7 years, 7000 posts

Not me, not me, not me,...

...you're like the guy with ONEitis who makes his case for it by stating nothing applies to his particular experience because he's the exception to the general, sh!tty, rule. Don't worry, I still love you DAVENJUAN,..

Rollo Tomassi said:

It's been discussed on the Mod forum several times. IQQI is like the fat kid on the Simpsons who just floats into a thread to say "Ha-Ha" and then move on to the next one she can point her pudgy finger at.

But that's what you get when the NLGers who thought SS was such utter sh!t get tired of talking to themselves in their circle jerk. IQQI (like WYLDFIRE) just needs a catharsis and the boys at NLG aren't fun for her anymore so she needs to come back to the old playground to feel better about herself, when she's sober enough to type anyway,...

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so you say it has been spoken of, but why has no action been taken???

At the very least, the de-facto refusal of teenage males whilst allowing any-age females to post in Mature Man is completely hypocritical. Not that I'm advocating letting the teenies in, by any means.

She IS just another ****ing wyldfire. It took her like 6 years to be banned, but it finally happened. So why in gods name is iqq permitted to post anywhere, mature man included?

I realize you're just a mod and have no real power over this place, but since you're the only standing voice in the administration that posts anymore, I'd like to wring has much info as I can out of you. It's clear that I'm far from the only guy that would like some answers.

STR8UP said:

I don't have a problem with intelligent and experienced men challenging my view; I have an issue with guys who refuse to acknowledge the toxic nature of the culture we live in.

FACT- this site would not exist if the culture of gender roles and relations weren't fukked.

You guys are so intent on holding on to the fantasy that you refuse to acknowledge the fact that women today are, for all intents and purposes, UNDATEABLE.

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Hey bro, if you look at your 'American Women' thread and many of my past posts, I DO acknowledge and even lament the state of most American women, and the expectations that are fostered by our culture.

I think our disagreements float to the top and obscure all the rest of the issues we do agree on.

Maybe what we need is a FORUM where the theme is based more upon the BROADER spectrum of lies, rather than focusing on the "nice guy's finish last" stuff.

That's the problem with this place. It's a halfway point. It allows you to see through the lies that have served as a barrier to entry into the kingdom of pu$$y, but as soon as you get in and start to realize that this might only be the tip of the iceberg it tries to keep you in the "comfort zone".

I mean, why would most people want to step out of that? It's a good place to be. You have finally been handed the keys to the gate! Why would you want to think anything but positive thoughts about what's actually behind it?

Trader said:

For example, you say all women are sluts.

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Where do you get this from?

It's like a fat girl who can only attract beta males all her life - and so she ends up starting a thread saying: 'all men are weak.'

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This type of line is regurgitated on here daily, and it's funny to watch the same guys who say stuff like this finally AGREE with what keto posted in another thread, about how the biggest part of the problem lies not in how great of a man you are, but in the small size of the pool of decent women.

You can't have it both ways fellas. You either acknowledge that there these women are very rare and usually "taken", or you blame it all on "the kind of women you attract being the kind of man you are".

Scaramouche said:

Dear All,
Well,I bit the bullet,who is this Guru called Roussy? So Googling in that name out it comes,the first site is Roussy in DC,so here we go....Well what an anti climax,sure there is some wisdom there but the main theme is misogynistic,implying you are a criminal,bullets under their pillow,jars of arsenic,letters written in blood that's going to create unbridled lust and desire in a quality Lady?

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You might want to read beyond the latest tongue-in-cheek post before formulating an opinion about the author.

Anyone who reads a month's worth of his posts and comes to the conclusion that his views are misogynistic is the embodiment of the weakness and femininity that manifests itself in men today. It sounds liek you didn't read too far in, but I recommend you do. Some insightful stuff.

Hooligan Harry said:

Wish there were more people as interested in social dynamics as he is. Im beyond game theory these days and I think he is too.

Thats half the problem here though. People dont see his posts as a personal insight or an attempt to better understand the dynamics of communication between the sexes. They see it as a complaint or they see it as bitter.

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Here here. You can't speak of the dark side on here without being shamed. For every one person who wants to dig deep, there are two who fight it tooth and nail, and three of four who sit on the fence trying to play a middle ground.

