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shyguyarrgh
04-22-2006, 01:50 PM
I know from how the endrocine system works that when a man masturbates, it purges lots of testosterone from the body, and releases feel good endorphines in the brain. The endorphines are like a drug, and addiction can occour. Besides that, the loss in testosterone grealty effects your confidence and self esteem when its levels drop so drastically. So, the next time you want to pet the one eyed snake, keep yourself from it. The more you refrain from doing so, the easier it will get. The more testosterone you have, the more masculine, strong, and confident you will feel! See how many days, weeks, months you can go!

Not looking at pornography also can help you keep your testosterone levels up.

For people who are sexually active, if you do this, your sex life will be better.

GuitarOnFire
04-22-2006, 02:35 PM
Erm, doesn't watching pornography raise testosterone levels?

shyguyarrgh
04-22-2006, 02:48 PM
Yes, but that sudden spike in testosterone is likely to make your urge to jack off even stronger.

OrioleMagic
04-22-2006, 05:10 PM
Do you put a lock on your d!ck or something? lol

BBX
04-22-2006, 05:20 PM
Wow. thers a post like this thats like the longest in this sites history i think. The thing is, only jack off when like its built up and it has to go like where your getting a boner every second. If you do it when its not built up, you notice things the next day, like your voice being powerless

shiningshadow
04-22-2006, 05:58 PM
No it doesn't. If you behave radically different after whacking it, it's a placebo effect.

NthDegree
04-22-2006, 06:25 PM
Pornos don't seem to make me want to whack off so much, only real women nearby or walking past an HB 7+ with revealing clothes gives me that feeling.

Bible_Belt
04-22-2006, 06:35 PM
Do you put a lock on your d!ck or something? lol

They actually make just such a thing:
http://www.tickleberry.co.uk/pages/ksd-g2.html

You can't return them, but they do offer customer support.

Male Chastity Devices once worn cannot be sterilized and therefore no returns are possible on these devices. However, we will do our best to support your use of these MCDs.

Macgyver
04-22-2006, 06:55 PM
If you're in your teens, limit your jackoffs to 3 times a week if you're single. If you're in your 20s, I would say 2 times a week, and 30s and onwards, once a week. You need to release once in awhile, if you don't your chances of prostate cancer goes up, infact there has been studies about the frequency of ejaculating and prostate cancer rates.

True, right after you blow your jizz, you become slightly weaker, and your testosterone has just took a hit and won't recooperate for awhile. But so what. You're telling me that guys who bang their girlfriends 2-3 times a day are effeminate and weak?

Eulogy
04-22-2006, 07:24 PM
What the fvck are you guys basing your claims on? Post at least ONE study that shows masturbation affects your T levels.

ianlove
04-22-2006, 07:26 PM
I know its easier said than done but imagine watching porn and NOT engaging in hand 2 gland combat.

If porn causes an increase in testosterone then watching porn without slaying the snake would probably be a good booster. But like i said, easier said than done and it would require quite a bit of determination and will power.

Now that takes a real man!! lol

Boschy
04-22-2006, 07:37 PM
This theory about not masturbating...where is the supporting literature for your claim? I've read a book about hormones, and the peaks and troughs of your testosterone levels throughout the day vary, depending on many factors.

It is true that your testosterone level drops sharply after orgasm, and it may remain low for a period of hours or days afterwards. But do not confuse semen (fluid mixed with sperm) with the chemical hormone testosterone.

In behavioural terms for both genders, male and female, testosterone makes you sexually aggressive (go out looking for partners), makes you want an orgasmic release, makes you competitive, and it also, paradoxically, promotes the desire to be alone.

On the other hand, the female hormone estrogen makes you sexually receptive and gives you a 'glow' that appeals to members of the opposite (or same) sex who are out looking for it. See how the two behaviours complement each other?

Now, levels of both hormones are at their highest during our late teens and during our twenties. When we reach 30-35 (on average), levels drop off slowly. In women, their testosterone balance may then increase, making them more sexually aggressive and wanting orgasm. This is mistakenly what the referred to as their sexual peak. But it is nothing of the sort. They have simply shifted from being receptive to having babies with a long-term partner to behaving more like men. naturally, they still want babies during their 30s, because the clock is ticking, but sexually, most women become more aggressive. Women who lack sex drive, especially after having kids, are usually prescribed...yep you guessed it, testosterone therapy.

