Let's discuss ... which is the ultimate trump? Money, looks, or personality/status?

This probably won't get far, but let's assume for a moment that we can divide areas of success into the following categories:

1) Money - loads of it. Enough to retire right now if one so desires.

2) Looks - genetic (face, height & other physical features), acquired (muscles, 6 pack, etc), and purchased (clothing and possibly cosmetic surgery).

3) Personality/social status - how outgoing and friendly you are, how many people you know/how many people know you, basically your popularity level.

Let's pretend these are the only categories. Let's also assume that each category is an extreme - extremely wealthy, extremely good looking, extremely outgoing. I do realize all 3 are linked: we can discuss all day how being good looking and tall will help you get more money and not need to develop your personality as much, but that's beside the point.

So here's the question:

If you had to pick 1 of these 3 categories which, over the course of time, would you say is the ultimate trump? That is, which would bring in the most women?

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I realize that no one here (or probably anywhere in the world) has an abundance of all 3 or has even mastered each one separately at any point in time, so I don't expect a clear cut answer, but perhaps we can get a good discussion going.

For instance, Johnny Depp - recently named the sexiest man alive again - makes loads of money, is very popular/I would assume has a good personality, and an attractive face, but he's a puny, pale stick and if he weren't a famous actor he wouldn't stand out too much. So he's got 2/3 down.

I have much to learn, but personally I think money is the ultimate trump.

Fame, which is a part of Social Status (your #3), is the ultimate trump card.

Every woman's ultimate dream is to be a celebrity (princess syndrome). Every hobby they have, everything they do, reflects their obsession with Fame. They'll do anything if you can help them get there.

Fame is therefore the #1 hook.

Having Money can help you get Fame (but not necessarily - however with Fame, often comes Money). Money is #2.

Keep in mind that there are guys with Fame who have no Money (nor much of Looks). Look at the phenomenon of notorious serial killer's groupies.

#3 would be Looks. Being seen with a good-looking man raises a woman's status. Ever wonder why women say "he just wants some arm candy" when they show their jealousy towards a man who's with a beautiful woman that they don't like? It's because they're projecting - their #1 goal of having a good-looking man is "arm candy" - to be seen in public with one. A man has many better uses for a beautiful woman than mere "arm candy" - unless he's a closet gay.

Having good looks also helps a guy achieve Fame.

Celebrity status would be first up. Celebs, even ugly ones, can get all the poon they can handle. Look at rock stars. Some are butt ugly and have girls lined up out the door.

If you can't be a celeb or powerful figure like a politician then I'd say looks. Looks will get you poon by club sluts any night of the week. All you have to do is not put your foot in your mouth and be able to pull the trigger.

Money is worthless unless you are playing at being a provider. Money will actually block you from poon in some cases where they'd give it up for an alpha, but as soon as they catch wind you could be their provider/sugar daddy, they'll ration it off for all the favors money can afford (travel, jewelry, fancy dinners, maid service, you get the idea).

dude you need to stop playing internet philsopher and go live.

what does the answer to the question you pose help you with your game when it's all said and done?

at the end of the day, you take no action and you become a middle aged worn out scorn bitter guy jacking off online to free internet porn all while preaching to "AFC's" the 'RULES OF THE GAME'.

someoen is always going to look better than you, you are always going to look better than some people

some people are going to have more game than you, you are going to have more game than some people

no matter how much money you have, there will always be someone out there with more. And even that, there will always be the woman that does and the one that doesn't give a damn

my gosh guys.

Option 3.

It gets you the girls and can save your ass in bad situations and it can very well bring you the other two options as seen in Justin Bieber's case the new rising star all the beta males hate but the girl's just can't get enough of.

If fame and money were the ultimate trump in and of themselves Paul Mccartney and Phil Collins wouldn't of lost so much of their fortune to conniving b!tches in divorce. They would've been smart enough to protect themselves by avoiding marriage or getting airtight prenups.

As for looks women will forgive an ugly face if you get your body in tip top shape.

Oh no. not this AGAIN.
Thank gawd STR8Up is retired. No more 10,000 words sermons about women and their evol psych.

backbreaker said:

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I'm with you Napoleon...

And for what it's worth, I'd pick money over the other two. And just hire people to do all the other stuff for me.

This thread is PLAYED.

