Grow Up! A declaration for discipline

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Before you read this, I want to warn you that it may not be pleasant to hear for those who are not interested in either a LTR or marriage, and if you take offense easily, I suggest that you DO NOT read this.

However for those who are willing to listen and take thought to what I say, I hope you read for the meaning and intent behind the words. I Hope my words speak encouragement and empowerment to you, that one day you can reap the benefits of developing into a Mature and Respected Man.

I've been hearing a lot of complaint lately that there aren't enough father figures to set an example...It's ashame... it's a god damn shame to tell you the truth, that your own father was not able to teach or set an example for you to become a Real Mature Man.

Maybe because he left you, or maybe your parents divorced because one of them had an affair... It's not your fault. It's not your fault.
But whatever it is, I hope that you understand that what THEY did made a difference in who YOU are, and what YOU do in your life can make a positive difference for the generations to come.

I see all you players out there. Trying to bang as many girls as you can without regard to the consequences. "Yea I fvcked this one chick last night" "she was aiiiite." "Yea i've banged over 15 chicks." "how many have you banged?" "yea it felt fvcking good."

Holy sh!t, you talk like it's an accomplishment or something, when all it is, is immaturity, selfishness, and a lack of understanding.

Can't you see what kind of example you are setting for this generation?

Can't you see what you are doing to the future generation? Our children's generation will never come to full maturity... Do you see? Absolute disregard to anyone else but yourselves.. Grow the Fvck up and start making a difference. Stand up and be the MAN... when the rest of the world is falling apart, YOU set the example...

"Who the hell are you Connect to tell me what to do?", "I live my life, you live yours, get off your moral high horse Connect and STFU" "You must be ****ting me..."

You're right, I can't tell you what to do, you choose your life, I choose mine. But let me tell you that I PRACTICE what I preach, and although I am NOT perfect, I can say that it I've stuck with my beliefs. I hasn't been easy. When my body is telling me to just HIT it...It's right there man... you're making out, your shirt is off, her blouse is fully exposed, she's giving it to you.

I've had many opportunities to bang girls who I knew were NOT RIGHT for me. I could have... And sometimes, when I am alone, I wish I had banged them... But I am glad that I didn't because I KNOW better. Loneliness, pain, and lust clouds judgment.

Where are the Men who understand? The Men that understand that they can be in control of their frame and still be able to sacrifice for the betterment of the whole of a relationship? Where are the Men who understand that love is NOT AFC (any disrespect and she's out the door), and that commitment takes hard work, but the bond built in that sweat and endurance is undoubtedly more valuable than any of the ONS or flings you'll have. Where is the man that understands that being Alone is a time to build character and it is OK, but not striving and making opportunities for yourself to find the right type of girl for you is NOT.


I say, make it habit to date girls..make it a habit to have fun with them (without leading them on), make it a habit to socialize, make it a habit to work on your life. And when you have TRULY become independent and you find that right type of girl (it's going to be hard for many to swallow, but yes preferably a virgin, because it shows character. That is not an absolute mind you) for you and spent enough time with her to understand who she really is, someone who you can connect with emotionally, intellectually, and physically, go go go go go go have sex with her! Have mind blowing sex with her...

Enjoy your pursuits fellow DJs.
Enrich your life and be happy.

-Connect


"I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline. There is something good in men that really yearns for discipline." -Vince Lombardi
 

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Self Discipline is really a tool for Liberation.

The un disciplined man is really a slave to his environment and his desires.

No man truly wants to be a slave.
Men inherently desire Freedom, not captivity.



It's when we are not disciplined we will experience the discord and instability and the stronger peaks and valleys. Because we lack consistency.

Consistent results can only come from consistent Practice.


Anything you want to get good at takes consistent practice.
The desire to practice a skill to become better will make you self disciplined.
Because if you truly value that skill or goal ,you will do what you have to to achieve it.
It is true that one of the best ways to teach and lead is by Example.

However, many men do not wish to take on that responsibility.

many men do not feel as strong or confident or as empowered as they wish they could be.
So they usually try to escape the situation. Or try to sabotage it.


But self discipline is the tool that will help you achieve what you want.
Because if you believe in your true worth and value, you will do what is needed to make the lifestyle you want for yourself.

The path to High Character is the path for the realization for modern man.

Life is simply too difficult to not have clear goals, ethics, Values and the integrity to hold on to those in challenging circumstances.

If one has self esteem, one will see the value in caring and nurturing and mentoring oneself.

They will see the benefits of staying on course and staying self directed, no matter how hard it gets...
 

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Interceptor said:
Self Discipline is really a tool for Liberation.

The un disciplined man is really a slave to his environment and his desires.