How does a DJ raise his testosterone levels? For both sexes, but generally men, the following works: regular exercise, winning a competative event, being successful (think corporate execs, rock stars, movie stars, etc), winning a fight, having a sexually attractive girlfriend, sexual stimulation, etc. These things may drop your levels: losing a fight, being unsuccessful in life, masturbation (a temporary drop!!!!), regular alcohol intake, obesity and poor eating habits.

While I enjoy reading DJ tips, I think each one of us should do even more groundwork to know the biological differences between the sexes. Hormones affect behaviour, that is a simple fact. Specifically, read up on the sex hormones (especially how a women's monthly cycles affect her behaviours and receptivity in public to advances) and you'll have some great knowledge about the 'big picture'.

shiningshadow
04-22-2006, 08:06 PM
There are so many lies in this thread it's unbelievable. What, we shouldn't have sex so we'll do better talking to the ladies? Orgasm/ejaculation does not affect behaviour, stop spreading this BS. It's all a placebo effect.

Freewheelin Frank
04-22-2006, 09:28 PM
How does a DJ raise his testosterone levels? For both sexes, but generally men, the following works: regular exercise, winning a competative event, being successful (think corporate execs, rock stars, movie stars, etc), winning a fight, having a sexually attractive girlfriend, sexual stimulation, etc. These things may drop your levels: losing a fight, being unsuccessful in life, masturbation (a temporary drop!!!!), regular alcohol intake, obesity and poor eating habits.


How can being materially succesful effect levels of a hormone in your body?

Teen Spirit
04-22-2006, 09:44 PM
I rate this thread 1 star.

backbreaker
04-22-2006, 10:51 PM
I am not going to down beating it, becaues I did for a while, but. I mean, to each his own. enough all ready.

do this. **** women, not your hand. everytime you get horny, go and talk to a woman.

It sound simple but that's the freakin problem right there

fuzilogic
04-22-2006, 10:58 PM
Hm I remember reading on t-nation that athletes usually have lower levels of testosterone than non athletic couch potatoes.

Macgyver
04-23-2006, 02:22 AM
That's because they use it up building muscles!

Cruise
04-23-2006, 02:35 AM
I jacked off... nwo i acn braely eevn tpye tihs siht correclty...

C-Damage
04-23-2006, 12:19 PM
i think actualy this is true. ive got no eveidence of that other than anecdotal but im sure im less likley to look people in the eye or talk in a confident tone at an audible volume if i spent the last few hours jacking off. It mite just be exaustion (tho i doubt it) but generaly when im done i have no inclination to talk to anyone...least of all sexy girls - who usualy are my favorite people to talk to. Saying that im generlay talking about whacking off multiple times in one sitting (generlay to internet porno - which is the worst for getting your hooked...cos its pretty much maximum payout for minimum effort)...but im sure im not the only person to do that. Try it yourself - i find that, even when im with my friends, i will be a whole lot quieter and consquently more boring if ive been whacking off all day. And theres not realy much chance of getting some action if you cant even be bothered to talk.

ALSO: GUNWITCH METHOD? Has everyone forgotten this? Best guide ever imho. proscribes just that - no jackin, regular exercise, good diet. That works...and is a lot less strange and stupid than trying to learn to hypnotise girls with inaine conversation you learned from a website. I mean christ - how do you think normal guys get girls? ALSO, as gunwitch points out in his guide - orgasm with a parnter will NOT socialy cripple you like jacking off will do - this mite be the physical exercise associated with orgasm from sex but id say its a combination of that and the fact that blowing your load all over a sexy girl should be much more satisfying and confidence building (if you dont know what im on about i suggest a little more first hand research).

Edit : I think your masterbatory appologists! :) By all means do it - but dont discount the chance that it mite not help you in social situations.

NthDegree
04-23-2006, 08:18 PM
Masturbation - if you can avoid it DONT DO IT!!!!

It can become an addiction like drugs if you do it too much, it's better to let all that energy build up to help get women easier.

And there are articles to suggest that masturbating DOES NOT lower testosterone levels but infact increases them (see here: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=815805)

There are also mixed opinions on this but I believe it does increase testosterone levels (the t level goes down at first then increases after "recovery") a bit like sexual exercise!

organizedconfusion
04-23-2006, 08:38 PM
i think that whacking off too much really spoils the desire to have sex and it takes the level down a notch when you do have sex...plus whacking off is nothing like sex itself, and is and always has been a poor substitute in my book..well, maybe not a poor substitute..it's like lite beer..or something like that..