Maybe the same could be said for those who dont have wealth, status or power and try to convince themselves they dont need it because their own egos cannot handle the fact they are at a disadvantage. And you dont need it if you are batting average and you want average. I just dont want average.

I wish the world worked your way too Jophil. Would not have to work half as hard for anything.

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There are two main reasons why so many guys fight the idea that wealth/status/power is such a big deal.

1) They are taught to not be "superficial", and that money doesn't matter

2) They don't believe they will ever really have any wealth/status/power so they have to tell themselves it isn't a big deal

This is another one of those subjects that is taboo. So few people have seen it in action that it's very easy to be dismissive about it.

samspade said:

Why bother banning her? Her arguments are idiotic and ill-informed. Banning her only gives her more credit than she deserves. Let her post her stupid b.s. There is nothing about her to be afraid of.

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She clogs threads. Almost every time she makes a post, a handful of other guys have to shoot her arguments down. And what about when some board irregulars actually take her seriously?

IN THEORY, I really wouldnt have any problem at all, because there is a board Ignore feature that I make liberal use of. But people quote her all the time, thereby completely negating the ignore feature.

And the principle of it, again, riles my nerves. Young men can't post here, but young women can? Mature Man, 25+, anyone? :\

It makes no sense at all. Just BAN, you know? Fire and forget. Save everyone some annoyance and misinformation.


What is established:
1) She is a woman posting in Mature Man.
2) She is entirely destructive to the board. A blatant demonstration of the known rule, Don't Take Dating Advice From a Woman.
3) Wyldfire fit within these parameters as well, and was purged. Carry out some uniformity in administration practices, please.

I think wealth, status, and power are HUGE advantages in attracting women. But so are good looks, a strong muscular physique, and sharp wit.

The attraction game is not only personally subjective but multi-factorial. The best way to maximize your attraction factor is to develop as many facets as you can, while emphasizing your strengths.

Like Str8 said in another post, the guys without good looks will tend to downplay looks, the guys with weenie physiques will downplay muscle, and the guys without much money will downplay income.

You can have success with women without some factors, but they will limit the range of women you can attract. Some strong factors will trump weaker ones...like a guy with incredible status and financial achievement but without noticeable looks.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<This Just In---This Just In>>>>>>>>>>>>>

A late breaking news report just came into channel WVUN. Let's go to our "roaming" internet reporter Mr. Breaker to see what's going on:


Mr. Breaker:

"Well viewers, right now I'm standing her at the Headquarters of SoSuave where an impromptu interevention is now in progress. It would appear that one of the board's most respected and prolific members is threatening to, "gasp", step away from posting for awhile----and perhaps even LEAVE the board for good!

Now as the story stands so far, the surprising supposed exit has become less about said member's personal preference, and more about the remaining members splitting into factions over the ideals that said member espouses-----with each side now yelling this mantra at the top of their lungs----

-----WAR!!!!!!

And it is because of this latest development that we've brought on an expert in terminology to explain the meaning behind the word "War". Professor Know-it-all, what's your take on today's events?"


Professor Know-it-all:

"Well, first of all, it never ceases to amaze me just how IMPORTANT Internet Life is for many people. But back onto the subject, yes, let's talk about War. It's a little known fact that the word "WAR" is really an anacronym.

W.A.R., actually stands for--------We Are Right!

And unfortunately, unless the two warring Sosuave factions can reach some sort of agreement to live up to their titles as "Mature Men" and remain civil in the face of Alternative View Points, then they could wind up sharing the same fate as that last guy who found out that he couldn't quite peacefully co-exist with people who disagreed with some of his, shall we say, "peculiar" viewpoints."


Mr. Breaker:

"Really, so this has happened before? Who was he?"


Professor Know-it-all:

"Well, even though he's now locked up in an asylum for the clinically insane, I'm STILL afraid to say his name. But, somehow, he's already heard about what's going on over here at SoSuave, and I've been told that it made him laugh so hard that he wanted me to give the SoSuavers THIS-------in some kind of weird, awkard attempt to offer help."


Mr. Breaker:

"What is it?"



