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wise_mage
06-17-2003, 01:30 AM
I read this post by j-man and it really made me wonder.
are women into being abused and used and treated like sluts and *****s? do they like this? if so, why do they like it?
do they like the power exherted in a man who only wants to **** her and then dump her? I am very confused.
do women respond better (sexually speaking) to guys who treat them as pieces of meat?

jlujan
06-17-2003, 02:20 AM
No.

Sojourner
06-17-2003, 05:08 AM
I hear the same old tired refrain from women that goes like this:

"It seems that all the men I've gone out with have been abusive jerks. Why can't I find a nice decent man?"

I ask the women "But was the sex great?" Their reply: "Oh, it was super."

When women lament about the above, I think in my mind "Why did you always end up with jerks when you've been seeking nice guys? It's because you were drawn to jerks and attracted by their wild uncontrollableness and excitement. Nice guys don't exude such traits. You would be bored with nice guys and go right back to the exciting jerks. What you really seek is a suave DJ who's midway between a jerk and a nice guy, however, DJs make up a very small percentage of the male population and beside, a DJ would never go for a female who's been fvcked up by abusive jerks. These women have more baggage than a Greygoose bus."

Starman
06-17-2003, 08:05 AM
The only way I could understand this paradox is that women TRY to be rational and go for nice guys .. their faculty of reason tells them "This guy would treat you nice, and you deserve to be treated good"

but something more powerful than reason makes them look the other way..attraction, chemistry, sex drive

Its like you know smoking, drugs, alcohol, excessive sex with multiple partners is BAD for you, Your brain Says NO! but your unexplained primal urges say YES

Its almost as if they have some instinct or part of the brain that over rides reason.

Jay26
06-17-2003, 08:18 AM
Sojourner is rite, you don't have to be a jerk, just be a man and not some ***** whose life is dictated by the whims of women! You gotta be in the drivers seat cos you know what happens when the girl does the driving;) It ain't a fun ride;p

squirrels
06-17-2003, 08:41 AM
The way I see it, women don't want a man who will treat them right.

They want a man who will treat them like they want to be treated. :)

vectorz
06-17-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Sojourner
What you really seek is a suave DJ who's midway between a jerk and a nice guy, however, DJs make up a very small percentage of the male population ...

And the thing you don't realize is that DJ's make up a VERY SMALL percentage of THIS forum also. I'd say there's probably 1 or 2 persons on this forum that could be considered DJ. Unless you're referring to "Dorks and Jack@sses"

matius
06-17-2003, 02:35 PM
DJ Forum, one or two DJ's or 500 DJ's who cares. It takes away from the objective. We're just trying to give each other 411 about what's going down. So go and make fun of the jackasses for trying to learn and change their ways.

Watching porn gives you a <false> impression? Why if you're a nice guy do you never get laid? Because you're not f()cking hard and good? Because you're not treating your woman like a piece of meat? Obviously this is what they want. Not every woman. The hot ones though. You go tell the guy that's being nice and not getting laid that women do not want to be treated like that.

And I don't mean treating her like a piece of shlt...I mean being a man and being bold and forceful in hanging out and in bed. And letting her know you'll slap her ass. That's atleast what it seems to me...What else is there?

Please explain...this is an open-ended statement reflecting not fact nor truth, just an observation.

Starman
06-17-2003, 02:41 PM
I can give 2 squats about who is a true DJ or not..everyone here has something new and interesting to offer..

For every, "Should I wait? Should I call? I just cant seem to talk to girls " post I read..I get more confident and stronger

because thats a reflectation of the way I used to think..and seeing other people do it..just brings to light how ridiculous things are sometimes

Donny Brasco
06-17-2003, 02:58 PM
And the key for us DJ'ers is to draw out those primal urges without crossing the like into "abusive @sshole" territory. Thats the key.

I met and dated some girls that actually needed to be with an abusive man, and no amount of DJing or nice guy or c/f could compensate for their need to be treated like ****. Its sad but true, stay the hell away from these girls.

Ask her if she's ever been slapped or beat up by her boyfriends before, here is some typical answers:

F**ked up Bi***es:

1) Yes, BF #1 and #2 and #3 all beat me up, why do I end up with these abusive guys.

2) Yes BF#1 hit me but he really loved me and I understand I deserved it.

