Women's #1 Advice: "Just Be Yourself"

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If you ask a woman for advice on picking up women and dating, she will always say "Just be yourself." The second most common advice is, "You will find a girl when you stop looking."

Just be yourself ... when has that ever applied to any human interaction where something is at stake? Does it apply to sales? To stage performances? To job interviews? What if your "be yourself" is to wear sweatpants, not shower, swear, and talk about your beercan collection? If the advice instead had been "Don't act fake," then it would be true. But as we all know you can always improve who you are, and there are always things to keep in mind, like not talking too much about yourself. In anything you do, you can improve.

So why do women keep saying it? Because (1) they don't have any advice to give on dating, and (2) they don't want men to improve in picking up women. They are more loyal to those women than to you. If you would improve, that would mean you'd be in a better position versus the women you pick up, and women are instinctively hostile toward that prospect. They want men to serve themselves on a platter for women to choose from.

On top of that, they can't imagine a man being good at picking up women - other than imagining him as a sleazy, dishonest creep who treats women badly and then dumps them. That's what they have seen on teevee, so it must be true.

About "You will find a girl when you stop looking," it is one of those things that sound wise because they are paradoxical. If you actually listen to what it means, it is downright stupid. How would you meet more women by just going to work and then back home every day, never talking to anyone new? Again, women don't want you to hit on women. They don't want you to go looking, or do anything else that gives you an advantage. They want men served on a platter to choose from.

Much like people want a salesman to only list the facts of a product, and then say nothing more. But that's a salesman that will never sell anything. Why? Because people aren't rational. Maybe 10 percent of the population listen to facts only, but to the rest, emotions and other people's opinions are more important. So even when the product is good - whether it is the salesman's product, or you - people won't buy it when it is presented without flair.

Of course, they imagine themselves to be rational. The customers imagine that they look at products objectively. The women imagine that they look at men objectively. To puff their egos, they brag about not being affected by a clever sales pitch. So how is it that the aggressive salesman, or the aggressive PUA, scores time and again while the rest don't?

But this is not something you can talk to women about. No matter how well you explain it, they will imagine you to be a sleazy, lying SOB for suggesting that there's something more to picking up girls than "just being yourself." You can't undo what they have seen in TV shows, or the stories they have heard from other women. You will only make them suspicious of you.

So the moral of the story is: never ask women for dating advice. Just be yourself - if your self is the kind that never stops improving his game.
 

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Just Be Your Best Self- one extra word all the difference.
 

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Dude your post is way off target. Just be yourself is good advice.... and yes it just means stop pretending to be someone you're not. The you'll find someone when you aren't looking is actually chick speak for "Stop freaking HUNTING so obviously...stop looking desperate, nobody wants a desperate guy"... They just don't verbalize this stuff well, and from their perspective is about being the selector, based on the selectors perspective... they are giving good advice and for good reasons in the context of helping you find a long term person BASED on their selector criteria.
 

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I think the message is good, Don't go looking for your women friends to give you dating advice. I learned that early on, and i still see some of my friends making this mistake. But i think the rest of your post is off, seems like you got some pent up anger or something making women seem like they just want to control men.
And i agree with yuppaz about it actually being good advice, IT IS they just don't tell you all the information behind it. Kind of like being given a answer to a math problem, yet you still don't have a clue how to solve it.
You kind of need to already be comfortable and not insecure to actually genuinely act as yourself.
 

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I don't have pent-up anger, Bodhi. As women go, last year was a very successful year for me PU-wise, and I learned a lot from that.

"Just be yourself is good advice.... and yes it just means stop pretending to be someone you're not." --If you read the whole OP, Yuppaz, I said "If the advice instead had been "Don't act fake," then it would be true."

"IT IS they just don't tell you all the information behind it." --Actually, there is no other information behind it as far as they know. When asked, they have nothing more to say. It is a cliché that they parrot unthinkingly because it sounds morally superior, since improving your game in their mind can only be dishonest and evil. It means that you should not listen to any advice that would help you not be an AFC. They hate it. Just one example, the advice that if a woman pulls back, you being too pushy will drive her off, so you shouldn't keep calling her as often as you like. Tell a woman that, and what does she say? "That's ridiculous! JUST BE YOURSELF!"

(Ironically, women talk to each other constantly about guys they date and how they should go about it. This is also improvement. It is only bad when guys do it, because guys are only after one thing, right?)

My personal experience of this is telling some women I know about various wise points from the DJ Bible (not telling them where it comes from). Pretty nonsensical things, really. Their response is ALWAYS to reject it. They hate the idea of men improving their game. That's why women's ONLY advice is "Just be yourself," which really means "Don't try to improve, buddy." Tell them ANY way that you improve your game, anything you have learned about how women react which they haven't heard before, and they hate it. Any guy following the advice of the women around him when it comes to picking up women will be an AFC forever.
 

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Women say, "Just be yourself" because they're tired of getting involved with guys PRETENDING to be Don Juans and finding that they were just putting on an act to force a commitment so they could stop acting and get back to their chumpish ways.