Unregistered
04-23-2006, 10:42 PM
***DO NOT JACK OFF*****

I cannot stress this enough.

True story: I approach a honey who is, in the parlance of our times, "mad fly". We converse, and I quickly obtain her phone number amid much flirting and giggling. After 5 minutes, I expose myself and begin masturbating. She instantly exits, and later fails to return any of my 79 phone calls.

I can honestly say that masturbation killed my chances with that girl.

Boschy
04-24-2006, 01:13 AM
Masturbation - if you can avoid it DONT DO IT!!!!

It can become an addiction like drugs if you do it too much, it's better to let all that energy build up to help get women easier.

And there are articles to suggest that masturbating DOES NOT lower testosterone levels but infact increases them (see here: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=815805)

There are also mixed opinions on this but I believe it does increase testosterone levels (the t level goes down at first then increases after "recovery") a bit like sexual exercise!

There is a drop in testosterone immediately after orgasm, obviously. Like I said, that drop is temporary. Testosterone peaks in men every 30 minutes, with a large (tent) peak in the morning. Because this is medical information, the general patterns do not hold for all people. Let me repeat: the general patterns do not hold for all people.

Now, personally, I think abstaining from masturbation to boost one's sex appeal or keep your DJ mojo primed is stupid. If you have to rely on this gimmick to get anywhere, then you are sunk. Also, any doctor will tell you that masturbation is healthy, but like anything, it should be done in moderation. Abstain long enough and you'll be changing your sheets about once a week. Duh.

...And that's all I have to say about this topic. :crazy:

Alittude
04-24-2006, 07:12 AM
I have mixed thoughts on this. I have done both it ways. I have done it everyday in the week and also went about 2 weeks at a time without doing it.

Now they both have advantages and disadvantages.

Not doing it will get you bigger boners and harder more frequently and it would be good in bed for a little while but you orgasm much quicker.

Doing it will let you last longer with a chick in bed and also is reduces prostate cancer by 25%.

Do whatever suits you but don't go too long without it and don't do it too much.

Freewheelin Frank
04-24-2006, 01:54 PM
Now, personally, I think abstaining from masturbation to boost one's sex appeal or keep your DJ mojo primed is stupid. If you have to rely on this gimmick to get anywhere, then you are sunk.

I agree. Besides if jacking off really does cut down your libido enough so that you don't feel like going after chicks, then you don't have much of a libido lol.

Evan_M
04-25-2006, 12:05 AM
I think it depends on your age. When I was a teenager I could jack off and be ready to go another round 15 minutes later. Nowadays I feel lethargic and hungry after I stroke it.

Friendly Otter
04-26-2006, 04:13 AM
There's no biological effect (other than that slump immediately afterward), but there's a psychological one, I think. You'll feel that you can get relief without much effort, and that will make you a little less inclined to go out there and find a gal to boink. If there are already hindrances, like time and looking for wingmen, this may be the deciding factor.

Also, if you watch too much porn and eventually become blind to it - now that's an empty feeling you get then. Imagine that you see this great female body in the right position for such a body to be in, and it still doesn't make you aroused. That's when you know you need to stop jacking off so much.

Latinoman
04-26-2006, 07:06 AM
I know from how the endrocine system works that when a man masturbates, it purges lots of testosterone from the body, and releases feel good endorphines in the brain. The endorphines are like a drug, and addiction can occour. Besides that, the loss in testosterone grealty effects your confidence and self esteem when its levels drop so drastically. So, the next time you want to pet the one eyed snake, keep yourself from it. The more you refrain from doing so, the easier it will get. The more testosterone you have, the more masculine, strong, and confident you will feel! See how many days, weeks, months you can go!

Not looking at pornography also can help you keep your testosterone levels up.

For people who are sexually active, if you do this, your sex life will be better.

So, you are saying not to have sex either?

The way I personally look at it...this is like a pipe. It rust if you give it little use. Now, I'm not talking about masturbation. I'm talking about actual sex.

Why men look more "masculine" (but do they?) when they go months or years without having sex? Because they are pissed off and angry!

manbearpig
04-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Why men look more "masculine" (but do they?) when they go months or years without having sex? Because they are pissed off and angry!