Normal Women:

1) My momma never raised any fools

2) Ya, BF#1 hit me once and thats the last ****ing time I ever saw him

3) Ya, BF#2 tried to hit me once, he gets out of jail in 2013 I think

I went out with a HB three weeks ago, one who seems to always get beat up. I dropped her off at home. That morning she got beat up by her ex, he landed in jail that night and the next week they were back together. Not a bad lay though, but not LTR material for sure. :rolleyes:

wise_mage
06-17-2003, 11:20 PM
yes, but do they like the abuse? no one has answered the question. I wasnt talking about actual fisical abuse or even verbally telling them they are whoes and stuff. I was asking wether they are more attracted to a man who has an attitude that tells them that he only wants them for sex and he thinks they are nothing but pieces of meat?
do they in fact, contrary to everything they say, want to be *****s and sluts and want to get ****ed by guys who have nice bodies and big ****s even if these guys will just use them and dump them? is that what they want? being ****ed and dumped and treated like *****s? do they like guys with this attitude?
the attitude that says "u dumb hot c*nt, Im going to **** you and dump you like the peace of meat you are because u dont have anything else to offer me, stupid b!tch".
guys who act this way even if they dont say it verbally, do they excite women sexually more? is this what they are looking for?
why do women say some guys are losers when they arent popular or dont have girls or try to ask them for dates etc?
also, do they like being called c!itches and *****s?
do they like to feel like sluts and whoes when it comes down to it?
Im really wondering because even though I am a super cool and confident person and most girls respond very well to my prescence and way of being, with the sexual aspect of it I dont have a large success and its still difficult for me to get a date and attract girls in that special way where they get wet thinking about me (but its getting a lot easier every day, especially with the tool known as kino) but I still have a long long way to go. and eventhough I might not entirely fit in the dj definition some of u people here at the site have (girls still say Im "good" and "sweet" and I dont get a lot of action and a few other things, people here have called me an afc, said Im stuck in my RAFC phase, sh!t like that) I am a man who knows what he wants out of life and definitely is working and fighting to get it.

the thing is I really want to have a lot of sex throughout my life.
I want to learn to be really good at it as well. not only do I love womens physique and its a very fun activity, its also great excersise to keep u in shape =)
Im 19 so Im still young enough to make a difference about it eventhough Im still a virgin. I could have lost it at 16 and at 17 but I ****ed up cause at the time I felt like I wasnt ready.
havent gotten any real chances since then actually. I have made out with girls but thats about it.
anyway, I notice all the time like girls in high school and college and up to their mid 30`s like the guys who have fame of f*cking lots of women etc. o them this guys are "winners" and being their sluts is better than being the nice guys (a very vague term) "losers" girlfriend.
so I am in a point where I dont know what to do. should I be myself, the dj that I think I am (eventhough according to what sosuave says, the fact I get called "good" and "sweet" and have lack of success in the getting laid department would porpbably categorize me as an afc) or should I go all the way and become a jerk? some people say Im egocentric as well, though that couldnt be farther from the truth according to myself which ios the only opinion that really counts. should I view girls as pieces of meat and *****s and sluts and not care about who they are as persons and act all suave and charismatic just to get the sex or should I keep listening to girls and being interested in who they are as persons their personalities and what they want out of life (which is not the same as being the shoulder to cry on afc friend)
whiule still applying kino and perhaps makinf fun of them a little in a cocky funny way and still be cool and charismatic eventhoguh I might get labeled as nice and sweet and good because I actually listen to what they have to say and they think care about people and show empathy (and therefore they view me as serious "boring" relaionship material and not wild sex material)?
what to do?

Spread em Gal
06-17-2003, 11:22 PM
Watch Bangbus !

wise_mage
06-17-2003, 11:32 PM
I have watched it but its fake. its not real. believe me on this one.
I discovered this when I saw a girl on one of the bangbus videos i had downloaded , reagan actually works for Cumfiesta, some porn company website. also theres an ad which says so at the site, it says its planned. so bangbus truly offers no ansers at all.
its all a fantasy.

J-Man
06-18-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by wise_mage
so I am in a point where I dont know what to do. should I be myself, the dj that I think I am (eventhough according to what sosuave says, the fact I get called "good" and "sweet" and have lack of success in the getting laid department would porpbably categorize me as an afc) or should I go all the way and become a jerk?

dude, youre asking advice that will affect your ENTIRE life. no one can give it to you. its your call. maybe youll be and afc, maybe a DJ, or maybe a jerk. its all up to you man.

i still havent fully made my choice. i still have to think about things and dwell on my hate a little (hehe).

i guess all im saying is "find out what works for you"

what works for one might not work for another.