No man truly wants to be a slave.
Men inherently desire Freedom, not captivity.
Freedom. The word I had decided to just repeat to myself over and over. That's what I'm after, personally. Freedom from others and freedom my own limitations (self-imposed).

I saw self discipline as doing things I didn't want to do, but that's not it. Self-discipline must be the act of learning to trust yourself. Trusting yourself to free yourself. Without it you're kind of saying "I have no power, let all the bad stuff keep happening around me".
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Self Mastery is the path to creating the Life we want to live, instead of being a spectator or victim of circumstance.

Self Mastery can only exist in someone who is disciplined.
Discipline is a trait that is recognized in those who have decided to cut the bullsh*t and apply themselves to their Mission in life.
 

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Interceptor said:
Discipline is a trait that is recognized in those who have decided to cut the bullsh*t and apply themselves to their Mission in life.
FVCK!!!

Goddamn.

:box:

Dammit. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

A or B, no C.

fcuk.
 

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I'm sorry but I am young and cant comrehend what you mean....I dont feel ashamed to say that because hell I am trying to better myself and a good way to better yourself is to ask questions.

So to master yourself is to make a life that YOU WANT....is that what you mean? To do the things that you LOVE and you want to do in your life and not to conform to society? The example you used was sex and how most people think that having sex with lots of women makes them a man......I have sex a lot but I know it doesnt make me a man but like someone said ....."You practice something to become good at it," I have sex when the occasion arises because I want to get good at sex for when I meet that perfect person I would like to make her feel good about herself and thank her for giving herself to me.

Self Mastery....making the life you want without consequence.....is that what you mean? I would really like to learn more about this, I think it would help me if I learn this at a younger age then to live in ignorance.
 

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Liberty for all. Freedom for those who choose it.
Liberty is physical, we have strong laws in place to protect freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, for example. Freedom is more associated with the great battle within.


There are two kinds of love. One is a verb, and one is an emotion/feeling. Logically, the emotion should be able to create the verb


Interceptor. How does the "just let it go" stuff fit in with this? I can't make the leap.
 

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j0n024 said:
I'm sorry but I am young and cant comrehend what you mean....I dont feel ashamed to say that because hell I am trying to better myself and a good way to better yourself is to ask questions.

So to master yourself is to make a life that YOU WANT....is that what you mean? To do the things that you LOVE and you want to do in your life and not to conform to society? The example you used was sex and how most people think that having sex with lots of women makes them a man......I have sex a lot but I know it doesnt make me a man but like someone said ....."You practice something to become good at it," I have sex when the occasion arises because I want to get good at sex for when I meet that perfect person I would like to make her feel good about herself and thank her for giving herself to me.

Self Mastery....making the life you want without consequence.....is that what you mean? I would really like to learn more about this, I think it would help me if I learn this at a younger age then to live in ignorance.

The unconscious mind can be very powerful.
However, the unconscious partof the mind HAS NO REASONING.
It simply acts on instinct, on whatever Program you have installed in it.
To live life in ignorance is to live life as a mindless lifeless drone.
You are throwing away the opportunities presented to you.

A life without Intent is a Life WASTED...


When you 'check out' and 'sleepwalk' through life, you are DISCONNECTED from the Present Moment.
And the Present Moment is ALL you really 'have'.

If you are Present then, you have full control of ALL your faculites, and can Experience life in as deep a level as you need to .So that you can make proper assessments and make practical decisions, rather than function in a 'mindless' state in the world.

if you can make those decisions, you gain CONTROL over you LIFE.

If you gain control over your life, you can make intelligent aware decisions on WHAT YOU WANT IN YOUR LIFE.

Instead of looking at other people and trying to compare yourself to hem, and trying to have what they have, you discover who YOU really are and what YOU really want in your life. And you bein to Live your OWN LIFE.

You decide that you WANT certain things in your life, and now, with raised awareness, start the Mission to create those things in life that you DO want.


Your external circumstances no longer have such a strong and adverse effect on you.
Whatever comes your way, you know you can DEAL with it.

Self Mastery is about understanding the potential of the human mind, body, and spirit. And developing them as best and as fully as possible.
To Uncover the deepest self, and grow.
Self Mastery is to not let base, animal like drives control us.
To transcend the baseness, and achieve a higher state of awareness.


The Life that we want is a product of Self Mastery.
Self Mastery and High Character are two of the most important subjects a man must pursue.
They will enable the man to transcend much of the difficulties most people experience.
You will find that you create an Environment that you are a Master of.
You consciously Allow or disallow people entering it. If they displease you, you will have the strength and awareness to not let them in

You will only allow that which pleases you, and enhances your life.