I think thats the answer. Guys get more and more frustrated the longer they have to go without sex. I'm still a virgin, and alot of times I think my sexual frustration makes me more jumpy and aggressive than I would be otherwise. I guess that energy has to be expressed in some way and if you aren't screwing than you find other outlets.

avrilishot
04-28-2006, 12:15 AM
its probably true. Damn I love porn though. so many hotties.

Cruise
04-28-2006, 02:15 AM
its probably true. Damn I love porn though. so many hotties.


'tis very true.

piterx
05-07-2006, 09:46 AM
even thou this is not true exactly- too much masturbation -but i really mean too much- is a waste of time in life,everybody should have better things to do i think.

il_duce
05-07-2006, 10:55 AM
Don't do it. By whacking it to some chick, you are essentially putting her up on a pedestal every time you do it. Not to mention it drains you of your energy. Seriously, limit it to once a week, max. Any more than that, and it has an effect similar to smoking pot every day. It just makes you lazy and unmotivated.

Actually having sex on the other hand, gives you more energy, it doesn't drain you. So **** a girl, not yourself.

Don't believe me? Go over to the 21 day thread...I'm only on Day 5 and I can already notice the difference.

midnight
05-07-2006, 02:01 PM
I have a friend whose dad's doctor wrote on a prescription pad: regular masturbation to prevent prostate cancer. Releasing that **** is important...

Dante3214
05-07-2006, 03:36 PM
I have a friend whose dad's doctor wrote on a prescription pad: regular masturbation to prevent prostate cancer. Releasing that **** is important...

yeah, but not every damn day!


It's helped me SOOOOO MUCH.


I swear that my attitude and willpower have become stronger ever since I stopped.


And it isn't a placebo effect, trust me.

Zerotwoonenine
05-09-2006, 06:18 AM
nicely said, when i started jacking off i did find my testostrone purged, and i no longer to seek perfection and ambition, i became lazy and unfruitfull, and i did not want to do my schoolworks, etc. So listen to this guy, he is correct 100%.
You could pet the one eyed snake, just make sure that you dont ejaculate or get close to the point of ejaculation.

Matheau
05-09-2006, 07:32 AM
The idea that masturbation itself causes reduced libido, lack of sexual desire, or lack of performance is a myth, like masturbation will make you go blind or grow hair on your palms.

However, it can be obsession or an addiction, which is why it does reduce those things for some people, just the same as any other addiction does. It isn't that masturbation causes it, it is just that many addictions tend to cause a loss of libido, sexual desire, or performance.

Anecdotal evidence is meaningless. I don't have any interest in flirting with women right after I mow the lawn. That doesn't mean that mowing the lawn causes a lack of sexual desire on my part. It means I don't want to talk to women after I have been out in the sun a couple hours sweating, and I would rather take a shower and get something to eat instead.

Basically, if you are the type of person that really does need to go to at least some effort to stop masturbating or reduce it, then odds are you have some sort of obsession or addiction with it, which means you probably would be having these sorts of addiction effects, so it probably would be a good idea. If you are the type of person that can read this and just decide not to do it anymore and think nothing of it, then odds are you probably won't have the addiction effects in the first place.

MagnuM
05-12-2006, 04:56 PM
You sir...are the biggest idiot on this site. Go away.

Where the hell is all your evidence to back up your worthless claim? Get the data and come back and show us.

Cash
05-13-2006, 10:02 AM
Scenario: Jonny mastubates twice in one day, within a six hour timespan. The first time was very intense and equally enjoyable. But the second time was much less intense as it was enjoyable. He took longer to cúm, and when he did, it was less than when he did the first time.

This is a scenario to which we can all relate. But WHY was jonny's second time less intense/enjoyable? Was it a physical change, or was it all in little jonny's head (psychological)? Either way has a profound effect that fits a solidly consistant patten.

Could controlled/Intensified sexual energy give you that egde? I'm leaning towards yes.

Science complicates shít, self-analyse your own sexual temperament and how it plays out on your game.

il_duce
05-13-2006, 11:42 AM
Exactly. Go by how you feel. Science tells us that masturbating a lot is okay, but whenever I do it every day, it saps all of my energy. I'll go by my own experiences, not what somebody else tells me, thanks.

sharpshooter
05-13-2006, 02:53 PM
Slowing down masturbation is KEY. Too much of it sucks away your confidence, boldness and overall attraction. This is coming from a guy that has experience from masturbating and not masturbating. At times in my life i've masturbated several times daily, had streaks of jerking it once daily, and have had streaks of not jerking it for weeks. I've found that it's MUCH better overall, to just totally slow it down and quit if you can. Sure, you'll "feel" more relaxed, but at the same time you won't feel confident or bold. Plus where is your urge going to come from? Your mind? Your ego? What purpose would that serve? Once you start using your mind or ego for pickups etc, it all goes downhill. It's odd, but that's just how it is.