They want you to "be yourself" for THEIR sake moreso than YOURS, because they would rather be able to accept/reject you based on an honest assessment than have to delve through the "front" you put up to determine if you're a quality guy or not.

Yes, you should "be yourself". But you also have the power to choose what "yourself" really is. That's where "game" comes in...it's practice so you can develop the right habits.

Game is WORK. Like a workout builds muscles and strengthens repetitive motions making you more fit to take on life, "game" is a regimen to improve your strength in interacting with other people, especially women. But just like going into the gym and doing 20 bench-presses once a month isn't going to make you "buff", going out with a girl and "running game" occasionally is not going to make a Don Juan out of you. It's a lifestyle-change.

All this "****y-Funny", "Neg-hits", etc, etc...these aren't tools or tricks, they're EXERCISES. We are not handing you step-by-step instructions, we're handing you a DIET and a TRAINING REGIMEN.

You have to have the WILL to MAKE something of yourself. And once you do, "yourself" is exactly what women will want you to be.
 

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*High-fives squirrels*

This is classic woman-ese people.

"Be yourself" = "Be CONGRUENT"

All too often guys will misinterpret this is being the same selves that has gotten them no success, which is why the wisdom of this advice is ignored. The key is being the type of self that gets more ass than a toilet seat. The game is a lot easier to play when you are not faking moves.
 

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I HAVE A saying.. just be yourself, but if you suck, become someone better, then just be yourself.

gaming women is alot like sales. you ask people what they want in a salesman and then you give it to them, they never buy **** lol, because they have never tried to sale anything. There is an art form to sales, just like there is an art form to women. try just being yourself enough on a car lot when someone says hey man I need to go home and think it over and see how many times you get undercut by the honda dealer across the street.

I think you guys are missing the link here. Women, want a man who in general is sure of himself, has his **** in order and knows his way around the opposite sex. If that is not you, you need to become that person, then just be yourself. If you are not sure about yourself, there is no neg hitting or game that is goin to over come that.

When a woman says just be yourself, what I interprate that is jsut to come at me "real". Don't try to hard in other words. NO one likes anyone who is "forcing it", male or female.


you know what, squirrels already nailed it. no need to add. good job.
 

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Women really do hate nice guys. If they really mean "just be yourself" then they must hate men that are nice because they are being themselves, and it must mean they really love jerks because they are being themselves.

If "just be yourself" was true then there would be no nice computer nerd programmers filling up PUA seminars because they can't get a girl to even pay attention to them.

When was the last time you saw guys that looks and acts like "the situation" from Jersey Shore at a PUA seminar? :D

I only see "nice guys." So in reality women don't want you to be yourself.
 

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f283000 said:
Women really do hate nice guys. If they really mean "just be yourself" then they must hate men that are nice because they are being themselves, and it must mean they really love jerks because they are being themselves.

If "just be yourself" was true then there would be no nice computer nerd programmers filling up PUA seminars because they can't get a girl to even pay attention to them.

When was the last time you saw guys that looks and acts like "the situation" from Jersey Shore at a PUA seminar? :D

I only see "nice guys." So in reality women don't want you to be yourself.
I agree that nice guys generally ARE being themselves. Like BB and Squirrels were getting at, women want guys to be themselves to make things easier for the women. She can then quickly determine if she is attracted to you if are real and not a faker.

But, they never said that being real guarantees attraction because it doesn't. See women don't want men to BECOME successful with dating/attraction. In their eyes, you are either naturally successful or you aren't and never will be. They just want to pigeon hole you as "nice guy loser" or "attractive guy.". They loath the idea that a guy could improve himself and change categories.

As a nice guy, have you ever suggested to a female friend that you want to work out, become more of a bad boy, work on your game, etc.? And what did she tell you?

She said something like, "Dont change. Don't be somebody you are not. Be yourself. You just haven't found the right girl yet.". She then texted some bad boy ex to come over and do her. Later that week, she tried to fix you up with her warpig friend that "would be perfect for you" lol.
 

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What women really want is someone true to their masculinity. Bad Boy, Jerk, Narcicist, what will you are cool with their masculinity and sexuality (letting the girl KNOW he wants to f*ck her). I am seriously starting to think that your masculine polarity is what you should be working on bringing out. Nice guys are actually not nice, they should be re-labeled scared guys. They are afraid to offend, afraid to break their own egoic construct...They will NEVER show sexual interest because they are afraid of rejection. They aren't being themselves because they aren't letting free their masculinity and sexuality...they never turn the girls on...THAT is what generates interest, not how nice you are, how STRONG you are.


Read that **** again and again until you get it. It's about STRENGTH and a distinct lack of FEAR, aka the love killer.
 

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Veridin said:
So the moral of the story is: never ask women for dating advice. Just be yourself - if your self is the kind that never stops improving his game.
+1

I remember my mom advising me to "just be yourself" when I had girl problems in 7th grade. If I listened to her I'd still be acting like a 12-year-old.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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