Professor know-it-all:

"It's a picture postcard that he sent from his jail cell. And if you look closely, you'll also see where he took the time to write on it, to personalize it-------JUST for the Mature Men at SOSUAVE.

But it's strange though. Because I still don't know if it's a question, a comment, or what the hell it is.

Here, you take a look at it."







The Picture Postcard.

Colossus said:

I think wealth, status, and power are HUGE advantages in attracting women. But so are good looks, a strong muscular physique, and sharp wit.

The attraction game is not only personally subjective but multi-factorial. The best way to maximize your attraction factor is to develop as many facets as you can, while emphasizing your strengths.

Like Str8 said in another post, the guys without good looks will tend to downplay looks, the guys with weenie physiques will downplay muscle, and the guys without much money will downplay income.

You can have success with women without some factors, but they will limit the range of women you can attract. Some strong factors will trump weaker ones...like a guy with incredible status and financial achievement but without noticeable looks.

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Excellent post.

Too many guys get caught up in the game of downplaying the various factors that women find attractive and trying to overcompensate for their weaknesses rather than improving upon them.

I had written a few more paragraphs about this but I cut them out. It was some pretty juicy info, and I think it might be a good starting point to set the tone for a blog, should I decide to go that route.

I, for one, click and check every str8up post every time I visit sosuave. As for the haters- they will always be there, regardless of where you go.

You can't swim against the current and expect there to be no resistance.

Hey Str8up, while I think you do take some flak for your ideas, I think you are more respected and valued here than you might think. Really there's only about two maybe three posters that act as nemesis to what you post. But look at it this way, if you leave here to blog with a group that only agrees with you, you'll just be preaching to a choir and engaging in group think with no one to really test your views. While that might be the more pleasant to do, it's not really that worthwhile. Also you have to consider that a little dissent sharpens and strengthens your views. It's like having a peer review. You have to reflect on your views and defend them. If they're valid, that will only strengthen them.

STR8UP said:

I have an issue with guys who refuse to acknowledge the toxic nature of the culture we live in.

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You people on this board are simply amazing. You acknowledge that American culture is a toxic environment and yet you have posts about getting away with cheating on your girlfriends!

Seriously, how obvious does it have to be that by doing the same sh!t women do you're NOT coming out ahead: you are helping to keep the toxic environment alive! Lying, cheating, manipulation etc are all just feeding the big black pit of bile. The more people who cheat and manipulate the more cheaters and manipulators will be created. People will look around themselves and say "hey, everyone else is getting away with it, why shouldn't I do it too?" These people are creating the engines of their own misery.

Ethics were not invented to make us miserable, they were invented to make us happy. There was another thread in which I said "we've all be taught the wrong morals". Post-modern fvcktards have convinced the Western world that morals are there to hold us back and make us miserable. How quickly has the West forgotten that Aristotle taught us that the purpose of ethics was to help us recognize and achieve 'the good life'.

"Vir" means "man" and Virtue means "manliness". Look it up I'm not kidding. We have been so brainwashed that now virtue is feminine!

The current toxic culture will NEVER be broken until people refuse to participate in it. What's more important to you: blowing your load in a hot girl, or living in a world where you can trust the people around you have have real humane relationships with them? From where I sit, the way the culture is right now these are the two choices we have.

Those of you who are participating in the toxic culture are doing so because you are afraid that you won't get any azz and you're afraid you're going to be alone.

Suck it up people, the world won't become a better place until the men of the West reassert their control and force it to be a better place. Obviously women can't do it, they've made such a mess of things as it is. We won't get to that better world until a large majority of men are willing to BE ALONE rather than feed the destructive culture of women.

Here are the choices we all have:

1.) Continue feeding the toxic culture and face a future this guy describes.

OR

2.) Use our masculine dominance and work to assert a better world at the risk of ending up alone.

Women aren't going to get better until we create a world where the toxic culture is punished.

STR8UP said:

Rogue- You're right. But I'm not here to win popularity contests so I'm not going to sugar coat anything. The problem we have is that the message is SO much of a threat to what people hold dear, that even writing style can only go so far.

Take roissy. That dude can write. That's part of his appeal. But it still doesn't make people take off their blinders.