If you can learn how to embrace the horniness and aggression you get from NOT masturbating, you're already ahead of 90 percent of the male population.

Zerotwoonenine
05-14-2006, 01:06 PM
basically i hate doing it too much is because:
1.it takes time if you do it several times per week, generally i take around 30 mins per one session and take 3 sessions a week(but i am cutting down after reading your posts), apparently a guy in my six form did it too much and it takes him 2 hours per session!!
2.it really makes you lose you sex drive, i mean, now i dont even find the hottest women remotely attractive when i do it too much(no i am not gay)
3.It generally makes me feel down.

Reborn Don Juan
05-14-2006, 01:53 PM
i think actualy this is true. ive got no eveidence of that other than anecdotal but im sure im less likley to look people in the eye or talk in a confident tone at an audible volume if i spent the last few hours jacking off. It mite just be exaustion (tho i doubt it) but generaly when im done i have no inclination to talk to anyone...least of all sexy girls - who usualy are my favorite people to talk to. Saying that im generlay talking about whacking off multiple times in one sitting (generlay to internet porno - which is the worst for getting your hooked...cos its pretty much maximum payout for minimum effort)...but im sure im not the only person to do that. Try it yourself - i find that, even when im with my friends, i will be a whole lot quieter and consquently more boring if ive been whacking off all day. And theres not realy much chance of getting some action if you cant even be bothered to talk.

ALSO: GUNWITCH METHOD? Has everyone forgotten this? Best guide ever imho. proscribes just that - no jackin, regular exercise, good diet. That works...and is a lot less strange and stupid than trying to learn to hypnotise girls with inaine conversation you learned from a website. I mean christ - how do you think normal guys get girls? ALSO, as gunwitch points out in his guide - orgasm with a parnter will NOT socialy cripple you like jacking off will do - this mite be the physical exercise associated with orgasm from sex but id say its a combination of that and the fact that blowing your load all over a sexy girl should be much more satisfying and confidence building (if you dont know what im on about i suggest a little more first hand research).

Edit : I think your masterbatory appologists! :) By all means do it - but dont discount the chance that it mite not help you in social situations.

GUNWITCH METHOD or not, this is by far the most useful post in this thread.

JHeights83rd
05-14-2006, 05:05 PM
wow, you guys do it alot. Ok when you nut, thats 4 billion sperm, which it takes 36 hours to produce. So no wonder you feel like that after 2ce a day. But not doing it makes you carry around more semen. i never wacked off so I carry the most semen among the 18 yr old male population. My face gets red, i get it up, my heart rate goes up alot, everytime i talk to a girl. my friend who doesnt wack off, the same. Trust me, carrying more semen no = confidence, masculinity, aggression, maleness etc... It makes you wanna cop a feel more... makes you wanna grab her breast... desperate for affection... and wanna get in her pants more. its a big subconscious desire that you have, a strong desire which your conscious mind has to temper, or else youll rape that *****.

Think of it like a water faucet that has to drain. Only a certain amount of water will fit into the pipe at one time. When we (who dont wack off) turn the faucet on, we have to put a stopper on the faucet to cut the amount of water flowing at one time. Our water pressure is too high. If we just let the faucet go on with no interference, not only will she not be able to flow that excess of water (she follows your sexual interest in her) , the sink will over flow (you rape her, or you come off like a pervert) The sink overflowing, we are so scared of happening, so we have to keep using a stopper to limit the amount of water in the sink.

So not wacking off at all, you become more like us and you have to exert alot energy to control the aggression. Alot of you guys think 'well that aggression will help motivate you to get up and talk to a girl and get her to satisfy her' but it doesnt work like that, it doesnt craft itself into making your game stronger so you can f a girl. The best way to spit at a female is to forget about your ****, the moment you start to feed your ****, the female senses you wanna get in her pants and we know what happens when she senses that. So think of it this way, the more semen your **** holds, the more blind, subconscious desperation you have.