And if you have to walk away from something , you do it our of strength.
You consistently evaluate your situations and positions, and make choices with the strength that you can back it up ,and follow through.

You begin to trust yourself. You can count on your self.
You beging the journey to Independence and Self Reliance.

And you begin to become aware of the gifts that ARE in your life.

Self Mastery is the understanding that what is now can actally be better..
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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sam3083 said:
Liberty is physical, we have strong laws in place to protect freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, for example. Freedom is more associated with the great battle within.






Interceptor. How does the "just let it go" stuff fit in with this? I can't make the leap.



To let go means that you no longer place the expectation or the control over that object.

The EGO wants to OWN things.


The inner self knows that it doesnt NEED to own , it already HAS everything it needs.


Your Ego is what wants to possess things. To not let them go.
To covet things.

Because it is fragile. It needs constant validation and reassurance. So it tries to SECURE things for its survival.
When you are a slave to your ego you will never find tru happiness and fulfillment. You will always be TOO emotionally attached to everything, even things that are not that all important.

This comes from what is called a Scarcity Mindset.
In which you feel that everything is scarce, and you must aggressively seek to possess all these resources before they run out completely.
It is irrational.

The world seems to work that way.

But it really doesnt.

To let go is to accept that life is constantly changing and flowing.

And that whatever you have now, you will always have.

Whatever leaves you, will return again to you.
So you will never really 'lose', say for example, Love.

You are Loved.
You just need to see it and recognize it.
You must recognize yourSELF and Love who you are first.
Then you will begin to realize what a vast resource you have. It NEVER will RUN OUT. It is critical to understand this.
Love never dies or runs out.
It may change and manifest differently. But it is always there for you.
You just need to see it.

It's life standing next to a fresh water lake, and believing there is no water and you will die from thirst.

So people try to "FILL" this void that most of us have with mateial possessions, or try to become UNCONSCIOUS so that we will not FEEL ANYTHING.

We try to check out. Becaseu we dont want to live in a world that doesnt have compassion, acceptance, understanding, and Love.
And all resources we want.

It is SOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo critically important to realy really get down deep inside yourself and investigate your Beliefs about Life.

You must go on that journey.
Sometimes it is NOT Pretty.

But there ARE methods that can help you.

And perhaps the most obvious place to start is the understanding of the Higher Consciousness that you have, that you must manifest and realize.

You must ask yourself what you think about things like God, the Universe, religions, spirituality, love, karma, destiny, and your connection to those things.
You need to let go of any superstitions.
And get to a very clear perspective about yourself, what you want, and how you can achieve those things you want, and how Life REALLY is, not the pre packaged Bullsh*t that much of society beats into your brain.

Society was never designed to create your highest self realization. To achieve your spiritual destiny.
It is designed for people to not make waves and not bother each other too muhc. To keep people in line. AN dnot live in a animal chaos environment.

It is up to each one of us to ask ourselves the hard questions. To even question our own Skepticism.

WHO is making the decisions for you?

WHO is doing your 'thinking'?

can you observe things , situations, people, without JUDGING them and condemning them?

Do you realzie that everything is in flux, and there is no such thing as stability??
Can you handle living in uncertainty and instability? Where YOU must CREATE your OWN 'security"????
You are responsible for your OWN Life. No one else.
The decisions you make must be made on true data , not superstition, fals, self limiting beliefs, programming, and yes....shame from people around you ,even people you love?

Yes, you must even question people you love.
Not out of fear, trepidation, mistrust....but because ultimately it is YOUR life.


What kind of life wil you have when they are gone?

Do you want to be forced into pleasing someone else's image and expectation of you????!!

Or are you going to have the COURAGE to dig deep and find our who YOU REALLY ARE? And what YOU REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT??!

Self Mastery is the mature progression once your conscious mind makes that realization......
You WILL get the 'fire in the belly'.
That is the green light that announces that your Inner Self has a REASON and PURPOSE in being here.

Whne you get goose bumps thinking about what your Dream Life will be like, and the hobbies, interests, and passions in life you want to experience more of THAT is your TRUE Deepest SELF talking.

You really really I mean really NEED to look at this.
It is real.
And it is totally outside of the typical persons day to day experience of Life as we have been taught since childhood.


Self Discipline is a Tool for Liberation.
YOu will want to be Free once you realized the alternative life you could be living.
Stop living life as a zombie.
Take back control.
Become AWARE.
Become intimate with your deepest self. All those repressed experiences and emotions, and thoughts and beliefs....
yes....those too..
You know what Im talking about
They are the things that are holding you DOWN.