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As a fellow atheist, think about the battle religion wages with atheism. There will always be "true believers" who are impossible to get through but there is a middle ground of fence-sitters who can be persuaded to change their convictions. In the opening remarks of The God Delusion, Dawkins makes clear he wrote the book for those in the middle ground. The same principle holds true on this forum. The middle ground listens and can be swayed over time but they need more than your anecdotal experiences (which are scientifically inconsequential). They need empirical science to extrapolate your experiences to larger anthropological themes. In the end, you contributed to your own imploded demise by not doing the legwork which consequentially created more work than necessary. The "true believers" are more likely to speak and speak louder but that doesn't mean the middle ground isn't listening.

"I have been a member of THIS forum well before you KX."

B.F.D...Big Fvcking Deal.

Seniority arguments are retarded just about anywhere but on online forums especially as for all you know I could be anyone on a new account name from Pook to Rollo himself as NLG has put forward before!

"I dont know what gives you authority over who visits this site or not."

Brah I wasn't implying I had authority I was giving you a well reasoned suggestion, you just took it to another level because deep down your subconscious views me as an authority figure.

Also you NLGers are clearly not happy here which is why you created NLG in the first place so why come back here and suffer? You guys left this place for a reason. Stay gone for that reason.

"Actually, SEVERAL members that frequent both sites have been at SS quite a bit longer."

Come on man striving for the Golden Shortbus Award is not your speed...

Last time: SENIORITY ARGUMENTS ARE RETARDED IN AN ONLINE MEDIUM!

"Really there's only about two maybe three posters that act as nemesis to what you post."

I enjoy Jophil's counter banter to Rollo and Str8up but the rest of the NLG simpletons and morality crew knobs just waste Str8up's and the rest of our time. Jophil I think understands what Rollo and Str8up has to say, he just doesn't agree with it whereas the NLG kids simply do not understand where Str8up or Rollo are coming from half the time...hence their wasting of all of our time with their questions and challenges to Str8up that slow down his threads and usually allow iqqi a window of opportunity to stick her snout in and interject some ignorance that we'd all be better off not reading.

"But look at it this way, if you leave here to blog with a group that only agrees with you, you'll just be preaching to a choir and engaging in group think with no one to really test your views. While that might be the more pleasant to do, it's not really that worthwhile."

He's not looking for a group that agrees with him in the sense of his not wanting to be challenged, he is looking for a group of like minded individuals who all have a certain view of the world and thereby he and those individuals can then debate and discuss certain findings of theirs.

Like for instance now he can't do that effectively as the morality crew and NLG knobs don't see the world the same as Str8up, he can't have a conversation with them on equal ground because they view the world much differently than he.

He can't explore the issues he wants to with them because they don't understand or they do understand but want to deny the reality of things.

Str8up wants to talk and discuss with people once again who views the world and women in it as he does and going from that point agreement or disagreement on certain concepts is fine and is exactly what he is looking for to broaden his knowledge base on broad's behavior.

"Women aren't going to get better until we create a world where the toxic culture is punished."

The toxic culture doesn't need to be punished to create better women rather what needs to happen is for the current government to be overthrown in a new violent and bloody revolution then once the head of that snake is cut off true change can occur.

Then the new government and media can start promoting traditional values as being cool and awesome and even trendy and before you know it there will be less garbage women and less weak pvssified men and more people worth a damn again.

Not because humans are inherintely good but because they will be conditioned in a healthy way once again that has almost always proven to create a highly stable and peaceful productive society.

So punishment of the bad culture isn't necessary so much as a shaming of it and its greed and covetousness and a promotion of traditional values as being the in thing and the thing which gets men and women the praise they need to feed their egos and feel worthwhile.

To conclude though guys on Sosuave and even that NLG retard bin need to stop talking about how we members on our little forums should go about changing the world and women by our behavior towards them.

We are but a drop in the bucket and our efforts do not mean a damned thing in the larger picture.

Don't believe the crap about the one person can change the world thing either as it was never one person they always had help from Martin Luther King to Ghandi to Adolf Hitler to comrade Stalin to Barack Obama there was always a network behind them helping their dreams become a reality.

They did not do what they did alone.

The smartest thing for guys on Sosuave to do is learn to best exist and even thrive in the current toxic culture we all live in.