Charm
05-16-2006, 02:30 AM
JHeights83rd, I think you post a few sensible concepts but also overgeneralize the "too much semen turns you into a desperate lunatic" concept. That's far from the truth. Self-control is a skill that we must learn and self-mastery is a practice that should consist throughout our lifetime diligently.

it is a fact that abstaining from masturbation will increase testosterone and increase sexual drive. Will it make you act like an idiot? No. AFC tendencys will though.

Will you need to work at curbing your aggression? Yes. how can you do that? By learning how to be relaxed under pressure. Sports. Music. Chilling.

manbearpig
05-16-2006, 05:53 PM
I just don't buy this crap. Anyone have any scientific evidence to offer?

Masturbation is a biological issue(thats science), and I'm sorry but I'm not going to accept what a bunch of guys on a freakin' website say at face value.

Mission
05-16-2006, 06:33 PM
You guys want some scientific ****ing evidence, I took an oath with my buddy, well more of a wager, we are in competition to see who can go the longest without pleasing ourselves. I am already a week in, and I know that the only way I can win this competition and relieve myself in doing so, is by getting with girls. We are a week in, and I can already feel more confidence around women, it is driven by a desire to plant my seed, do I feel desperate? No, because I know that if it gets unbearable I can say, "**** it" and lose the bet. It is all about self-control, I know my boundaries, and guess what I figure that by the time the next week is over I will be getting action anyways so I am not too choked about it. Not masturbating is good for you, teaches you self control, and helps your desire to approach women.

--Mission

Highrise
05-16-2006, 06:46 PM
When I first got into the game not masturbating helped a lot. I'm not sure whether or was placebo - I had been reading a thread exactly like this one. But the thing is, placebo or not, it did help. It made me feel stronger, it planted the desire to walk over and talk to PEOPLE (not just girls - I think this is key to what I'm getting at) and because of this I was making friends on all fronts. It was probably something to do with being more aggressive. The guys thought I was the man, the girls grooved on it.

Even if you don't think the consensus to not jerk it is a good thing, I also know first hand that jerking KILLS my energy. I lift weights. I jerk it beforehand and I have almost 0 chance of lifting to my maximum. Jerk it every other day or so and you will most probably feel like a zombie day in day out. It's crazy kind of toll jerking takes sometimes. (On a benefit, it's really useful if you can't get to sleep.)

JHeights83rd
05-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Ok from what i read on this site, you guys are coming from the other extreme of wacking off 2 - 3 times a day. Its probably more mental than physcal, youre secretly embarrased about having done it and you wanna stay away from everybody.

originally posted by charm
overgeneralize the "too much semen turns you into a desperate lunatic" concept. That's far from the truth. Self-control is a skill that we must learn and self-mastery is a practice that should consist throughout our lifetime diligently.

You have no idea what its like to be on the other extreme and you probably never will. I never said that it makes you into a desperate lunatic, having more semen makes you want it more. Wanting it more is not good. Let me explain to you how it is being on this side. I have a friend too, he experiences it too. When i get around women my heartrate goes up real high, and i get real horny. This is sexual impulse, you cannot 'self control' impulses. You can 'control it' so that it doesnt lead to actions like rape. This is easy but it takes mind power, and this is not the main problem.

You can control it physically but not subconsciously. Subconsciously, it pushes you to more anxious, clingy, hanging around behavior. It makes you hold convos longer, and more mentally desperate. Thats what i mean. You cannot 'self control' this behavior, because its subconscious. I know the myth that your subconscious doesnt know the difference between fact and fiction. but think about it. if that was true, i could convince myself that im gay, or that i dont like *****. So saying 'self control' for this part is bull****.

The other aspect is that for us, theres no 'speed control' or 'throttle' or 'gas pedal' its more like an 'on/off' switch. aggression off, agression on. Keep your d**k in your pants/put your **** in your hand. Have you ever heard the rule 'put your **** in you pocket'? If you have your **** in your hand trying to get sex from her, it gets in the way of you verbal game. It comes across to the girl as, you really wanna get in her pants. You can easily say 'self control' on all this ****, but in reality, its too much **** to think about at one time, and to still look smooth and composed at the same time.

this is the other extreme of wacking off 4 times a day. Im just explaining it bc im sick of posts saying more testoserone= more confidence, masculinity, and not wacking off at all is ideal, and youll have the most confidence and aggression, which is the best. Im also sick of people in the real world saying 'well you can learn how to control that desire'