the field'
d) is flattered and doing somethign spur of the moment that she'll change her mind about later
e) two or more of the above.

BTW, this type of behavior is very immature for a women...but you can expect it OFTEN when dealing with 18-25 yr olds.