Don't try and teach women any moral lessons or bother yourselves with living morally because no matter what you will not teach or change women as a whole even if you do manage to make one woman sorry for her actions and the way that she's lived her life "making her better for the next man" as the retarded saying goes here.

Who gives a sh!t if she's better for the next man if she was a cvnt to you?

Worry about yourself and what you are getting out of a situation.

Fvck everybody else.

You will not change the world by getting through to one b!tch.

Wake up already.

Kontroller, tell everyone the real reason why you hate NLG with a passion.

Be honest.

ThunderMaverick said:

Kontroller, tell everyone the real reason why you hate NLG with a passion.

Be honest.

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Still dating that psycho borderline thinking she loves you chump boy?

Be honest.

Cliff notes:

-Fingz PM's me on NLG and asked "Hey Kontroller do you want to be a moderator here and help get this place going others have recommended you so I thought I'd ask? I'll be waiting for your answer and if you agree I should make you one sometime tonight".

-I answer "sure anything to help out dude".

Note: I was feeling really optimistic about NLG at the time and wanted to see it succeed but was also feeling unwary about all the banned people and trolls fingz was bringing in that were removed from Sosuave for good reason. I also got an uneasy sickness about fingz's friendship with iqqi but because KarmaSutra and I were both friends with fingz's I decided to trust Karma's judgement of fingz's above my own (which was a mistake) and decided to put past hostilities with iqqi behind me and become a productive part of fingz's site we had joined to get away from Sosuave's 10 post rule.

*Later that night rolls around I see fingz has put up a moderator nomination thread, no big deal I think, he's changed his mind and wants people to be voted in*

*Immediately as soon as the thread is put up people start voting for me publically left and right, then of course iqqi arrives and starts sh!tting all over me unprovoked, I make some kind posts towards her to let her know that the Sosuave hostility between us is water under the bridge, I even tell her that if fingz were to go through with his promise to make me a moderator I would have no power over her account or any say in what happens to her on NLG whatsoever*

*Despite all this the b!tch keeps running her mouth and screaming and crying about thinking I'm going to track her IP address and stalk her ugly ass*

I make all kinds of concessions basically kissing the cvnt's ass.

Sugarcoating EVERYTHING.

Then what does the retard fingz do?

He comes into the thread proving it was a setup of me between him and his pal iqqi all along, he says because I reacted so strongly to iqqi that means I don't have what it takes to be a mod, then all his banned buddies magically show up, then a negative nay tally is added to the names that are being voted for as moderator and fingz, iqqi, fake accounts and their friends start nay voting on me showing me that the whole thing was just a scam to publically humiliate me from the start. Fingz had no intention of letting there be water under the bridge and he and iqqi planned this sh!t out together probably over instant messenger programs in between sending eachother photos of their vaginas.

The "strong reaction" to iqqi was basically the same moderator talk Rollo has given in this thread, nothing offensive or out of line.

Bottom line: fingz= a piece of sh!t, iqqi= a piece of sh!t and ThunderMaverick= a douchebag.

Another reason to hate NLG is the big shaming they did of the poster reset over there with MacAvoy leading the ridiculous charge and fingz taking his sweet time to shut down that negative unproductive garbage. What a joke of an admin. Fingz enjoys this sort of sh!t. Fingz enjoys and gets off on humiliating others. Thats why he's got fake accounts on Sosuave where he insults young users and justifies it as "tough love" Fvcking idiot.

So the bottom line is they wanted to make a shaming thing of "Kontroller hates NLG because he didn't get to become a mod" when no its really "Kontroller hates NLG because not only did fingz lie to him and is a lying piece of sh!t but also the entire request was simply a setup to allow fingz's buddy iqqi to get some jabs in and for fingz to laugh his ass off in the background pretending to be the unassuming good guy and appearing that way to the public that didn't get to see the whole story play out".

I'm happy to report I'm not.

Oh, and actually Fingz never promised you anything: http://nextlevelgame.net/showthread.php?t=280&page=8

His PM to you was:

Fingz said:

So apparently you are a top candidate for mod.

I thought I'd ask if you were even interested?

Let me know!