It's really unfortunate, but these keyboard jockey threads get dozens or even hundreds of replies and yet actual field reports get maybe one or two replies.

Nutz said:

Celebrity status would be first up. Celebs, even ugly ones, can get all the poon they can handle. Look at rock stars. Some are butt ugly and have girls lined up out the door.

If you can't be a celeb or powerful figure like a politician then I'd say looks. Looks will get you poon by club sluts any night of the week. All you have to do is not put your foot in your mouth and be able to pull the trigger.

Money is worthless unless you are playing at being a provider. Money will actually block you from poon in some cases where they'd give it up for an alpha, but as soon as they catch wind you could be their provider/sugar daddy, they'll ration it off for all the favors money can afford (travel, jewelry, fancy dinners, maid service, you get the idea).

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This is simple.

NUMBER 2

Whether you are broke, you can't read or write, or have genital herpes, if you are an extremely handsome man, you will get women easy.

Omg..I'm am SOOO with backbreaker on this one. I've already said it in another debate that field reports get hardly NO REPLIES but these types of threads are filled with "tips".

And the OBVIOUS answer is money because you can BUY or even damn EMPLOY people to be your friend, woman, whatever. I would never do that but I know people that do.

I'd tend to think #3 is probably most important.

If you come off as "cool" & fun to be with, and you have high social status, you'll naturally attract women, and you'll attract a more balanced type of girl in my opinion.

Tons of $ attracts gold diggers.

VERY good looks attract narcissists.

jophil28 said:

Oh no. not this AGAIN.
Thank gawd STR8Up is retired. No more 10,000 words sermons about women and their evol psych.

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Not retired yet. After this I have one more to go and another month+ to craft my grand exit.

Then I will no longer be around to compose any more of those well thought out, articulate, 10,000 word "sermons" that make all of you hope-based moralists sh!t your pants at the thought that the "princess" that awaits you might not be that bastion of purity you HOPE she is.

Keep dreaming, dreamers. Jophil will always be here to reassure you that you weren't lied to your entire life, and that your fairy tale will one day come to fruition.

One more post and Rollo and the few remaining holdouts who choose rationality over faith will be the only hope for this rapidly deteriorating wank-fest.

Good luck, prince! Your princess awaits! And she is just as invested in the fairy tale as you are, so if you can manage to keep up the fairy tale facade, you just might land a temporary wife. "Till she decides to divorce you and steal you net worth, your dignity, and your soul, that is.

Fukk evolutionary psych. We all know life is totally random and unexplainable. jophil knows the way.

edit- BTW.....to answer the question that is the topic of this post.....status RULES. If you have social status you can be an 80 year old shriveled up PRUNE and still have centerfolds throwing their pu$$ies at you. Oh, but wait, any woman who would date a man outside the 1/2+7 rule is a golddigging wh0re. Please disregard all of my advice. I know nothing.

STR8UP said:

Not retired yet. After this I have one more to go and another month+ to craft my grand exit.

Then I will no longer be around to compose any more of those well thought out, articulate, 10,000 word "sermons" that make all of you hope-based moralists sh!t your pants at the thought that the "princess" that awaits you might not be that bastion of purity you HOPE she is.

Keep dreaming, dreamers. Jophil will always be here to reassure you that you weren't lied to your entire life, and that your fairy tale will one day come to fruition.

One more post and Rollo and the few remaining holdouts who choose rationality over faith will be the only hope for this rapidly deteriorating wank-fest.

Good luck, prince! Your princess awaits! And she is just as invested in the fairy tale as you are, so if you can manage to keep up the fairy tale facade, you just might land a temporary wife. "Till she decides to divorce you and steal you net worth, your dignity, and your soul, that is.

Fukk evolutionary psych. We all know life is totally random and unexplainable. jophil knows the way.

edit- BTW.....to answer the question that is the topic of this post.....status RULES. If you have social status you can be an 80 year old shriveled up PRUNE and still have centerfolds throwing their pu$$ies at you. Oh, but wait, any woman who would date a man outside the 1/2+7 rule is a golddigging wh0re. Please disregard all of my advice. I know nothing.

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You now have only one round left. Your reply above was a waste of one of your two remaining bullets.
Man, you are a hopeless tactician. I drew you out into the open and you obliged. Then you took a shot and halved your remaining ammo .

One shot left, Private. You going to fire in anger ?

Sorry, but Allen's policy is to close threads like this.