But you are SUPPOSED to transcend those, and live a good life free of those things.
They dont tell you that in school.
NO one addresses the things that are considered taboo or too 'woo woo' new agey. YOU have to be the one, to break rank from the matrix masses...


And for some...


It is scary as Hell.


But you must truly SEE the Alternative.
Once you have made the realizaton, you can never go back to living life 'checked out' and a slave to feeding and validating your Ego.

Your EGO will KILL you to survive.
Much of what we DO today and every day is to presereve the EGO, NOT Live life fully satisfied, happy, fulfilled, with passion and purpose.
Your DESTINY has ALWAYS been to live your life with intent and purpose and joy and happiness.


It was NEVER anything but....
Life was NEVER about "SUFFERING". Or 'paying your dues' in the way WE made it out to be.

But you must make that Bold leap, into the 'abyss', Because yes, we are familiar with the Matrix, and we are familiar with our OLD 'selves'...

...but outside of that is UNCHARTED TERRITORY.

the bold New World.

That bold new world is YOURS.
You just have to start the path to it.......
 

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I'm in.

First step is to stop trying to control other people or expect them to do jack shyt, to allow them to be what they are, even if that means they want what I have. To stop holding onto what I have so much, because it's not what I want.

Why do we hold on tight to what we DON'T want? It's insane. Because we think, we'll lose it. But if it's something that isn't what we truly want, are we losing anything? No.
 

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I like your post.

Responsibility and respect to others is an extension of responsibility and respect to myself.
 

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Interceptor said:
You WILL get the 'fire in the belly'.
That is the green light that announces that your Inner Self has a REASON and PURPOSE in being here.

Whne you get goose bumps thinking about what your Dream Life will be like, and the hobbies, interests, and passions in life you want to experience more of THAT is your TRUE Deepest SELF talking.

You really really I mean really NEED to look at this.
It is real.
And it is totally outside of the typical persons day to day experience of Life as we have been taught since childhood.
Many people grow up believing that those very things, are beyond them, wishful thinking, that they are kids dreams. I have battled this. I focus on a career that I kind of like, yet the thing that gives ME those goosebumps, when I get super-excited, is what society would say is unlikely. But that's passion, you just have to follow it. I've wasted years denying my dreams because I didn't believe they were practical.
 

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Interceptor's post is absolute gold. THAT is what it is really all about.
 

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Ripper said:
Interceptor's post is absolute gold. THAT is what it is really all about.
Yeah. bump.

I'm in the uncharted territory he speaks of.

The ego tried to kill me to survive. Can't take anymore of that.
 
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Many people grow up believing that those very things, are beyond them, wishful thinking, that they are kids dreams. I have battled this. I focus on a career that I kind of like, yet the thing that gives ME those goosebumps, when I get super-excited, is what society would say is unlikely. But that's passion, you just have to follow it. I've wasted years denying my dreams because I didn't believe they were practical.
Reset I know exactly how you feel. I have always had my dream so clearly laid out in front of me, yet its one of those things "i could never do" "go for plan b" etc. Luckily im still young, and have come to realize alot of the things which interceptor speaks of on my own. We must follow our passions in life, and create our own purposes.

P.S. interceptor, do you read Nietzsche? Some of the things you say are very similar to Zarathustra :up:
 

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canadianmetalhead said:
Reset I know exactly how you feel. I have always had my dream so clearly laid out in front of me, yet its one of those things "i could never do" "go for plan b" etc. Luckily im still young, and have come to realize alot of the things which interceptor speaks of on my own. We must follow our passions in life, and create our own purposes.

P.S. interceptor, do you read Nietzsche? Some of the things you say are very similar to Zarathustra :up:
CMH,
no I have never read Nietzsche or Zarathustra, but I will look it up if you feel it is beneficial.
Thanks.
 

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I'm in.

First step is to stop trying to control other people or expect them to do jack shyt, to allow them to be what they are, even if that means they want what I have. To stop holding onto what I have so much, because it's not what I want.

Why do we hold on tight to what we DON'T want? It's insane. Because we think, we'll lose it. But if it's something that isn't what we truly want, are we losing anything? No.
It is in Buddhist teaching that everything in life is an illusion. Everything. You, me, anything that we possess are all illusions. We come to this world with nothing and we will leave this world with nothing. What matters is that we live our life with a purpose and that is to simply live our life to our potentials, so long as we make a conscious effort to not hurt others in the process.

Society has a sick way of messing us up with their chaotic mind manipulations. You need to have this to be happy. You have to have that to be so and so... It's like we're placed in a pot of boiling water, we're enjoying the warm bath but we're slowly cooked alive. Except, in life, we do have a choice and that is to simply walk away.

nice post.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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