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Your butthurt because you didn't get picked for a mod. You didn't get picked for a very good reason; You just wouldn't shut up. Iqqi had issues with you for very good reasons and now everyone here can go to that thread and see why. Don't just start making up crap as you go along. Point is, is that you had a superiority complex (much like STR8UP) and when people didn't go for it you make it your life's mission to trash anyone with a dissenting voice. Whatever man. It's your happiness. Your anger has nothing to do with us. You need therapy.

Colossus said:

I think wealth, status, and power are HUGE advantages in attracting women. But so are good looks, a strong muscular physique, and sharp wit.

The attraction game is not only personally subjective but multi-factorial. The best way to maximize your attraction factor is to develop as many facets as you can, while emphasizing your strengths.

Like Str8 said in another post, the guys without good looks will tend to downplay looks, the guys with weenie physiques will downplay muscle, and the guys without much money will downplay income.noticeable looks.

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You make good sense in an otherwise pointless thread.

I can predict how this thread will end up.
STR*up will get all the strokes, attention and sympathy that he is seeking and will finally 'reluctantly agree' to remain on the forum at the pleading of his fan club right about post 6999.

Geez, and you all thought that IQQI was an attention seeker.

SRT*uP - stay or go, but for gawd's sake do so like a man . IF you stay, then get a grip on the fact that you got to be prepared to take some hits. You are the first one to rant and attack others, but you whine and baitch and threaten to leave the jungle when you take a little small arms fire .You want be shipped home ? NO problem with me.

That wasn't his PM Thunderdouche.

I posted his PM just now.

You go on though and laugh it up believing your butt buddies side of things.

I'll have the last laugh once that sh!tty NLG becomes just another 404 error and dead webpage.

P.S: Say hi to your borderline girlfriend for me kiddo. :rock:

How many c0cks that weren't yours has she sucked since the last time we spoke?

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That wasn't his PM Thunderdouche.

I posted his PM just now.

You go on though and laugh it up believing your butt buddies side of things.

I'll have the last laugh once that sh!tty NLG becomes just another 404 error and dead webpage.

P.S: Say hi to your borderline girlfriend for me kiddo. :rock:

How many c0cks that weren't yours has she sucked since the last time we spoke?

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For a guy who's self enlightened you really do a horrible job of insulting people. C0ck jokes? As I said your anger is from you thinking that people see you as invalid. (As seen with people voting against you - for very good reasons). You hope to see NLG fail because you aren't apart of it anymore. It was your choice to leave after you got you ego busted open.

Again here's the PM Fingz sent you:

Fingz said:

So apparently you are a top candidate for mod.

I thought I'd ask if you were even interested?

Let me know!

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He sent that to EVERYONE who was a mod candidate. You weren't special. i know you'd like to think you were but you weren't. Sorry.

"For a guy who's self enlightened you really do a horrible job of insulting people. C0ck jokes? As I said your anger is from you thinking people seeing you as invalid. (As seen with people thinking you wouldn't be a very good mod for good reasons)."

No you're dead wrong as usual.

My anger comes from when I put some trust in a person and good faith and they go and lie their ass off and screw me over just for sh!t's and giggles which is exactly what fingz did.

BTW, I'm not ashamed of that NLG mod thread being up, everyone that does want to know what went down should go read it and they'll get the real story assuming it hasn't been edited to hell and back by now.

"He sent that to EVERYONE who was a mod candidate. You weren't special. i know you'd like to think you were but you weren't. Sorry."

Again read over my last post douchebag.

He didn't send me what you posted.

He sent me exactly what I just copied and pasted from a wordpad record of his PM for all to see.

Whether you believe that or not is your business.

The fact of the matter is you NLG knobs know criticism of your site is highly valid due to what you all did to reset, the way you constantly b!tch about Sosuave and derail Str8up's threads over here and call Rollo's wife ugly and many other ridiculous unproductive things you worthless idiots engage in.

This whole attempting to shame me with this "he's just butthurt about not becoming a mod" nonsense is merely an attempt to silence criticism of your shoddy site and the awful way that it is run.

I mean the proof of how bad it is, is all of you returning here and ruining great threads that actual productive posters like Str8up make.

Why don't you all return to NLG and put in some actual work and make it worth remaining on?

Trolling Str8up, trolling me and trolling Sosuave is not going to make your site any better.